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Ranking of Presidents
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Port Tack
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I think a neutral observer would and could easily disagree with many of their selections.
For example in the category "Foreign policy accomplishments"
FDR is rated first. FDR's foreign policy accomplishments were dragging us into WW 2 and then setting the eventual stage for the Cold War. Washington never did much on the foreign policy front in office, as the US really didn't have a foreign policy in its early days. So, these make little sense as top picks.
Likewise, Buchanan did nothing of note in foreign policy, and while you may claim otherwise, the facts are that Trump negotiated foreign relations openings between most of the Gulf States (Kuwait, Bahrain, UAE, Qatar, etc.) and Israel. Normally this would have been hailed as a major breakthrough in Middle East peace. He also brought US involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan to a near end.
I think in the category "Leadership ability" again, they grossly overrate FDR as a President. For example, at the Yalta conference Stalin bulldozed over FDR getting all sorts of concessions that ultimately would lead to the Cold War. FDR caved on most of Stalin's demands and when he returned to the US saying all the Soviets wanted was what Americans wanted and that Stalin was a "good Christian man."
https://www.aier.org/article/fdr-and-stalin-planned-the-future-of-the-world/
Churchill, likewise, found FDR naive and something of a sucker to be played on foreign policy. So, it's hard to see how he could be a top pick.
On "Court appointments" FDR again is a top pick even though his picks amounted to court packing that gave him Yes men for his domestic policies. This same charge is leveled at Trump. I can't see Andrew Johnson as the worst either, as he made virtually no appointments whatsoever while in office. It's interesting that one of the few appointments Johnson did make, Samuel Blatchford, eventually ended up on the Supreme Court. Again, the positioning makes no sense.
So, I'd say the whole exercise here is one of a bunch of mostly, or entirely, Left leaning academics in History are simply foisting their mostly political opinions on the subject without much or any deliberation or evidence.
You are so fucked in the stupid it's not worth explaining why your points are about as sharp as a marble.
Yakuda
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How? By sending people to trespass at the capital? The idiot I was responding to said trump used violence to overthrow the govt NOT try. You're defective too I see.
T. A. Gardner
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Or how he was a "professor" or a "truck driver..." Biden makes up all sorts of whoppers. It's almost like When I grow up I'm going to be... stories with him. The intellect of a six-year-old.
T. A. Gardner
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And yet, another win! You guys are too easy to pummel. No defense whatsoever for you positions. As always, the immediate response is ad hominem and insults because you have nothing else to offer.
Yakuda
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This tells me you have no fucking clue what that graphic means. LMBO. I bet next you tell us how smart you are
Port Tack
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Good historians did look at the facts, that's why your Velveeta man is dead last or nearly so.
Yakuda
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Dont insult 6 year olds.
Port Tack
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link?
NiftyNiblick
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Explain to me, TAG, how somebody like yourself can write such inane things on the internet for the entire world to see,
and then have the staggering effrontery to criticize anybody else's intellect.
I'm sure that you can't.
T. A. Gardner
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No, they likely didn't, and I pointed out some of that very clearly. As for Trump, I don't give a shit about him one way or the other. Where I mentioned him, I gave facts to back up my positions. All you responded with is empty rhetoric, insults, and ad hominem.
Yakuda
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Facts???? Your idiot leader said you people prefer truth to facts. You must be a proficient swallower.
Yakuda
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T. A. Gardner
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Must be hard on you having the memory of a goldfish...
https://nypost.com/2021/07/29/biden-mocked-for-claiming-he-used-to-drive-an-18-wheeler/
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-claim-drove-18-wheeler-truck-provokes-skepticism-1614183
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ut-he-never-taught-a-single-class/ar-AA13L18x
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens-claim-professor-after-leaving-senate-confusion
In both cases these were complete fabrications on Biden's part. They're tall tales, fish stories. And, they are hardly the only ones. Joke tells whoppers like these all the time. He lied about his college record, he lied about his travels on Amtrak. He's lied his ass off all of his life and now in the public eye, these lies are being brought under scrutiny like never before.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
I don't care if he spouts bullshit night and day.
He's a politician.
We just assume that they're all spouting bullshit. Otherwise, they'd be in a different line of work.
We're not talking honesty. We're talking intellect. And your house is made of crystal when you criticize anyone's intellect.
Students aren’t ranking the presidents. Historians are.
T. A. Gardner
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I do because the shit that comes out of his mouth could profoundly affect you and me in very negative ways. Or is it you're just a masochist who loves having bosses and managers who are complete idiots telling you what to do?
Biden is an idiot. He is an intellectual midget.
No, he is not. He is not at the top of the presidential brain list, but in no way is he an intellectual midget. I have never been a big fan of us, but I came across a 3-hour interview with him on CSPAN. He knows American history and politics.l He knows world leaders and how to deal with them. He knows the business. He uses, unlike daffy Donald, an adult vocabulary. He has actually read history,
T. A. Gardner
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Sure there is. He's been on the wrong side of virtually every major legislative and foreign policy decision in the last 40 years. He continually tells whoppers (aka lies) about his past and exploits. He rarely has had a good grasp on facts.
Link the interview. I'm betting his grasp of US history is vague, shallow, and often wrong.
Compared to Trump, since you brought him up, Biden can't even make complete coherent sentences most of the time. He's widely and long known as a "Gaff machine." I doubt he's read much history on anything.
Joe Biden’s gun control rhetoric is historically and legally illiterate and just plain dumb
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ly-and-legally-illiterate-and-just-plain-dumb
You can't buy a cannon? What are these?
Joe Biden is either an historical illiterate or a shameless liar. Perhaps he is both.
Desperate to keep the disintegrating narrative about the events of January 6 alive, Biden, in his first sparsely attended speech to a joint session of Congress on Wednesday night, declared the January 6 protest was “the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War.”
https://tennesseestar.com/tag/historical-illiterate/
Drowning' Biden is an 'economic illiterate,' Rep. Byron Donalds says in response to SOTU speech
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dr...byron-donalds-says-in-response-to-sotu-speech
Biden Wins for ‘The Most Economically Illiterate Presidential Utterance Since Jimmy Carter’
https://thedailycable.com/10/27/pol...te-presidential-utterance-since-jimmy-carter/
Biden’s Bragging About the Economy Just Proves How Financially Illiterate He Is
https://www.manhattan-institute.org...gh-yet-biden-keeps-bragging-about-the-economy
Biden’s Attack On ‘White Man’s Culture’ Is A Mix Of Historical Illiteracy And Dishonesty
https://thefederalist.com/2019/03/2...-mix-of-historical-illiteracy-and-dishonesty/
Biden is a historical, economic, and just about every other complex subject illiterate. He proves it every time he opens his mouth.