Another shooting school, just another day in America

AProudLefty said:
Who the hell thinks inanimate objects move on their own? Maybe ghost hunters and psychics.
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So you agree with me on my original point, that being that a gun isn't the problem, a person is...

you didn't.
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You're right, it wasn't a bus. It was a fucking freight train...

Right and you asked me for an exception and I provided one. Now you are going nuts over it. I know you cannot come to terms with your loss.
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Your "exception" is stupid...

Anything could cause it move. I.e. a slight slope, low friction, wind, slight tremor and such. It is unpredictable. AssHatZomie gave another example.
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LOLOL!!! Are you even trying to be serious?

Wind? A tremor?? Careful you don't pull a muscle making those kinds of stretches...

No it does not as explained above.
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Right.

Please cite me a single example of "wind" blowing a loaded gun off a table and causing it to discharge.

What's really sad is that you have absolutely no appreciation for how fucking stupid you look right now...

*Sighs* I'll spell it out for you AGAIN! Proper mental health screening and universal healthcare.
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How in the fuck is universal health care going to stop gun violence?

Observe behaviors in students and children. Observe the bullying. Observe the emotional and mental stress. And so on. Address them before it's too late.
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Fine.

The problem, though, is that none of those seem to be pertinent to the shooting the other day in Virginia...
 
AProudLefty said:
Actually it was in response to this: "It would take the actions of a sick individual".

Again, as I have demonstrated, that is not necessarily true.
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Have you ever actually held a gun?

I've got a Kimber Pro-Carry .45 which, I can promise you, is never going to be blown off a table by the wind. Neither will any of my AR's. It'll never happen and, despite your apparent position that it can, it never will.

But, again, we're not talking about a gun gun getting blown off a table by the wind (I can't even believe you said that). We're talking about someone intentionally taking a loaded firearm, and intentionally killing people with it. How do you address that?

Remember, we're discussing gun violence. Even if the wind could blow a gun off of a table, that's not "violence"...
 
Street Glider said:
That's it.

Make a completely unsupportable bullshit claim and then run away with your tail between your legs when you're simply asked to cite an example of it happening.

You're a liar. It's never happened...
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Relax. I'll reply, I promise. There is a limit to my patience. I've worked with EBD students. Boy that did test my patience.
 
AProudLefty said:
True. The gravity is a force. If you place a gun, especially that it's heavy, on a low friction table that is slightly tilted. It may stay at rest to your eye. Then the gravity does the rest.
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Agreed. It's irresponsible of a person to place a loaded, cocked gun in a position that would allow gravity to move it and cause an accidental discharge.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed. It's irresponsible of a person to place a loaded, cocked gun in a position that would allow gravity to move it and cause an accidental discharge.
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That's true. It was the person who placed it there. Glider said he'd put his loaded on the floor and nothing would happen.

Few things wrong with that.

1. The gun is loaded and cocked and unsecured.
2. Assuming that he would leave it unattended, it's still his responsibility.
3. If something happened, guess who is responsible?
 
AProudLefty said:
That's true. It was the person who placed it there. Glider said he'd put his loaded on the floor and nothing would happen.

Few things wrong with that.

1. The gun is loaded and cocked and unsecured.
2. Assuming that he would leave it unattended, it's still his responsibility.
3. If something happened, guess who is responsible?
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1. Agreed.
2. Agreed.
3. The human being who loaded it and placed it there.
 
AProudLefty said:
Another rant. I'll take a break. Educating others isn't easy.
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Agreed. It's very difficult. Even more difficult when they are stupid. :D

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AProudLefty said:
Yeah I understand. I am just helping him see a hole in his argument. There have been accidental discharges even when nobody's around. In fact one was killed when his gun fell off and it discharged, hitting him in the chest, killing him.
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The shocking number of deaths caused by falling TVs

18,000 people are injured by falling sets every year; three children are injured by a tipped-over TV every hour; and one child is killed every two weeks.

https://theweek.com/articles/469421...tats: 18,000 people,is killed every two weeks.


Lets ban TVs
 
AProudLefty said:
That's true. It was the person who placed it there. Glider said he'd put his loaded on the floor and nothing would happen.

Few things wrong with that.

1. The gun is loaded and cocked and unsecured.
2. Assuming that he would leave it unattended, it's still his responsibility.
3. If something happened, guess who is responsible?
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You are missing the point completely.

At least you're acting liker you are. I believe you understand exactly what I'm saying. You just want to be a contrarian.

If I place a loaded gun on the floor, AND NO ONE TOUCHES IT, it will not discharge.

And, if you truly didn't understand the point I was making, well, then it's entirely possible that you might just be too stupid for the internet...
 
Street Glider said:
You are missing the point completely.
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Again, I understood your point clearly. You are making the point that the guns don't kill people, people with guns do. That is a given. Everybody understands. It was your Captain Obvious or Sherlock Holmes moment.

If I place a loaded gun on the floor, AND NO ONE TOUCHES IT, it will not discharge.
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As I have shown you with a few examples, that is not necessarily true.

And, if you truly didn't understand the point I was making, well, then it's entirely possible that you might just be too stupid for the internet...
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Heh.
 
AProudLefty said:
As I have shown you with a few examples, that is not necessarily true.
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You've shown no such thing.

But, since you insist it can happen, please cite me a single example of the wind blowing a locked and loaded firearm off a table, onto the ground resulting in a discharge.

I'll wait...
 
Street Glider said:
You've shown no such thing.

But, since you insist it can happen, please cite me a single example of the wind blowing a locked and loaded firearm off a table, onto the ground resulting in a discharge.

I'll wait...
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LOL. You actually thought that I think a wind can blow a heavy inanimate object? :rofl2: I see what your problem is.
 
Street Glider said:
Post #299.

You stated that the wind could cause the gun to move.

The wind won't do that.

So, now you're just a scumbag liar...
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Oh yes this one:

AProudLefty said:
Anything could cause it move. I.e. a slight slope, low friction, wind, slight tremor and such. It is unpredictable. AssHatZomie gave another example.
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You are smart enough to draw a conclusion out of my statement (it might not be clear enough for you, if so I apologize).

A combination of any of those initials can cause an object to move.
 
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