Mortgage rates drop as inflation drops

Target inflation is 2%, so hopefully, inflation will continue to happen.
Fascism.
The alternative to inflation, deflation, is the civilization destroyer.
WRONG. In deflation, things cost LESS money. An recent example where deflation works is the computer industry. Computers have become cheaper and cheaper while getting more powerful (deflation via innovation).
In overall deflation, money is worth more, not less. Discard of history.
We really do not want that.
We really want that.
2% inflation is a mild tax on laziness, so works well.
Fascism.
Inflation is down from a high of 9.1% to 7.7% recently.
Base rate fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy.
Hopefully it will continue to drop down to 2%, but that will take time. With any luck, it will not overshoot and actually drop below 2%. No inflation, or deflation would be a disaster.
Discard of history. Discard of economics. Fascism.

The only ones that deflation hurts is the government.
 
Actually, both did... Obama first appointed Powell to the board, trump elevated him to chairman, and Biden reappointed him as chairman.

How do you not know this stuff? I am serious. Both the original appointment as chairman, and the reappointment were huge news stories.

This is mostly correct. Neither Powell nor any other board member is appointed by any President. They are NOMINATED by the President and must be confirmed by the Senate. Only the Senate can confirm the nomination. However, you do have the dates correct.
 
I do wally. They are STILL independent from the Govt in their actions though. How you do not know this is amazing. I knew you were a goofball, just didnt know you were a Desh level goofball.

The Federal Reserve is not independent of the government in their actions. The board of governors and the chairman are appointed by the Senate.

I might point out that the Federal Reserve itself is unconstitutional. It is communism (government ownership of markets) and fascism (government manipulation of markets). In this case, the currency and debt markets in the United States. The Fed has been the cause of crash after crash. First it makes money 'easy' by lowering interest rates, fueling speculation based on debt. This results in 'good times' for awhile, because like any pyramid scheme, the first ones in make a lot of money. It's based on an empty assets however. Sooner or later, the pyramid collapses, and we have another crash. This is not because of capitalism, it because of the Federal Reserve manipulating the debt market.

Congress never had authority to create the Federal Reserve, and no President ever had authority to steal gold from people (like FDR did). The problems of fiat money are occurring worldwide, because fiat money has the same problems, no matter where it's used. More and more people are becoming aware of these inherent problems, and are already looking around for another currency.

Governments WANT fiat currency. It allows them to expand indefinitely, simply by printing money. Governments WANT inflation so they can pay off the bonds they've accumulated using the newly printed funny money.
They can also just issue new bonds, increasing debt. Like an individual living day to day off of credit cards, soon or later it all comes crashing down. No one is willing to buy more of the debt and the government (or individual) can't pay the bills anymore. The ONLY difference between the two is the government's ability to try to print it's way out of it's problems. It's like the individual trying to pay off his debts with Monopoly money.

It doesn't work. This is what is happening now. It is happening to any government based on fiat money. Worldwide, it's a race to the bottom. The only question is who will get there first.

China and Russia are both stockpiling gold. Russia is moving toward a gold currency. Iran is already there, but that's hardly a significant economy in the world. The U.S. is broke, and there's no fixing it unless Congress makes a 180 and stops spending and borrowing so much money.

The value of ANY currency is based on faith, even the value of gold. By 'value', I mean the ability to trade the money for something that is desired. Money is really nothing more than a medium of barter, nothing more.
Money is also a unit of account. You can set a price with it. ALL money are these two things, whether it's fiat, gold, Bitcoin, clamshells, or whatever.

Right now, faith in fiat money is failing. We will see a historic change soon. Not just a crash in the United States, but a crash worldwide. It cannot be stopped by any government, because they are all doing the same thing (with certain exceptions).

My advice? Invest in things of hard value...gold, real estate, diamonds, silver, fine art, etc. Don't invest in any currencies. The decision on which currency will be used has not yet been made by the people. Investing in companies (the stock market) is extremely risky during these times, particularly in companies with a lot of debt.
 
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The Federal Reserve is not independent of the government in their actions. The board of governors and the chairman are appointed by the Senate.

I might point out that the Federal Reserve itself is unconstitutional. It is communism (government ownership of markets) and fascism (government manipulation of markets). In this case, the currency and debt markets in the United States. The Fed has been the cause of crash after crash. First it makes money 'easy' by lowering interest rates, fueling speculation based on debt. This results in 'good times' for awhile, because like any pyramid scheme, the first ones in make a lot of money. It's based on an empty assets however. Sooner or later, the pyramid collapses, and we have another crash. This is not because of capitalism, it because of the Federal Reserve manipulating the debt market.

Congress never had authority to create the Federal Reserve, and no President ever had authority to steal gold from people (like FDR did). The problems of fiat money are occurring worldwide, because fiat money has the same problems, no matter where it's used. More and more people are becoming aware of these inherent problems, and are already looking around for another currency.

Governments WANT fiat currency. It allows them to expand indefinitely, simply by printing money. Governments WANT inflation so they can pay off the bonds they've accumulated using the newly printed funny money.
They can also just issue new bonds, increasing debt. Like an individual living day to day off of credit cards, soon or later it all comes crashing down. No one is willing to buy more of the debt and the government (or individual) can't pay the bills anymore. The ONLY difference between the two is the government's ability to try to print it's way out of it's problems. It's like the individual trying to pay off his debts with Monopoly money.

It doesn't work. This is what is happening now. It is happening to any government based on fiat money. Worldwide, it's a race to the bottom. The only question is who will get there first.

China and Russia are both stockpiling gold. Russia is moving toward a gold currency. Iran is already there, but that's hardly a significant economy in the world. The U.S. is broke, and there's no fixing it unless Congress makes a 180 and stops spending and borrowing so much money.

The value of ANY currency is based on faith, even the value of gold. By 'value', I mean the ability to trade the money for something that is desired. Money is really nothing more than a medium of barter, nothing more.
Money is also a unit of account. You can set a price with it. ALL money are these two things, whether it's fiat, gold, Bitcoin, clamshells, or whatever.

Right now, faith in fiat money is failing. We will see a historic change soon. Not just a crash in the United States, but a crash worldwide. It cannot be stopped by any government, because they are all doing the same thing (with certain exceptions).

My advice? Invest in things of hard value...gold, real estate, diamonds, silver, fine art, etc. Don't invest in any currencies. The decision on which currency will be used has not yet been made by the people. Investing in companies (the stock market) is extremely risky during these times, particularly in companies with a lot of debt.

Agree on almost everything. I kind of pointed out how the Fed works,......but never did I say I agree with it. ;)


Psssssssst..........

"Who are the Silent Thieves?
Why are they manipulating you?
How are they stealing your wealth?
Bubble.
Crash.
Steal.
Lie.
Repeat.
What is inflation?
Monetary manipulation.
Taxation without representation.
PUT AN END TO THE ENDLESS.
1913.
Q "



" Endless lies.
Endless wars.
Endless inflation.
Endless 'printing'.
Endless oppression.
Endless subjugation.
Endless surveillance.
Who will put an end to the endless?
Taking control.
Q "
 
The Government does not own the Fed. It is a private corporation. The Fed Board IS a government agency, but it acts much like a Board of Directors of any corporation. I think both of those facts are material to any discussion about the role of the Fed.
 
The Government does not own the Fed. It is a private corporation. The Fed Board IS a government agency, but it acts much like a Board of Directors of any corporation. I think both of those facts are material to any discussion about the role of the Fed.

The government owns the Fed. Congress created it. The President nominates members of it's governing board and the Senate confirms the nominations.
 
The markets seemed overjoyed. The markets are up a huge amount. The markets speak for most people.

Yep. The markets react for a reason. Sometimes (many times) there is an overreaction, but the market doesn't operate in a vacuum. They saw a better than expected inflation report, and logically concluded it would mitigate against larger rate increases from the Fed. Which in turn mitigates against a recession. So they bought across the board. Hunches and feelings don't mean a thing. People get rich off the hunches of others. Numbers matter.
 
That was easy...I rest my case... So you two rich guys donate to the dog shelters and the food pantries if you would...this week...Thanks in advance... perhaps one of the famous fundraisers would be super appropriate at this time..;)
 
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