Russian armor closes in on ' fortress ' Kyiv.

Cypress said:
The EU and NATO are providing Ukraine substantial amounts of economic and military assistance.

I have never seen NATO so united in my adult life.

We are not going to live in a world where powerful nations can take territory from their neighbors by military force. That makes it the business of the United States.
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Agreed. Despite the best efforts of Putin and Trump, NATO has grown stronger from their actions.
 
Cypress said:
Afghanistan was legal on the basis of intentional law's recognition of self defense. The people who attacked us were in Afghanistan.
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Total horseshit.

Kosovo was a humanitarian mission to help Muslims who had been victims of ethnic cleansing, but I always knew you didn't actually support Muslims.
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' Humanitarian missions ' have to be legal.

We dealt with the Iraq fiasco internally by electing the anti-Iraw war candidate Barack Obama, and by shaming war supporters into silence. Trump had to pretend he was against the Iraq War and conservatives on JPP are totally reticent to even admit they supported the Iraq war
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It was illegal. NATO stinks. You're so full of horseshit you must have an empty horse.



Haw, haw..........................haw.
 
dukkha said:
Zelensky was fine at first. helped put up a good resistance
But the cost of resistance as well is utter ruination and Russia just pounding and killing -

he should be mentioning peace terms for th sake of the country
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Look, MAGAs can crawl on their hands and knees to submit to an invader if we are ever attacked.

Don't expect Ukranians to do it.

I never thought the Ukrainians would meekly submit and surrender. They have a long history of being able to take a body blow to defend their home turf.

You are projecting a MAGA mentality onto the Ukrainians. They have spent 800 years fighting Mongols, Poles, Swedes, Germans, Turks, and they have a type of fighting spirit, resilience, and tenacity that MAGA lacks.
 
Cypress said:
Look, MAGAs can crawl on their hands and knees to submit to an invader if we are ever attacked.

Don't expect Ukranians to do it.

I never thought the Ukrainians would meekly submit and surrender. They have a long history of being able to take a body blow to defend their home turf.

You are projecting a MAGA mentality onto the Ukrainians. They have spent 800 years fighting Mongols, Poles, Swedes, Germans, Turks, and they have a type of fighting spirit, resilience, and tenacity that MAGA lacks.
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peace talks are not surrender. your thinking is binary and rigid
 
dukkha said:
peace talks are not surrender. your thinking is binary and rigid
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In the view of the Ukrainian government, nothing Putin says can be trusted, and the Russians only want a ceasefire to regroup and reorganize for a new offensive. There is nothing Putin has said that indicates he has given up his dream of folding Ukraine into a greater holy Russia .


Zelenskyy seemingly believes the best way to convince the Kremlin to grudgingly accept that Ukraine is an independent country with a right to sovereignty is to annihilate as much of the Russian armed forces as possible.
 
Stone said:
Ukraine has been a money laundering scam going back to the Days Obama and Joe. Its no coincidence that Joes fuckhead son was given a no show job at UKRAINE BASED Burisma bank. Those Khazars are some slippery MO FO's. :)
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Burisma was an energy company. Hunter is well-educated and an experienced lobbyist. He also has high-up connections. I see why they wanted him.
 
Cypress said:
Afghanistan was legal on the basis of intentional law's recognition of self defense. The people who attacked us were in Afghanistan.

Kosovo was a humanitarian mission to help Muslims who had been victims of ethnic cleansing, but I always knew you didn't actually support Muslims.

We dealt with the Iraq fiasco internally by electing the anti-Iraw war candidate Barack Obama, and by shaming war supporters into silence. Trump had to pretend he was against the Iraq War and conservatives on JPP are totally reticent to even admit they supported the Iraq war
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Holy shit are you dumber than fuck. A democrat of course.
 
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