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There is a huge difference between the two parties in how to deal with racism.

With one party, the focus is on race, it is what Rush attempted to make fun of but wound up stepping in. That party thinks that we should divide people up into each ethnicity, gender, sexual preference and whatever further divide we can come up with and make laws regarding how they should be treated at all times.

In the other party, the focus is to look in other directions than separation and division to bring us together in a society that can finally conquer the inane "racism" that hounds us. They believe that focusing on race can only make us continue to focus on our differences rather than what brings us together or finding what can bring us together.

When somebody takes the focus away from that, and brings it back to the party being "whites with attitude" for the other side, they need to have some counsel whispered in their ear. This isn't what we aim for, rather than support and bring them their bath water we should try to re-aim the party towards the goal.

Well at least you backed off assigning him a false motive for playing the song.
 
What people in this thread speak of their "pride" of the party??? Certainly I take no pride in a political party. I do believe that idealogically the republican party espouses more of my ideas of smaller government...you really are laying the hyperbole on thick Damo.
Bull,

Many have pointed out, especially during affirmative action arguments, that the Rs goal is to remove the focus on race and how the other party's focus on this actually creates what they say they are trying to end. Pretending nobody makes such arguments is intellectually fraudulent.

Hint: saying "hyperbole" many times doesn't make it more right.
 
I have not represented a "reason" at all. I have simply stated that the song gives fodder, and those that continue to support it provide still more, for those on the left to point at the party as "racist".

Bullshit you didn't Damo. You said in several posts that he used the excuse "the other guy did it first" That is assigning "reason". It was a gross misrepresentation of Rush's stated rationale and I note you acknowledged the correct one in your last post.
 
Bullshit you didn't Damo. You said in several posts that he used the excuse "the other guy did it first" That is assigning "reason". It was a gross misrepresentation of Rush's stated rationale and I note you acknowledged the correct one in your last post.
Again, that is talking about YOUR argument, not assigning Rush any motive. Saying, they said it first is not an excuse, and you as a parent know it isn't.
 
Bull,

Many have pointed out, especially during affirmative action arguments, that the Rs goal is to remove the focus on race and how the other party's focus on this actually creates what they say they are trying to end. Pretending nobody makes such arguments is intellectually fraudulent.

Hint: saying "hyperbole" many times doesn't make it more right.

Hint: claiming people in this thread claimed "pride in the republican party" isn't true!
 
Hint: claiming people in this thread claimed "pride in the republican party" isn't true!
You have no idea what you are talking about. And I was speaking of the pride they exemplified in the color-blind stance of the party while making past arguments. I didn't claim they said such things in this thread or that they ever said they were proud of the party. Those people will know who they are, after many years of hanging around together we get to know each other quite well.

Now, according to you, I should say "hyperbole" a couple times and claim a victory.
 
Again, that is talking about YOUR argument, not assigning Rush any motive. Saying, they said it first is not an excuse, and you as a parent know it isn't.

No that is your argument! You claim that Rush's reason was because the other guy did it first! I provided Rush's actual reason and you continued to make it that it was Rush's excuse. Then you go on to state that we argued all day to support the song...wtf?

The song was never what I defended and rereading the thread supports that statement! I defended his, Rush's, motives against your misrepresentation ...period! The song in and of itself is distasteful, but for regular listeners who get the talking points and know what he was alluding to with it, in that context, it's really a non issue!
 
You have no idea what you are talking about. And I was speaking of the pride they exemplified in the color-blind stance of the party while making past arguments. I didn't claim they said such things in this thread or that they ever said they were proud of the party. Those people will know who they are, after many years of hanging around together we get to know each other quite well.

Now, according to you, I should say "hyperbole" a couple times and claim a victory.

Why should you? Beating her over the head with it to gain the upperhand seems to work just fine for you.

Is there some place in "Rules of the board" that states how many times you can use a word in an exchange before you get dinged by the board owner?
 
You have no idea what you are talking about. And I was speaking of the pride they exemplified in the color-blind stance of the party while making past arguments. I didn't claim they said such things in this thread or that they ever said they were proud of the party. Those people will know who they are, after many years of hanging around together we get to know each other quite well.

Now, according to you, I should say "hyperbole" a couple times and claim a victory.

You have used hyperbole and have condescended as a way to win the argument in this thread Damo, not me. I never claimed a win, that was AHZ and Loyal doing that for me~~~:cof1:
 
No that is your argument! You claim that Rush's reason was because the other guy did it first! I provided Rush's actual reason and you continued to make it that it was Rush's excuse. Then you go on to state that we argued all day to support the song...wtf?

The song was never what I defended and rereading the thread supports that statement! I defended his, Rush's, motives against your misrepresentation ...period! The song in and of itself is distasteful, but for regular listeners who get the talking points and know what he was alluding to with it, in that context, it's really a non issue!
No, that isn't my argument. I have explained to you my argument in the past few posts and where you have been mistaken.

I have pointed out that in your attempts to excuse Rush you, and others who are trying to excuse it, have stated, "It was because of that article." and "He was doing a parody".

I have pointed out that parody or not it provides fodder for those on the left, and that attempting to excuse it provide still more fodder. And the excuses you give in that defense of Rush are childlike arguments of "They did it too!"

Let me put it this way, if my child is shouting the "F-bomb" in the street while making fun of a friend who shouted it she will still be in trouble, even though it was a parody. It wouldn't matter that she was on her way to tell on that other person, it wouldn't matter that the other kid did it first and she was just mocking... none of that would matter.
 
I want Tutu to address this, if Prakosh were here, he could address it.

Always bringing up your boyfriends, sheesh!

No, I wasn't even thinking about that, but since you brought it up...................:tongout: Damn, you are paranoid, but I hear that's what weed does to a person.
 
No, what I am proposing is that people who in some threads speak of their pride in the party being color-blind, actually backing up that pride with action.

then you obviously didn't read post 285....else you would have clarified action....

and you're still proposing lockstep action....

for your convenience:

act? how? suppress their speech....and who said rush represents anyone....he claims he represents no one....he is not elected...does oprah represent america....how about american idol...they have a larger audience....
 
then you obviously didn't read post 285....else you would have clarified action....

and you're still proposing lockstep action....

for your convenience:
I believe that my action here exemplifies what action I think should be taken. We need to speak out towards those who continue to focus others on, and therefore continue the perception of, race baiting by those in our party.
 
what is your action?

so if we all exemplify damocles....we will all be good little conservatives....

you do realize that is what you are saying.....
I have repeatedly said that we should speak to our friends in the party when we see the focus getting off track. You are simply being purposefully dense in order to pretend I haven't been clear enough to you.

Here is me doing it again: Supporting this is a mistake, it provides fodder for the left and is the reason so many believe that Rush and people in our party are racist.

It is the reason that players have already said they would not play on a team owned by Rush, and it doesn't help to say, "It was a parody."

I have been very clear, parody or not, it was over the line and running around excusing it isn't helping promote what many have used as their arguments against affirmative action.
 
I have repeatedly said that we should speak to our friends in the party when we see the focus getting off track. You are simply being purposefully dense in order to pretend I haven't been clear enough to you. Supporting this is a mistake, it provides fodder for the left and is the reason so many believe that Rush and people in our party are racist.

dude....chill out...i asked you that question a long time ago...and you never answered me....if you answered others, ok...i didn't follow every post in this thread as you obviously did not.

you haven't been clear to me....at all.

the left will find fodder no matter what....i don't support it if it is racist....but parody....and if some find offense to that, then we should keep out mouths shut to defend against baseless claims of racism?

you murdered GRIND....there is no longer a member here named grind.....if you speak out against this, you are a racist beeetch......
 
dude....chill out...i asked you that question a long time ago...and you never answered me....if you answered others, ok...i didn't follow every post in this thread as you obviously did not.

you haven't been clear to me....at all.

the left will find fodder no matter what....i don't support it if it is racist....but parody....and if some find offense to that, then we should keep out mouths shut to defend against baseless claims of racism?

you murdered GRIND....there is no longer a member here named grind.....if you speak out against this, you are a racist beeetch......
dood... I am relaxed. It's a messageboard not a live argument. There is no emotion in this.

The left will "find" fodder no matter what, there is no reason to so clearly provide it for them.
 
dood... I am relaxed. It's a messageboard not a live argument. There is no emotion in this.

The left will "find" fodder no matter what, there is no reason to so clearly provide it for them.

Exactly. And Damo and myself have called them on it when it is unwarranted, for instance, smearing of all Tea Party activist as racist for criticizing Obama.

But Rush is clearly a race baiter. How else does one explain his comments on Donovan getting a free pass, which to me is far more relevant to his wanting to own a team (the original topic). Donovan has gotten plenty of criticism, most of it unwarranted. He's a great qb and among the very elite.

I don't see that the criticism of Donovan is based on race (other than Rush's), btw. It's more based on stupid fans with the Ricky Bobby mentality I mentioned earlier (may have been in another thread). Marino got the same sort of criticism as did Elway, until late in his career. Coaches get it too. Both Dungy and Cowher got it until late in their careers and Schottenheimer never managed to shake it. All of those guys were great at what they did and consistently won throughout most of their careers.
 
dood... I am relaxed. It's a messageboard not a live argument. There is no emotion in this.

The left will "find" fodder no matter what, there is no reason to so clearly provide it for them.

so you support the suppression of speech.....and that all conservatives should walk in lockstep.....

and there is emotion on messageboards....to say that there is not, is to be totally at one with your teachings.....or to ignore that even in life one can be as one and online and one can be as argumentative....that said, me talking to you online can in fact engender emotions....to say that one cannot engender emotions on a messageboard negates much of the messageboard.....and what it means to be as one in life....what we type here is not in a vacuum....

IMO
 
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