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Althea said:
Look at the difference in their expressions. This was the Sec. of State meeting. Romney is totally humiliated after correctly claiming that trump is a buffoon in the primaries. trump is enjoying every second of this moment, especially since there is a photo.

I don't believe Romney has done anything to redeem himself. Not once did he vote with Dems on crucial bills that he no doubt agreed with.

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He was one of the 7 GOP Senators who voted to convict twump in the last impeachment.
 
LurchAddams said:
He was one of the 7 GOP Senators who voted to convict twump in the last impeachment.
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OK. That gives him a modicum of respect.

I believe he also voted for the gun safety bill.

Other than that, he's still a partisan. At least he doesn't try to pass that Qanon nonsense around.

Probably because he's going to run for POTUS
 
T. A. Gardner said:
This was my list you refer to correct?

High inflation not seen in decades
The highest energy prices ever
Open borders
High crime
Shortages of goods and services
Incompetent government
Pushes in Greentard environmentalism

Inflation highest in decades:
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A global issue.

Highest energy prices ever
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See above.

Open borders
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They have been apprehended and drugs seized.

But sure you're right it's open borders.

High crime:
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The high crimes also occur in red states and we have always had high crime before Biden took office.

Shortages of goods and services
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An ongoing computer-chip shortage has affected cars, iPads, and dog-washing technology alike. Chipmakers like Intel had already seen production issues pre-pandemic, but as with many industries, COVID-19 brought a variety of new supply-chain issues. The chip shortage is a problem for consumers wanting basically anything with a computerized component, which is much of the economy. Take cars as an example.

"Pre-pandemic". OOPS. You failed this one.

Incompetent government

Incompetent Experts and Bad Government
https://www.aier.org/article/incompetent-experts-and-bad-government/

The CDC and Fauci are two excellent examples of this incompetence

Government Incompetence is Killing Us
http://www.governmentincompetence.org/
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It started under Trump admin and BEFORE Biden took the office.

Greentard stuff
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The green movement started in the 60's, not the past 2 years.

But hey yes let's blame Democrats for that.

“Failure of the Green Economy”
https://social-ecology.org/wp/2012/05/failure-of-the-green-economy/
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Um this is the US. But since it talks about the movement in Germany, it's fitting for you.

So, Herr Göbbels, your move. What big lie will you tell to try and refute the obvious?
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Thank you for the effort. However Goebbels was superior to you. You're like a bug to him.

Your propaganda might work on retards, but not on us.
 
Althea said:
OK. That gives him a modicum of respect.

I believe he also voted for the gun safety bill.

Other than that, he's still a partisan. At least he doesn't try to pass that Qanon nonsense around.

Probably because he's going to run for POTUS
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I don't think Romney will want to put his family through another failed presidential run.
 
AProudLefty said:
A global issue.



See above.



They have been apprehended and drugs seized.

But sure you're right it's open borders.



The high crimes also occur in red states and we have always had high crime before Biden took office.



An ongoing computer-chip shortage has affected cars, iPads, and dog-washing technology alike. Chipmakers like Intel had already seen production issues pre-pandemic, but as with many industries, COVID-19 brought a variety of new supply-chain issues. The chip shortage is a problem for consumers wanting basically anything with a computerized component, which is much of the economy. Take cars as an example.

"Pre-pandemic". OOPS. You failed this one.



It started under Trump admin and BEFORE Biden took the office.



The green movement started in the 60's, not the past 2 years.

But hey yes let's blame Democrats for that.



Um this is the US. But since it talks about the movement in Germany, it's fitting for you.



Thank you for the effort. However Goebbels was superior to you. You're like a bug to him.

Your propaganda might work on retards, but not on us.
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That the best you can do? A collection of red herrings, dodging the question, and non sequiturs. You refuted nothing and are still doing the Göbbels thing as a result.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
That the best you can do? A collection of red herrings, dodging the question, and non sequiturs. You refuted nothing and are still doing the Göbbels thing as a result.
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Employing the fascist tactics again, I see.

What red herrings? Dodging what questions? What non sequiturs?

You know what you are doing. You throw those words at me without any explanation at all, hoping it'll stick.
 
AProudLefty said:
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All this proves is exactly what I claimed. US gas prices are the highest they've ever been. The tu quoque fallacy of comparing that to other countries is irrelevant. US gas prices are the highest they've ever been.

Now, I could add that Joke's energy policies contribute to that, not try to rectify and reduce it.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
All this proves is exactly what I claimed. US gas prices are the highest they've ever been. The tu quoque fallacy of comparing that to other countries is irrelevant. US gas prices are the highest they've ever been.

Now, I could add that Joke's energy policies contribute to that, not try to rectify and reduce it.
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Yes US gas prices went up since the pandemic just like any other countries. However, as the graph has proven, they were LOWER than most of other countries.

Again with tossing the fallacies around as if they mean something.

You could add that, however you cannot blame him for the prices AROUND THE WORLD.
 
AProudLefty said:
Employing the fascist tactics again, I see.

What red herrings? Dodging what questions? What non sequiturs?

You know what you are doing. You throw those words at me without any explanation at all, hoping it'll stick.
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It isn't "fascist" to point out your logical fallacies. I gave you multiple sources that confirm my position. Your response wasn't to refute anything I said but rather dodge answering or making counter claims. So far, you're batting 1000 Herr Göbbels.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It isn't "fascist" to point out your logical fallacies. I gave you multiple sources that confirm my position. Your response wasn't to refute anything I said but rather dodge answering or making counter claims. So far, you're batting 1000 Herr Göbbels.
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You have not pointed out my logical fallacies. You just threw those claims of logical fallacies at me, hoping it will stick.

I will give you an opportunity to list the logical fallacies, one by one, and explain how they are fallacies.

So good try. At least you're improving slightly. Goebbels would be so proud of you, even for a bug.
 
AProudLefty said:
Yes US gas prices went up since the pandemic just like any other countries. However, as the graph has proven, they were LOWER than most of other countries.
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Non sequitur. I never made any argument about the relative price of gas by nation. Most of the differences in price of gas can be traced to taxes. In Europe gas is far more expensive due entirely to massive taxes on it by Progressive Leftist governments wanting to pay for mass transit systems that can't break even on operating costs.

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It was true then, it's true now.

Again with tossing the fallacies around as if they mean something.
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They do mean something, particularly when I add an explanation why. What you are responding with is just ad hominem.

You could add that, however you cannot blame him for the prices AROUND THE WORLD.
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No, but I can blame him for insulting the Saudis who reduced production to spite him, for his entrenched ignorance on energy policy, for his causing energy futures to rise in price. Those are things Joke has caused.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Non sequitur. I never made any argument about the relative price of gas by nation. Most of the differences in price of gas can be traced to taxes. In Europe gas is far more expensive due entirely to massive taxes on it by Progressive Leftist governments wanting to pay for mass transit systems that can't break even on operating costs.
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Bad argument. Try again. BTW, the chart is from 2017. Are you now blaming Biden for that? :rofl2:

They do mean something, particularly when I add an explanation why. What you are responding with is just ad hominem.
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Ad hominem? :rofl2: You're really bad at understanding fallacies.

No, but I can blame him for insulting the Saudis who reduced production to spite him, for his entrenched ignorance on energy policy, for his causing energy futures to rise in price. Those are things Joke has caused.
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Another bad argument. Are you saying the Saudis' feelings are easily hurt?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
All this proves is exactly what I claimed. US gas prices are the highest they've ever been. The tu quoque fallacy of comparing that to other countries is irrelevant. US gas prices are the highest they've ever been.

Now, I could add that Joke's energy policies contribute to that, not try to rectify and reduce it.
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Putin is dying


Ukraine is winning


It worked asshole
 
It's fun to defeat fascists at their own propaganda and watch them squirm. Goebbels was a supreme master at it and he never squirmed.

If you want to be good at it, learn from the supreme master.
 
LurchAddams said:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/11/08/us/elections/results-needle-forecast.html













Have you guys seen the latest from the NBC news desk? They're predicting a ONE PERSON MAJORITY! ONE for the MAGAs!!!

That is such a huge win for the Democrats. The MAGAs will be virtually powerless. Whoever is speaker will have to grovel to everyone for their vote. Poor MAGAs - they brought it on themselves, though!
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I think the Democrats are going to retain control of the House with between 218-220 seats.
 
LV426 said:
I think the Democrats are going to retain control of the House with between 218-220 seats.
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Can you imagine? We may never see Volsrock, Grockmaster, "Truth" Detector, or Into The Night, etc. ever again! Who will I taunt?

Hawkeye will always be here, whew! :)
 
LurchAddams said:
Can you imagine? We may never see Volsrock, Grockmaster, "Truth" Detector, or Into The Night, etc. ever again! Who will I taunt?

Hawkeye will always be here, whew! :)
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The remaining vote in WA, OR, and CA favors the Democrats. It's gonna be close, but once all the votes are counted, I strongly believe the Democrats will retain control of the House, albeit with a slim margin.
 
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