Air Force unveils B-21 Raider stealth bomber

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The U.S. military will unveil the U.S. Air Force B-21 Raider on Friday in Palmdale, California.

The B-21 Raider is the first new American bomber aircraft in more than three decades and almost every aspect of the program is classified, with artist renderings showing that it resembles the B-2 Spirit.

Manufacturer Northrop Grumman said that the rollout of the newest nuclear stealth bomber marked the first time the world’s first sixth-generation aircraft will be seen by the public.

"When delivered to the Air Force, the B-21 will join the nation’s strategic triad as a visible and flexible deterrent; supporting national security objectives and assuring the nation’s allies and partners," the company said in a release.

The nuclear triad includes silo-launched nuclear ballistic missiles and submarine-launched warheads.

Northrop Grumman CEO Kathy Warden told The Associated Press the way the B-21 operates is extremely advanced.

The company said it is optimized for the high-end threat environment, using agile software development, advanced manufacturing techniques, digital engineering tools and cloud technology.

Northrop Grumman said it is continuously working to ensure that the B-21 "will defeat the anti-access, area-denial systems it will face."

Warden could not discuss the specifics of those technologies but said that the bomber will be more stealthy and slightly smaller than the B-2.

"When we talk about low observability, it is incredibly low observability," she said. "You’ll hear it, but you really won’t see it."


Other changes likely include advanced materials used in coatings to make the bomber harder to detect, new ways to control electronic emissions and the use of new propulsion technologies, per several defense analysts.


While six of the B-21 Raiders are currently in production, the Air Force plans to build 100 that can be used with or without a human crew.


https://www.foxnews.com/tech/air-force-unveils-b-21-raider-stealth-bomber

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Looks like the days of human piloted planes are starting to come to an end.
 
What the world needs is bombers.



Haw, haw.......................................haw.
 
ExpressLane said:
The U.S. military will unveil the U.S. Air Force B-21 Raider on Friday in Palmdale, California.

The B-21 Raider is the first new American bomber aircraft in more than three decades and almost every aspect of the program is classified, with artist renderings showing that it resembles the B-2 Spirit.

Manufacturer Northrop Grumman said that the rollout of the newest nuclear stealth bomber marked the first time the world’s first sixth-generation aircraft will be seen by the public.

"When delivered to the Air Force, the B-21 will join the nation’s strategic triad as a visible and flexible deterrent; supporting national security objectives and assuring the nation’s allies and partners," the company said in a release.

The nuclear triad includes silo-launched nuclear ballistic missiles and submarine-launched warheads.

Northrop Grumman CEO Kathy Warden told The Associated Press the way the B-21 operates is extremely advanced.

The company said it is optimized for the high-end threat environment, using agile software development, advanced manufacturing techniques, digital engineering tools and cloud technology.

Northrop Grumman said it is continuously working to ensure that the B-21 "will defeat the anti-access, area-denial systems it will face."

Warden could not discuss the specifics of those technologies but said that the bomber will be more stealthy and slightly smaller than the B-2.

"When we talk about low observability, it is incredibly low observability," she said. "You’ll hear it, but you really won’t see it."


Other changes likely include advanced materials used in coatings to make the bomber harder to detect, new ways to control electronic emissions and the use of new propulsion technologies, per several defense analysts.


While six of the B-21 Raiders are currently in production, the Air Force plans to build 100 that can be used with or without a human crew.


https://www.foxnews.com/tech/air-force-unveils-b-21-raider-stealth-bomber

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Looks like the days of human piloted planes are starting to come to an end.
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Waste of money...even if it works as advertised.

And I almost guarantee that no where near 100 of them will be built.

132 B-2's were supposed to be built.
They only built 21.
Which sent the cost-per-airframe SKYROCKETING as the development costs had to be spread over less aircraft.


America does NOT need a new, strategic bomber.
 
McRocket said:
Waste of money...even if it works as advertised.

And I almost guarantee that no where near 100 of them will be built.

132 B-2's were supposed to be built.
They only built 21.
Which sent the cost-per-airframe SKYROCKETING as the development costs had to be spread over less aircraft.


America does NOT need a new, strategic bomber.
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The B-52s cant fly forever.
 
McRocket said:
Waste of money...even if it works as advertised.

And I almost guarantee that no where near 100 of them will be built.

132 B-2's were supposed to be built.
They only built 21.
Which sent the cost-per-airframe SKYROCKETING as the development costs had to be spread over less aircraft.


America does NOT need a new, strategic bomber.
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Yes we do. They learn what can be made better from the B 2 so they started working on the B 21 and used the 20 or so B 2s as an interim stop gap measure.
 
I'm still trying to get my head around a nuclear airplane.
If it can stay aloft for extended periods of time that's awesome.
If it powers high powered lasers, even better.
Hope they have some ready to roll off the assembly line soon since Biden is hell bent for WWIII.
We're going to need them.
 
ExpressLane said:
Yes we do. They learn what can be made better from the B 2 so they started working on the B 21 and used the 20 or so B 2s as an interim stop gap measure.
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Oh, come on, now!?!
So...according to you?

The B-2 was developed...starting in the 1970's?
During the Cold War?
For NO OTHER REASON but as a 'stop gap measure'?
For it's replacement to be fielded 45 years later?
LONG after the Cold War was over?

Are you seriously standing behind that?
 
ExpressLane said:
The U.S. military will unveil the U.S. Air Force B-21 Raider on Friday in Palmdale, California.

The B-21 Raider is the first new American bomber aircraft in more than three decades and almost every aspect of the program is classified, with artist renderings showing that it resembles the B-2 Spirit.

Manufacturer Northrop Grumman said that the rollout of the newest nuclear stealth bomber marked the first time the world’s first sixth-generation aircraft will be seen by the public.

"When delivered to the Air Force, the B-21 will join the nation’s strategic triad as a visible and flexible deterrent; supporting national security objectives and assuring the nation’s allies and partners," the company said in a release.

The nuclear triad includes silo-launched nuclear ballistic missiles and submarine-launched warheads.

Northrop Grumman CEO Kathy Warden told The Associated Press the way the B-21 operates is extremely advanced.

The company said it is optimized for the high-end threat environment, using agile software development, advanced manufacturing techniques, digital engineering tools and cloud technology.

Northrop Grumman said it is continuously working to ensure that the B-21 "will defeat the anti-access, area-denial systems it will face."

Warden could not discuss the specifics of those technologies but said that the bomber will be more stealthy and slightly smaller than the B-2.

"When we talk about low observability, it is incredibly low observability," she said. "You’ll hear it, but you really won’t see it."


Other changes likely include advanced materials used in coatings to make the bomber harder to detect, new ways to control electronic emissions and the use of new propulsion technologies, per several defense analysts.


While six of the B-21 Raiders are currently in production, the Air Force plans to build 100 that can be used with or without a human crew.


https://www.foxnews.com/tech/air-force-unveils-b-21-raider-stealth-bomber

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Looks like the days of human piloted planes are starting to come to an end.
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There will be drones but also autonomous aircraft with a human pilot option. There are a lot of things a computer can do better than people, but it's all numbers and mechanical. Human intelligence is still required somewhere along the line.

Most human concerns about artificial intelligence are projections of concerns about human intelligence, which has a very large mix of selfish (emotional) motivations. Ergo, stories like Colossus: the Forbin Project and Skynet.

Another projection is that their Gods have human emotions, when it's more logical that they be completely emotionless. Like a machine. LOL

Regardless, wars will continue to be less destructive in human casualties, the Ukraine War being an exceptional exception. More machines will be used. Instead of bombing villages, tech has allowed honest people to defend themselves against murderous terrorists with a single strike on an automobile. I expect targeting a single person with a smart bullet will be in our near future. All done with a human being on the other end...and on WiFi.

Good job tech billionaires! :thup:

Killing bad people is fine with me, but I expect there to be both state and international agreement on the necessity of such actions.

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Dutch Uncle said:
There will be drones but also autonomous aircraft with a human pilot option. There are a lot of things a computer can do better than people, but it's all numbers and mechanical. Human intelligence is still required somewhere along the line.

Most human concerns about artificial intelligence are projections of concerns about human intelligence, which has a very large mix of selfish (emotional) motivations. Ergo, stories like Colossus: the Forbin Project and Skynet.

Another projection is that their Gods have human emotions, when it's more logical that they be completely emotionless. Like a machine. LOL

Regardless, wars will continue to be less destructive in human casualties, the Ukraine War being an exceptional exception. More machines will be used. Instead of bombing villages, tech has allowed honest people to defend themselves against murderous terrorists with a single strike on an automobile. I expect targeting a single person with a smart bullet will be in our near future. All done with a human being on the other end...and on WiFi.

Good job tech billionaires! :thup:

Killing bad people is fine with me, but I expect there to be both state and international agreement on the necessity of such actions.
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I think we will always have the ability for human pilots. To much risk for hacking for giving away total control to computers.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
There will be drones but also autonomous aircraft with a human pilot option. There are a lot of things a computer can do better than people, but it's all numbers and mechanical. Human intelligence is still required somewhere along the line.

Most human concerns about artificial intelligence are projections of concerns about human intelligence, which has a very large mix of selfish (emotional) motivations. Ergo, stories like Colossus: the Forbin Project and Skynet.

Another projection is that their Gods have human emotions, when it's more logical that they be completely emotionless. Like a machine. LOL

Regardless, wars will continue to be less destructive in human casualties, the Ukraine War being an exceptional exception. More machines will be used. Instead of bombing villages, tech has allowed honest people to defend themselves against murderous terrorists with a single strike on an automobile. I expect targeting a single person with a smart bullet will be in our near future. All done with a human being on the other end...and on WiFi.

Good job tech billionaires! :thup:

Killing bad people is fine with me, but I expect there to be both state and international agreement on the necessity of such actions.

qijaScX.jpg
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The new rifle that the army is going to has a pretty amazing scope.
 
ExpressLane said:
I think we will always have the ability for human pilots. To much risk for hacking for giving away total control to computers.
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Hacking can be controlled, especially if primary functions are fire-walled internally*. The main issue being inability to adapt to a fluid situation.

A bomber as capable as the B-21 would be substantially reduced in size upon removal of all human presence, except for an emergency level single human control seat designed for optional use.

The size could also be substantially reduced by weapon-size reduction.

Not a rocket scientist nor an aeronautical engineer, but that's what the math seems to say: https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/VirtualAero/BottleRocket/airplane/ldrat.html
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*target and detonation orders.
 
ExpressLane said:
The new rifle that the army is going to has a pretty amazing scope.
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More efficiency is good. Reliability is a given. Something the Russian Army is having issues with in current events.

Their problem is the opposite of modern Western forces. Ill trained, ill led, ill equipped and ill supported. Western supply to a motivated home defense force is kicking the shit out of the Russian Army.

Sniping with a single shot over 1000 yards or more is much more efficient than wiping out an entire platoon to kill the leader.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The B-52s cant fly forever.
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No.
And neither can the Bone's (B-1).

These B-21 bombers will probably end up costing over $2 billion a pop...at least (the B-2's cost a billion a pop, 20+ years ago).
That is ridiculous.

There is NO need for mega-expensive, manned bombers.
They are Cold War dinosaurs.

And the nuclear triad is NOTHING but the Air Force, desperate to feel relevant.
Outside of turning keys for ICBM's.

The Air Force should get a replacement for Minuteman III's (which they are).
And the Navy keep their boomers.
And that is ALL that is needed.

Especially with America not even able to post consecutive, GDP growth over 3% per FY in 15+ years.
Whilst running a $31 trillion national debt.
And gigantic, fiscal deficits.

America is a MESS.
The LAST thing she needs is hyper-expensive, manned bombers to replace the absolutely fine, B-2's.


If you or anyone else disagrees with that assessment?
You/they are wrong.
 
McRocket said:
No.
And neither can the Bone's (B-1).

These B-21 bombers will probably end up costing over $2 billion a pop...at least (the B-2's cost a billion a pop, 20+ years ago).
That is ridiculous.

There is NO need for mega-expensive, manned bombers.

And the nuclear triad is NOTHING but the Air Force, desperate to feel relevant.
Outside of turning keys for ICBM's.

The Air Force should get a replacement for Minuteman III's (which they are).
And the Navy keep their boomers.
And that is ALL that is needed.

Especially with America not even able to post consecutive GDP growth FY's in 15+ years.
Whilst running a $31 trillion national debt.
And gigantic fiscal deficits.

America is a MESS.

The LAST thing we need is hyper-expensive, manned bombers to replace the absolutely fine B-2's.


If you or anyone else disagrees with that assessment?
You/they are wrong.
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America builds very expensive, very slowly, and increasingly poorly.

We will be sure losers to the Chinese, who perform better.
 
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