We have reached the one step forward point!

If the government passes policies the voters want, they are also playing the parties for suckers. Give me what I want and I will vote for you.

It’s the politicians job to do what the voters want.
 
It’s the politicians job to do what the voters want.

Not according to James Madison who wrote the Constitution. He says their job is to do what is in the best interest of the country.

In reality, members of Congress can't really know what their constituents want.
 
Not according to James Madison who wrote the Constitution. He says their job is to do what is in the best interest of the country.

In reality, members of Congress can't really know what their constituents want.

The voters are supposed to vote for what’s in the best interest of the country.
 
We have a regressive party and a progressive party. Currently, the regressive party is called the Republicans and the progressive party is called the Democrats.

What happens in American politics is that the Democrats push forward, once we get about two or three steps worth of progress, the Republicans dig in and throw a huge fit. They throw this huge fit until they lose badly. Then they usually take a reluctant one step forward, in order to remain relevant.

We are now at the one step forward point of progress. Soon the Democrats will take the opportunity to move forward two steps.

The first thing that popped into my head is “was that idiot thinking about the Great Leap Forward?” You might want to rephrase that, comrade jar jar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

That didn’t turn out well for your comrades in china. It’s like STY said, when your steps take you closer to going over a cliff, maybe you should stop and recalculate your route.

And the GOP is not “the regressive party”. I prefer to think of them as the “reality based stability party”, and you guys are like the 6th grade student government. You promise more recess and free ice cream at lunch if the kids will vote for you, but you’re not in any position to deliver either.
 
You only consider it "the Left" compared to the regressive ideology and fear of America's right. Compared to the world, our Left would be considered center right.

No, I consider the Left what it has always been. Those totalitarians that want socialism, communism, who are intolerant of any opposed ideas to their own, who deny science, facts, and reason when it doesn't fit their dogma.

A good example right now is the greentard environmental movement.

Unlike you, I can define and give examples of how the Left is destructive to society. At best, you might come up with isolated idiocy on the Right that's comparable to what the Left wants to, and often succeeds in, doing to society.
 
Democrats honor our institutions and support democracy. Republicans support democracy only if it serves their medieval purposes. The big lie and the people who still spew that bullshit have done some real damage. As always, the Democrats have to clean up the Republican's mess.

No they don't. They want to tear them down. It isn't the Republicans out pulling down statues and renaming everything so it's politically correct. It isn't the Right using fiction to teach history in our schools, nor is it the Right that is demanding every child go to a public school. The Democrats are, today, a party of the Left. They're the ones wrecking society.
 
Got any examples you care to share with us?

Banning abortions, without any consideration for rape, incest or health of the mother or fetus!

Banning History and Science books!

Creating Voting Suppression laws!

Denying Climate Change!

Living the BIG Lie- that Trump won the 2020 election and insisting the minority districts cheated.

Re-living the lie again here in NOVEMBER 2022- Because your candidates didn't win!

Calling for a Civil war- because your candidate didn't win!

I could keep going- But these are good enough examples to prove- YOU REPUBLICANS ARE TAKING AMERICA BACK!
 
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Banning abortions, without any consideration for rape, incest or health of the mother or fetus!

This is bullshit. Each state gets to decide what their policy towards abortion is. That's how it should be. This IS NOT a federal issue.

Banning History and Science books!

Well, banning ones that are full of bullshit like The 1619 Project being used as a history text when it's fiction, or science and math books that are more about social equity than STEM should happen. Why would anyone want books in our schools filled with lies, non-educational material, and nonsense?

Creating Voting Suppression laws!

Like? On the other hand, the Democrats and Left want election fraud laws put in place like HR 1 the "For the Voters Act" or SR 1 the equally terrible "John Lewis Voter's Act."

Denying Climate Change!

Why should anyone blindly accept bad science, and non-scientific garbage? Do you, for example, think that Gorebal Warming is primarily man caused? Do you think that it's because of CO2 and little or nothing else? How much bad science and fiction do you believe in? Do you think that solar and wind alone can meet our energy needs?

Living the BIG Lie- that Trump won the 2020 election and insisting the minority districts cheated.

As opposed to living the BIG Lie that Trump wasn't really elected in 2016 like I'm sure you believe?

Re-living the lie again here in NOVEMBER 2022- Because your candidates didn't win!

What? I for one am not rejecting the outcome of the last election. I do think that idiots like you voted for fools and morons and those will now be ruining the country, but that's a different issue.

Calling for a Civil war- because your candidate didn't win!

When did that happen? But I could claim the same thing for the 2016 election with the Left.

I could keep going- But that should get you started!

Right back at you!
 
No they don't. They want to tear them down. It isn't the Republicans out pulling down statues and renaming everything so it's politically correct. It isn't the Right using fiction to teach history in our schools, nor is it the Right that is demanding every child go to a public school. The Democrats are, today, a party of the Left. They're the ones wrecking society.

Pulling out Confederate statues that represent the desire to enslave people and attacking our electoral system, are two very different things. Very different. The statue removal is the rejection of slavery, the attack on our electoral system and the 1/6 attack on our capitol is just MAGA thuggery. Smart people clearly see the difference.
 
Pulling out Confederate statues that represent the desire to enslave people and attacking our electoral system, are two very different things. Very different. The statue removal is the rejection of slavery, the attack on our electoral system and the 1/6 attack on our capitol is just MAGA thuggery. Smart people clearly see the difference.

The Democrats are doing both. I gave the example of HR 1 the For The Voter's Act. It's an all-out attempt to turn US elections into Third World fraudulent ones on a mass scale.
 
The Democrats are doing both. I gave the example of HR 1 the For The Voter's Act. It's an all-out attempt to turn US elections into Third World fraudulent ones on a mass scale.

You can't gaslight me and say the Democrats have done anything close to the attack on our democracy perpetrated by the MAGAs. The propaganda is all on the GOP side, my friend.
 
No, I consider the Left what it has always been. Those totalitarians that want socialism, communism, who are intolerant of any opposed ideas to their own, who deny science, facts, and reason when it doesn't fit their dogma.

A good example right now is the greentard environmental movement.

Unlike you, I can define and give examples of how the Left is destructive to society. At best, you might come up with isolated idiocy on the Right that's comparable to what the Left wants to, and often succeeds in, doing to society.

The Right has been doing that for ages with their lies about elections and wars. Who lied us into Iraq? Who claimed Muslims were seen cheering on New Jersey rooftops when the towers fell, who lies about non-existent Crime waves and viruses being manufactured in China? Come on!
 
This is bullshit. Each state gets to decide what their policy towards abortion is. That's how it should be. This IS NOT a federal issue.



Well, banning ones that are full of bullshit like The 1619 Project being used as a history text when it's fiction, or science and math books that are more about social equity than STEM should happen. Why would anyone want books in our schools filled with lies, non-educational material, and nonsense?



Like? On the other hand, the Democrats and Left want election fraud laws put in place like HR 1 the "For the Voters Act" or SR 1 the equally terrible "John Lewis Voter's Act."



Why should anyone blindly accept bad science, and non-scientific garbage? Do you, for example, think that Gorebal Warming is primarily man caused? Do you think that it's because of CO2 and little or nothing else? How much bad science and fiction do you believe in? Do you think that solar and wind alone can meet our energy needs?



As opposed to living the BIG Lie that Trump wasn't really elected in 2016 like I'm sure you believe?



What? I for one am not rejecting the outcome of the last election. I do think that idiots like you voted for fools and morons and those will now be ruining the country, but that's a different issue.



When did that happen? But I could claim the same thing for the 2016 election with the Left.



Right back at you!

Can you, at least, try to make a valid point?

It doesn't matter, whether the states or the federal government is trying to ban abortions- I SAID IT WAS REPUBLICANS THAT ARE TRYING TO BAN ABORTIONS. AND YES LINDSEY GRAHAM said that he wants a Federal Ban on abortions "Across all 50 states", and he intends to bring the Bill for it!

You mention only a couple of books, While there is a “rapid acceleration” of book censorship occurring across the US, with more than 2,500 different book bans taking place over the past school year. More than 5,000 schools nationally have had books barred from access by students in libraries and classrooms.
There has been a “proliferation of organized efforts to advocate for book removals”, from rightwing politicians in states such as Texas, Georgia and Wisconsin to at least 50 groups that have sprung up either in person or on Facebook. Race and discussion of the US’s racist past is also a target of book bans, with 40% of titles banned featuring prominent characters of color. This censorious movement is turning our public schools into political battlegrounds, driving wedges within communities, forcing teachers and librarians from their jobs and casting a chill over the spirit of open inquiry and intellectual freedom that underpin a flourishing democracy.

And what is so horrible or biased about John Lewis's Voting act? Be specific!

You are not a scientist or authority on Science or Weather History! So you have no place to BLINDLY disagree with the experts!

WHO challenged Donald Trump's election or ever denied he won the Electoral vote? I'll tell you who- NO ONE YOU LYING SACK OF SHIT!

Your other accusations are too far out there for me to entertain with an answer!

SO HERE IS YOUR OWN SHIT- RIGHT BACK IN YOUR FACE SHITFACE!
 
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