Tesla Model 3 named winner in KBB’s 5-Year Cost to Own Awards 2022. MAGA wets panties

[Into the Night]

Wow, you really are struggling with reading comprehension, son.

I was making the point that, just like all consumers, corporations see the advantage of EVs with their low maintenance, low energy costs and reliability and that's why they are buying them. That's why every year, more and more EVs are being sold. Each year breaks the previous year's sales record.
Why does that trigger you so badly?

Each year, more and more ICE cars are being sold too.

Less than 1% of the cars on the road are EVs.

 

[Into the Night]

Which is deeply disturbing but for now Musk gets as pass for everything because of Twitter. Other companies who do this dont.

Don't like it? Don't buy a Tesla!

 

[RB 60]

IQ60 is lucky the Tesla driver didn't challenge him. His little gas cobra would've been smoked.

Maybe, maybe not. You can't deny the fact that my Cobra will garner far more attention than that Tesla. And, it sounds so much better...

 

[Lionfish]

A Tesla owner shared TikTok videos about the impacts of cold weather on his car showing he can't open the door, the frunk, or even charge it

https://www.tiktok.com/@ddcustomz

 

[Joe Capitalist]

The global oil market remains tight according to Saudi Aramco, the largest oil producer in the world. And that does not bode well for a world that still relies heavily on fossil fuels.
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“Today there is spare capacity that is extremely low,” Saudi Aramco CEO Amin Nasser said at a recent conference in London. “If China opens up, [the] economy starts improving or the aviation industry starts asking for more jet fuel, you will erode this spare capacity.”
Nasser warns that oil prices could quickly spike — again.
“When you erode that spare capacity the world should be worried. There will be no space for any hiccup — any interruption, any unforeseen events anywhere around the world.”

I love my Tesla!

 

[Lionfish]

Now the woke crowd is into "vegan" leather.
Joey's car comes equipped with an interior whose seats will decay if they come in contact with a variety of products like those rare items such as hair spray, sunscreen, or hand sanitizer.


The “vegan leather” for cars was a preannounced fiasco

The first complaints about “bubbles” on Tesla seats come from the Tesla Motors Club blog, where several users have posted photos showing bulges of the “vegan” material on headrests and seats.

"The manufacturer promptly denied any kind of guarantee, declaring that this type of material should be treated with care, avoiding rubbing and contact with products such as hairspray, sunscreen, hand sanitizer, chlorine, and cleaning products".

 

[Joe Capitalist]

Every electric vehicle sold is a win against climate change. And under President Biden’s leadership, electric vehicle sales in the United States have tripled.

I just bought 200 more shares of Te$la this morning.

 

[ExpressLane]

Every electric vehicle sold is a win against climate change. And under President Biden’s leadership, electric vehicle sales in the United States have tripled.

I just bought 200 more shares of Te$la this morning.

How many Uyghurs slaves did China use to make the batteries in your toy ca r. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/22/sig...in-chinas-ev-battery-supply-chain-report.html

Chinese companies that produce raw materials for electric vehicle batteries show signs of using forced labor, according to a report from The New York Times.

How many kids died mining the Lithium and cobalt for your "green car that runs using fossil fuels.

In the case of cobalt, 60% of the world’s supply comes from the Democratic Republic of the Congo where large numbers of unregulated mines use children as young as seven as miners. There they breathe in cobalt-laden dust that can cause fatal lung ailments while working tunnels that are liable to collapse.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...s-the-price-we-could-pay-for-a-greener-future

 

[Joe Capitalist]

See the 8 coolest electric cars hitting streets next year:

https://www.businessinsider.com/evs-electric-cars-coming-in-2023-suv-truck-chevy-tesla-hyundai-2022-12

Hyundai's streamlined Ioniq 6 sedan arrives next spring with a futuristic look and an expansive interior. Hyundai
The flood of cool new electric cars will continue in 2023.
Brands like Tesla, Chevy, Hyundai, and GMC all plan to unleash cutting-edge new models next year.
We'll see pricey pickup trucks, sleek sedans, and sporty SUVs.

Tons of new electric models have exploded onto the scene in recent years — and 2023 will be no different.

Haw, haw..................haw

 

[Joe Capitalist]

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Every electric vehicle sold is a win against climate change. And under President Biden’s leadership, electric vehicle sales in the United States have tripled.

My bet: EV's will have no effect on Gorebal Warming and the radical Left (eg., YOU) will then find some other portion of the market to totally fuck up costing people and society tens of billions and making most people poorer claiming that this time you'll get things right.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Now the woke crowd is into "vegan" leather.
Joey's car comes equipped with an interior whose seats will decay if they come in contact with a variety of products like those rare items such as hair spray, sunscreen, or hand sanitizer.


The “vegan leather” for cars was a preannounced fiasco

The first complaints about “bubbles” on Tesla seats come from the Tesla Motors Club blog, where several users have posted photos showing bulges of the “vegan” material on headrests and seats.

"The manufacturer promptly denied any kind of guarantee, declaring that this type of material should be treated with care, avoiding rubbing and contact with products such as hairspray, sunscreen, hand sanitizer, chlorine, and cleaning products".

What? Pleather wasn't good enough for the idiots on the radical Left pedio-Joe Socialist who couldn't tell the difference if he had two experts point it out?

 

[Joe Capitalist]

My bet: EV's will have no effect on Gorebal Warming and the radical Left (eg., YOU) will then find some other portion of the market to totally fuck up costing people and society tens of billions and making most people poorer claiming that this time you'll get things right.

So you actually think the EV technology will fail. If you really believe that, I suggest you short the stock of every car manufacturer that makes EVs. You'll make a bundle.......IF your whacky premonition actually comes true. <Giggle><Giggle>

 

[T. A. Gardner]

So you actually think the EV technology will fall. If you really believe that, I suggest you short the stock of every car manufacturer that makes EVs. You'll make a bundle.......IF your whacky premonition actually comes true. <Giggle><Giggle>

Let's take away all government support for EV's and see what happens. Do you really believe that people will buy a vehicle that is 20 to 30% more expensive, offers no real advantage in performance, has a lower reliability, and is difficult to recharge over an ICE vehicle?

If states like California weren't mandating by government fiat that you buy one do you really think consumers would by an expensive POS vehicle?

Let's see your delusional response to that.

 

[RB 60]

So you actually think the EV technology will fall. If you really believe that, I suggest you short the stock of every car manufacturer that makes EVs. You'll make a bundle.......IF your whacky premonition actually comes true. <Giggle><Giggle>

I don't think the technology will fail. I think the hassle and cost will fail.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

Let's take away all government support for EV's and see what happens. Do you really believe that people will buy a vehicle that is 20 to 30% more expensive, offers no real advantage in performance, has a lower reliability, and is difficult to recharge over an ICE vehicle?

If states like California weren't mandating by government fiat that you buy one do you really think consumers would by an expensive POS vehicle?

Let's see your delusional response to that.

I got zero government rebate when I bought my Tesla Model Y DMLR. Zero federal or state rebate. There's a reason people are buying up EV cars like crazy. And it's not because governments are forcing them to. It's because they have better reliability, better performance, they're easier to maintain, cheaper to run and can be charged in your garage.
But you go ahead and swallow the stale, old right-wing sound bytes if it helps you sleep at night.

I'm guessing you hate EVs because you can't afford one. I feel sorry for you.



Eh, no i don't.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I got zero government rebate when I bought my Tesla Model Y DMLR. Zero federal or state rebate. There's a reason people are buying up EV cars like crazy. And it's not because governments are forcing them to. It's because they have better reliability, better performance, they're easier to maintain, cheaper to run and can be charged in your garage.
But you go ahead and swallow the stale, old right-wing sound bytes if it helps you sleep at night.

I'm guessing you hate EVs because you can't afford one. I feel sorry for you.

Eh, no i don't.

Really? The Tesla Model Y that you bought is rated across the industry as the least reliable, worst built car in America today.

Consumer Reports: Lexus has most reliable car of 2022, Tesla has 'problems'
https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...ts-most-reliable-cars-trucks-suvs/6385214001/

Telsa vehicles are not very reliable. In fact, Tesla ranks at the bottom in most categories when it comes to reliability. This is mainly because of their poor-quality rating
https://luxurycarsa2z.com/is-tesla-a-reliable-car/

Electric-vehicle maker Tesla, which is now worth more than $1 trillion, ranked 27th out of the 28 brands Consumer Reports considered this year
https://news.yahoo.com/tesla-makes-least-reliable-cars-133500819.html

Tesla was both the least reliable but most popular EV brand in a survey of owners that found one in three of all EVs had major issues in the past year
https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-least-reliable-ev-brand-uk-survey-2022-3

So, I guess you are one of those ignorant fools that loves EV's despite their unreliability and high maintenance costs...

I can afford one, and even pay cash for one, but I'm not buying an unreliable POS. Also I drive a truck because I use a truck and the only current options in EV are the outrageously expensive F 150 Lighting that has very mixed reviews and the Rivian that is another unreliable POS subject to frequent manufacturer recalls.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

Really? The Tesla Model Y that you bought is rated across the industry as the least reliable, worst built car in America today.

Consumer Reports: Lexus has most reliable car of 2022, Tesla has 'problems'
https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...ts-most-reliable-cars-trucks-suvs/6385214001/

Telsa vehicles are not very reliable. In fact, Tesla ranks at the bottom in most categories when it comes to reliability. This is mainly because of their poor-quality rating
https://luxurycarsa2z.com/is-tesla-a-reliable-car/

Electric-vehicle maker Tesla, which is now worth more than $1 trillion, ranked 27th out of the 28 brands Consumer Reports considered this year
https://news.yahoo.com/tesla-makes-least-reliable-cars-133500819.html

Tesla was both the least reliable but most popular EV brand in a survey of owners that found one in three of all EVs had major issues in the past year
https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-least-reliable-ev-brand-uk-survey-2022-3

So, I guess you are one of those ignorant fools that loves EV's despite their unreliability and high maintenance costs...

I can afford one, and even pay cash for one, but I'm not buying an unreliable POS. Also I drive a truck because I use a truck and the only current options in EV are the outrageously expensive F 150 Lighting that has very mixed reviews and the Rivian that is another unreliable POS subject to frequent manufacturer recalls.

I know all about their body quality issues. Most have been resolved. Mine had none. I've owed my Tesla for two years. No problems. No oil changes, No radiator fluid. No Auto Trans fluid. I've spent $0 (that's zero dollars on maintenance. ZERO! ZILCH! NADA! Comprende?
It's the best car I've ever owned. So take your surveys and shove them up your fat Trump.

CARS Record EV Sales Month Globally! 12% Share For BEVs!

Yep, the EV disruption many of us were dreaming of for years is finally happening, and the proof is that despite all the stuff happening right now — pandemic(s), war, inflation, material shortages, etc., etc. — global plugin vehicle registrations were up 54% in June 2022 compared to June 2021, reaching a record 913,000 units! With China’s production back on track, sales have recovered their previous growth pace, and I wouldn’t be surprised if September turns out to be the first month the world reaches one million plugin vehicle registrations! With China (surely), Europe (likely), and the USA (maybe?) posting record months in September, expect the end of Q3 to be another time of celebration.

With a record month in June, plugins represented 16% share of the overall auto market, with BEVs themselves reaching 12% BEV share! This is the first time BEVs reached two digits globally. Considering the steep drops in the overall market, and that plugless hybrids (HEVs) were down for the third month in a row, that should be considered an amazing result. Peak HEVs is upon us in 2022, with 2023 being the start of downhill sales for this kind of powertrain.

In June, BEVs (+65% YoY) grew faster than PHEVs (+29%), with the latter powertrain suffering from sales drops in Europe. Still, both technologies reached record months and, year to date.

Sorry to trigger you:

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I know all about their body quality issues. Most have been resolved. Mine had none. I've owed my Tesla for two years. No problems. No oil changes, No radiator fluid. No Auto Trans fluid. I've spent $0 (that's zero dollars on maintenance. ZERO! ZILCH! NADA! Comprende?
It's the best car I've ever owned. So take your surveys and shove them up your fat Trump.

CARS Record EV Sales Month Globally! 12% Share For BEVs!

Yep, the EV disruption many of us were dreaming of for years is finally happening, and the proof is that despite all the stuff happening right now — pandemic(s), war, inflation, material shortages, etc., etc. — global plugin vehicle registrations were up 54% in June 2022 compared to June 2021, reaching a record 913,000 units! With China’s production back on track, sales have recovered their previous growth pace, and I wouldn’t be surprised if September turns out to be the first month the world reaches one million plugin vehicle registrations! With China (surely), Europe (likely), and the USA (maybe?) posting record months in September, expect the end of Q3 to be another time of celebration.

With a record month in June, plugins represented 16% share of the overall auto market, with BEVs themselves reaching 12% BEV share! This is the first time BEVs reached two digits globally. Considering the steep drops in the overall market, and that plugless hybrids (HEVs) were down for the third month in a row, that should be considered an amazing result. Peak HEVs is upon us in 2022, with 2023 being the start of downhill sales for this kind of powertrain.

In June, BEVs (+65% YoY) grew faster than PHEVs (+29%), with the latter powertrain suffering from sales drops in Europe. Still, both technologies reached record months and, year to date.

Sorry to trigger you:

Now, that's a strawman argument! Way to change the subject. But, to demolish your argument, that rise in sales is due to government intervention in the market. We've been over that, and you have tried to ignore that point because it demolishes your argument entirely.

 

[ExpressLane]

I know all about their body quality issues. Most have been resolved. Mine had none. I've owed my Tesla for two years. No problems. No oil changes, No radiator fluid. No Auto Trans fluid. I've spent $0 (that's zero dollars on maintenance. ZERO! ZILCH! NADA! Comprende?
It's the best car I've ever owned. So take your surveys and shove them up your fat Trump.

CARS Record EV Sales Month Globally! 12% Share For BEVs!

Yep, the EV disruption many of us were dreaming of for years is finally happening, and the proof is that despite all the stuff happening right now — pandemic(s), war, inflation, material shortages, etc., etc. — global plugin vehicle registrations were up 54% in June 2022 compared to June 2021, reaching a record 913,000 units! With China’s production back on track, sales have recovered their previous growth pace, and I wouldn’t be surprised if September turns out to be the first month the world reaches one million plugin vehicle registrations! With China (surely), Europe (likely), and the USA (maybe?) posting record months in September, expect the end of Q3 to be another time of celebration.

With a record month in June, plugins represented 16% share of the overall auto market, with BEVs themselves reaching 12% BEV share! This is the first time BEVs reached two digits globally. Considering the steep drops in the overall market, and that plugless hybrids (HEVs) were down for the third month in a row, that should be considered an amazing result. Peak HEVs is upon us in 2022, with 2023 being the start of downhill sales for this kind of powertrain.

In June, BEVs (+65% YoY) grew faster than PHEVs (+29%), with the latter powertrain suffering from sales drops in Europe. Still, both technologies reached record months and, year to date.

Sorry to trigger you:

They are going to need more Chinese slaves

Lithium giant’s link to slave labour region puts Tesla in spotlight


They are going to need more 6 year olds to mine the Cobalt for your toy battery powered car.

Small-scale mining in the DRC involves people of all ages, including children, obligated to work under harsh conditions. Of the 255,000 Congolese mining for cobalt, 40,000 are children, some as young as six years. Much of the work is informal small-scale mining in which laborers earn less than $2 per day while using their own tools, primarily their hands.



And your toy car still runs on 61% fossil fuel.