Two votes. No Speaker.

So I guess the Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaytz honeymoon is over! :laugh:

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Frank Apisa said:
It is not even capable of ineffective governance.

It operates under the presumption that government IS THE PROBLEM. And it does everything it can to make that so.
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Think Frank....their entire business model both in government and after government is to sell access.....they are not going to kill or even shrink their product....that they for so long got away with the lie that they wanted to speaks to the idiocy of the American people.

Dont be one of the chumps.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
But how do we know that the legacy Republicans (surely there's 12 left) won't just say FUCK IT, and vote for Jeffries?:thinking:
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They would be dead in the House. When your party is in the majority and you elect the other party as Speaker your career is ended.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Of course.

IIRC, your family history was on the "good side" of Boston? Away from all the Micks?
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Growing up, I has to wander outside of my North End neighborhood to encounter Micks, although there's no avoiding them in Boston.
In my present residential neighborhood, too far away from downtown for my liking, I have them next door. Real micks. Cops, firefighters, politicians...the classics.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The irony being I'm not sure Jordan wants the scrutiny. LOL
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He don't! He knows he does not know how to run the house!

It's going to be the toughest job of all times for any Speaker.

First of all, whoever wins is going to have to whore themselves out to the radicals, and it will all be a waste of time, because they look like 16 and that is about it for consensus on anything and everything.

It's not a huge divide, but that is not the only divide. There are so many more divides within the Republican side. They have divides surrounding every issue. For every issue there is a different divide. Let's face it, the new Republican party is all about divisions. They have literally sliced and diced until there is no general consensus on anything any more in the party. They learned how to slice and dice from Donald Trump, and it has become an ideology with them.

Personally, I think they are going to need a psychiatrist on board just to get them through each and every session now in that chamber moving forward!

Maybe all of this will settle down and everyone will kiss and makeup, or make out, or whatever it takes! But it looks like a mess and total dysfunction!

Whoever the gavel holder will be, it will end up sounding like someone is putting a new roof on a house with all the constant hammering going on! "Order! Order in the house"

Remember when we used to laugh about the way they carry on over in the UK in the House Of Commons? Well we finally made it! :laugh:
 
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Dutch Uncle said:
Maybe worse, since it adversely affects their jobs. Elections are every two years; those in office need to perform or face the wrath of voters increasingly disappointed by elected officials not do their fucking jobs.

Just pointing fingers doesn't satisfy an increasingly more sophisticated citizenry.
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They're gonna get wiped out in 2024 in the House, but the problem is the Senate. The Democrats have to defend a ton of Senate seats in the next election, though they will have the headwinds of a Presidential race, which typically favors the incumbents.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
He don't! He knows he does not know how to run the house!

It's going to be the toughest job of all times for any Speaker.

First of all, whoever wins is going to have to whore themselves out to the radicals, and it will all be a waste of time, because they look like 16 and that is about it for consensus on anything and everything.

It's not a huge divide, but that is not the only divide. There are so many more divides within the Republican side. They have divides surrounding every issue. For every issue there is a different divide. Let's face it, the new Republican party is all about divisions. They have literally sliced and diced until there is no general consensus on anything any more in the party. They learned how to slice and dice from Donald Trump, and it has become an ideology with them.

Personally, I think they are going to need a psychiatrist on board just to get them through each and every session now in that chamber moving forward!

Maybe all of this will settle down and everyone will kiss and makeup, or make out, or whatever it takes! But it looks like a mess and total dysfunction!

Whoever the gavel holder will be, it will end up sounding like someone is putting a new roof on a house with all the constant hammering going on! "Order! Order in the house"

Remember when we used to laugh about the way they carry on over in the UK in the House Of Commons? Well we finally made it! :laugh:
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Besides the scrutiny I think Jordan doesn't want his already shitty legacy to become known as Worst Speaker Ever.
 
LV426 said:
They're gonna get wiped out in 2024 in the House, but the problem is the Senate. The Democrats have to defend a ton of Senate seats in the next election, though they will have the headwinds of a Presidential race, which typically favors the incumbents.
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A Blue Tsunami? LOL Doubtful. Look at who is really driving the voting; the Independents. Both parties are better at serving themselves than Americans. While I'll readily agree that the Republicans will probably lose the House in 2024, it's also likely there could become a Republican President for the same reason; to keep the Parties as weak as possible.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
A Blue Tsunami? LOL Doubtful. Look at who is really driving the voting; the Independents. Both parties are better at serving themselves than Americans. While I'll readily agree that the Republicans will probably lose the House in 2024, it's also likely there could become a Republican President for the same reason; to keep the Parties as weak as possible.
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Anyone who votes for a Democratic House but a Republican President isn't interested in maintaining a country or economy, they want permanent dysfunction so they have an excuse to dismantle pluralistic, multi-racial democracy.
 
LV426 said:
Anyone who votes for a Democratic House but a Republican President isn't interested in maintaining a country or economy, they want permanent dysfunction so they have an excuse to dismantle pluralistic, multi-racial democracy.
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Disagreed, LV, but I can see why you want to see it that way since you area far Left Democrat hoping the Republican Party destroys itself leaving only the Democratic Party to rule America. Sorry, dear, but there will always be two parties in the US under the current rules.
 
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