Zelensky; ' Russians must withdraw'... ' Russia;.. ' He must accept new realities' .

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Russia rejects Zelenskiy’s peace proposal, says Ukraine must accept new ‘realities’
Ukraine must take into account the new territorial “realities” that include Russia’s annexation of four Ukrainian regions, the Kremlin has said in response to Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s three-step proposal for peace.

In a statement to G7 countries yesterday, the Ukrainian leader said Russia could begin to withdraw its troops from the territory of Ukraine to show they are capable of abandoning their aggression.

Zelenskiy told G7 leaders he was offering Moscow an “opportunity to make a real, meaningful step towards diplomatic settlement” of the conflict.

He said:

The holidays are ahead, celebrated by billions of people around the world: Christmas of the Gregorian calendar, New Year, Christmas of the Julian calendar. This is the time when normal people think about peace, not about aggression. I offer Russia the opportunity to at least try to demonstrate that they can abandon the way of aggression. It would be right to start withdrawing Russian troops from internationally recognised borders of Ukraine this Christmas. If Russia withdraws its troops from Ukraine, it will ensure a lasting cessation of hostilities.

Russia does not have full control of any of the four provinces of Ukraine it says it annexed in September, but which most UN member countries have condemned as illegal.

In response, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said Ukraine needed to accept new territorial “realities”, including that the Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk and Luhansk provinces of Ukraine were Russia’s “new subjects”.

Asked about the proposed Russian troop withdrawal, Peskov said:

The Ukrainian side needs to take into account the realities that have developed during this time. And these realities indicate that new subjects have appeared in the Russian Federation. They appeared as a result of referendums that took place in these territories. Without taking these new realities into account, no kind of progress is possible.

There could be “no question” of Moscow beginning to pull out its troops by the end of the year, he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...ks-hungary-stalemate-to-approve-18bn-aid-plan

Zelensky wants another billion dollars. The US national debt is 32 trillion dollars. At what point does the US spend at home, for Americans ?

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The point is that helping Ukraine is helping America. Russia has always been an expansionist country that sees America as an enemy. They ar constantly trying to hurt us. Helping Ukraine benefits America and Europe. It is pro-democracy.
 
The point is that helping Ukraine is helping America. Russia has always been an expansionist country that sees America as an enemy. They ar constantly trying to hurt us. Helping Ukraine benefits America and Europe. It is pro-democracy.
US/NATO is hurting from paying for the war machine. 70% of the Ukraine military has been injured or killed. Mercenaries have taken control of Ukraine. Neocons have always wanted global dominance; Biden is their boy.
 
The point is that helping Ukraine is helping America.

I can't see the 47 million Americans living in poverty agreeing with you. I can't see that war with Russia helps America- as America could never win it.
Sure, destroying the Nord Stream pipeline has profited US fossil fuel magnates- but not Americans. It has also certainly not helped European allies.

Russia has always been an expansionist country that sees America as an enemy.

Nah, they were WW2 allies and took the brunt of the German aggression. Many thousands of Americans were spared death in Europe.

They ar constantly trying to hurt us. Helping Ukraine benefits America and Europe. It is pro-democracy.

Nah, they retaliate. The US is the aggressor. This war does not benefit Ukraine. Over half of it is destroyed. How do you justify destroying Ukraine to ' help America' ?

Democracy ain't what it used to be.
 
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