Ukraine; Probably 240,000 dead so far.
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Casualties doesn't mean death.
But the only person to blame for this is Putin. If he hadn't invaded Ukraine the number of dead Russian soldiers would be zero.
moon
Satire for Sanity
' Probably' doesn't mean definitely.
Putin was pushed. Biden did the pushing. It's Biden's war, nobody else's, not even the pants-free piano player, Zelensky.
Old men make wars- young men die in them.
Probably 100,000 casualties doesn't mean definitely 100,000 dead. Read your thread title then tell us who is confusing probably with definitely.
Are you saying Putin is so weak that Biden can convince him to do something? Putin was the one that decided to invade Ukraine. Biden didn't force him to.
moon
Satire for Sanity
The thread title states ' probably ' not ' definitely . Sorry that reality doesn't match up with your head.
That is now sorted. It's you.
It wouldn't matter what I was saying- you'd still misunderstand it.
Crocodile tears.
Seven million Ukrainians died expelling Nazi invaders.
If you don't think they are willing to take a body blow to force back Kremlin imperialists, then you haven't been paying attention.
moon
Satire for Sanity
You believe in NATO imperialism, bugler. Many Ukrainians don't.
You don't even realize that you are blowing your bugle for the American fossil fuel industries.
Except it isn't probable that 240,000 died. It is only probable that 240,000 were injured or died. Someone isn't dead just because they are injured.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Wounded people are more likely to die than those who are not- particularly under current Ukrainian conditions. Probably, many of the wounded died.
You can stfu now as your argument has failed.
We don't know for sure how many are dead or wounded. We can only surmise along the lines of probabilities. It really isn't worth you making yourself look more foolish over.
............but if you insist.
Wounded people may be more likely to die but they are not 100% guaranteed to die. The majority of battlefield wounds no longer result in death. Approximately 8-10 times as many are wounded and don't die compared to those that die.
Are claiming Putin is a liar when he doesn't admit 100,000 dead Russian soldiers but instead claims just under 6,000. Why are you willing to accept Putin's lies about why he invaded Ukraine but not is lies about the number of casualties?
moon
Satire for Sanity
Your spurious statistics do not apply to all theaters. You really should stop digging.
There's not a single NATO soldier standing on Russian soil or even poised to attack it.
All it means is a lot of people are dead from PUTIN'S war. You never know the truth about war or how many died. The fog of war keeps us in the dark. We think Putin figured a 3 day way with Ukraine's submission following. He had it wrong. There is a site that interviews Russians on the street. The young want it to end. The old say Putin knows much they do not, so they will back him. They see it as America's war and Ukraine attacked them.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Advancing into Ukraine means the same thing.
Noking
Fight authoritarianism support Noking
You forgot to mention long live Putin.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Russia must have secure borders. Putin said so- and any sane person must agree.
And I suppose Obama forced Putin to invade Crimea
moon
Satire for Sanity
That would depend upon whether he was party to the 2014 US-led coup.