Tesla Semi-truck stops would consume the electricity of a small town

T. A. Gardner said:
It also makes long-haul, team, trucking impossible to do. Totally impossible to do.

Long-haul, team truckers operate in twos or threes. They have trucks with larger fuel tanks installed along with the camper cab. What they do is one driver drives to their legal hour limit, then the next takes over while the one coming off shift relaxes and sleeps. They drive continuously without stopping. A common long-haul route is ports in LA California to ports in Jacksonville Florida LAX-JAX. They drive the entire distance in roughly two days. Take a day off while loading, then do the reverse route. Many teams are husband - wife and they own the truck they're using.

You cannot do that in a battery powered truck.

https://www.lily.com/team-drivers/t...roblem-solving, and working as part of a team.
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It makes short haul trucking impractical as well. Short haul trucks typically travel more than 250 miles in a single day. There is no time to recharge them.
 
AProudLefty said:
Again, I am trying to explain to you that Primavera omitted a fact and wanted you to believe that will strain the grid immediately next month. The fact of the matter is that the company warned about the increasing strain up to 2035, unless the grilds are being upgraded, which they will be.
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Yes I read what you typed. Trouble is I did not assume Elon was going to roll out a million semis on 12/1. That is an assumption you made, not PV.

The fact is, as bad as the car charging situation is, truck charging is far worse.

Power supply to the average urban/suburban neighborhood cannot satisfy the majority of all those homes having electric cars.

People need to be aware of the simple calculus involved with battery operated vehicles.
 
Celticguy said:
Yes I read what you typed. Trouble is I did not assume Elon was going to roll out a million semis on 12/1. That is an assumption you made, not PV.

The fact is, as bad as the car charging situation is, truck charging is far worse.

Power supply to the average urban/suburban neighborhood cannot satisfy the majority of all those homes having electric cars.

People need to be aware of the simple calculus involved with battery operated vehicles.
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Why did you mention Elon Musk?
 
Celticguy said:
It has EVERYTHING to do with YOUR response to the OP. Not surprising you can't seem to grasp this.
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It seems that Elon Musk is your idol right now.

Anyway, this here is a very relevant part in the OP:

A utility company has run the numbers and warns that the US grid can't provide the charging power for all the upcoming electric trucks like the Tesla Semi that will be released on December 1. The electrification of a typical gas station would demand the amount needed for a sports stadium, while a regular truck stop would need the electricity of a small town.

This is just a beginning. Do you see Elon Musk mentioned anywhere?

If you want me to keep educating you further, don't be afraid to ask me.
 
Primavera said:
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This ought not to come as a surprise to anyone conversant with the technology.

Tesla Semi truck stops would consume the electricity of small town USA as launch event scheduled for December 1

A utility company has run the numbers and warns that the US grid can't provide the charging power for all the upcoming electric trucks like the Tesla Semi that will be released on December 1. The electrification of a typical gas station would demand the amount needed for a sports stadium, while a regular truck stop would need the electricity of a small town.

A surge in EV charging demand, especially of the megawatt kind required for electric trucks like the Tesla Semi, would overwhelm the US grid, warns utility company National Grid Plc. Their numbers show that the electrification of just one regular gas station would put a strain on the grid equivalent to that of a sports stadium in 2030.

A common truck stop full of Tesla Semis or similar electric rigs, on the other hand, will have the electricity consumption of a small US town by 2035, while a highway plaza electric truck and car stop will need the power of an industrial plant by 2045.

The issue is not with the amount needed, as even in the worst-case scenario with rapid passenger and freight vehicle electrification, the global electricity demand would only be up 15% by 2040, but rather the speed and output that the charge needs to be delivered with.

The Tesla Semi has a 82,000 lbs (37,195 kg) Gross Weight which it can truck along for up to 500 miles (804 km) on a charge, and its up to 1MWh battery estimate can recover 70% of its capacity in 30 minutes of charging. Tesla wants to solve the grid load problem by topping up the Semi at exclusive Megacharger stations that will be powered by solar energy. One such Megacharger, for instance, is built at the Modesto factory of the Semi's first customer - Pepsi - and Tesla will be holding a dedicated launch event to celebrate the first Semi truck deliveries there on December 1.

Just like its Superchargers and newfangled North American Charging Standard, though, Tesla's Semi truck Megachargers will also have a competitor in the face of the 3.75MW Megawatt Charging Standard (MCS) for heavy-duty electric vehicles whose documentation is expected to be codified by the respective certification bodies in 2024.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla...-event-scheduled-for-December-1.668564.0.html
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Untrue.
 
AProudLefty said:
Again, I am trying to explain to you that Primavera omitted a fact and wanted you to believe that will strain the grid immediately next month. The fact of the matter is that the company warned about the increasing strain up to 2035, unless the grilds are being upgraded, which they will be.
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You are beneath contempt, I can read apparently you can't.
 
AProudLefty said:
It seems that Elon Musk is your idol right now.

Anyway, this here is a very relevant part in the OP:

A utility company has run the numbers and warns that the US grid can't provide the charging power for all the upcoming electric trucks like the Tesla Semi that will be released on December 1. The electrification of a typical gas station would demand the amount needed for a sports stadium, while a regular truck stop would need the electricity of a small town.

This is just a beginning. Do you see Elon Musk mentioned anywhere?

If you want me to keep educating you further, don't be afraid to ask me.
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Elon Musk made the market for battery cars, its hard to ignore him. So naturally you attempt to do just that. And he's the one introducing the beatery semi. No one else applies.
 
Celticguy said:
Elon Musk made the market for battery cars, its hard to ignore him. So naturally you attempt to do just that. And he's the one introducing the beatery semi. No one else applies.
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No clue why you keep bringing up Mr. Musk who has nothing to do with this thread. From now on I am going to ignore you until you address the OP.
 
AProudLefty said:
No clue why you keep bringing up Mr. Musk who has nothing to do with this thread. From now on I am going to ignore you until you address the OP.
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Tesla is introducing the truck which this thread is based upon. Just because he is no longer cool does not change the fact that he IS why there are EVs. If you could set aside being petty you would know this.
 
Celticguy said:
Tesla is introducing the truck which this thread is based upon. Just because he is no longer cool does not change the fact that he IS why there are EVs. If you could set aside being petty you would know this.
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Okay so Tesla is introducing the trucks. Now explain how does that address the topic.
 
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