So if today is not a red wave

You do realize most Presidents, even Trump, have speech writers. Do you really think Trump writes his own speeches?

Trump rarely wrote any speech. He just spoke. Trump can think on his feet, unlike Biden, who reads the punctuation on teleprompters and can't seem to pronounce words.
 
600,000 people who bother to vote are informed enough so they were well aware of his health issues before they voted. Anybody who makes their decision based on a debate is not very informed.

haha. untul you saw Fetterman lilve, you were not informed - you were being led around like a fucking moron
 
haha. untul you saw Fetterman lilve, you were not informed - you were being led around like a fucking moron

You make the unfounded assumption I support Fetterman or that I am defending him. No, I just informed you that his condition was well know and I did not follow his election that closely. I saw him speaking several times before the debate and it was clear he had a problem.

So, nobody was leading me around. I just don't whine about the media being responsible for everything. You seem to think if the debate was held earlier it would have changed people's opinion. You blame the media but obviously do not pay too much attention to it if you didn't see coverage of Fetterman.
 
Trump rarely wrote any speech. He just spoke. Trump can think on his feet, unlike Biden, who reads the punctuation on teleprompters and can't seem to pronounce words.
Trump can think on his feet :laugh:

I remember the time Hannity asked him about what he plans to do his second term, he rambled on about everything but what he planned to do and ended the answer by calling Bolton a name.

During his tenure when asked about his healthcare or infrastructure bills, he could give no details, just the usual answer of „big things“ or „lots of good stuff“. His administrators often quit because they claimed he was a moron.

Trump does not think, nor does he educate himself on the issues, he’s given lines to deliver.



































 
You make the unfounded assumption I support Fetterman or that I am defending him. No, I just informed you that his condition was well know and I did not follow his election that closely. I saw him speaking several times before the debate and it was clear he had a problem.

So, nobody was leading me around. I just don't whine about the media being responsible for everything. You seem to think if the debate was held earlier it would have changed people's opinion. You blame the media but obviously do not pay too much attention to it if you didn't see coverage of Fetterman.

no, his condition was not well known. We were led to believe his condition was under control and he was improving greatly. That is a huge lie.
 
no, I am gonna stick my initial belief - the media hid his condition - and even attacked the one journalist that was honest about it.

Anyone who lives in PA knows about Fetterman's health conditions and they don't care because they like him. He's never hidden them from anyone.
 
no, his condition was not well known. We were led to believe his condition was under control and he was improving greatly. That is a huge lie.

I never heard that except from his campaign organization and obviously they have to cover for him.

If you and I are aware of the issue certainly the people from PA are. If Fetterman wins it will not be because the debate was held too late or the media was hiding anything. He didn't have any strong competition--a guy from NJ whose colleagues claimed he gave quack medical advice.

Nothing was hidden from either side. It is who the voters choose, not the media. We could have predicted how most of the JPP posters were going to vote in 2022 based on how they voted in 2016. Political party affiliation has long been the most important factor determining how people vote. Even those 40% who claim to be independents almost always vote for one party.
 
Trump can think on his feet :laugh:

I remember the time Hannity asked him about what he plans to do his second term, he rambled on about everything but what he planned to do and ended the answer by calling Bolton a name.

During his tenure when asked about his healthcare or infrastructure bills, he could give no details, just the usual answer of „big things“ or „lots of good stuff“. His administrators often quit because they claimed he was a moron.

Trump does not think, nor does he educate himself on the issues, he’s given lines to deliver.




































...and the usual insults.
 
as we have been hearing and the right wing media has endlessly echoed, does that mean for the right, especially the MAGA militia, that the elections are automatically crooked and fraudulent?

If the GOP picks up say only twenty House seats and loses the Senate, did the Democrats cheat? What happens in those Senate races where it is predicted close if the vote isn’t counted or authorized for a few days, does that signal deception? If say Oz, Johnson, or Walker declare themselves winners tonight but tomorrow the actual vote shows they lost, were they cheating?

This is what we have come to, instead of a Democratic Republic, we are evolving into a Trump America, and some think that is great

I don't care about a wave. Today, the house has an 8 seat jackass majority. If the GOP can pick up 15 seats, the jackass legislative agenda is toast. If the senate goes red 51-49, I'm happy. If everything goes contrary to the laws of nature, physics, and politics and congress remains in the stranglehold of the donkeys (however tenuously), I promise I will no longer be an "election denier". I shall instead, sadly, fall back to the other alternative: jackasses are dumber than a bag of hammers.

If you pull this off by the skin of your 'taint's, remember that you, too are going to have to live with the economic and diplomatic consequences of your actions. Maybe someday you'll stop bashing yourselves in the genitals with a baseball bat because someone told you to stop, but your pride won't let you.
 
600,000 people who bother to vote are informed enough so they were well aware of his health issues before they voted. Anybody who makes their decision based on a debate is not very informed.

???.....anyone who ignores a debate and votes is even less informed...take for example Fetterman's insistence he has always opposed fracking AND always supported fracking.......
 
You make the unfounded assumption I support Fetterman or that I am defending him. No, I just informed you that his condition was well know and I did not follow his election that closely. I saw him speaking several times before the debate and it was clear he had a problem.

So, nobody was leading me around. I just don't whine about the media being responsible for everything. You seem to think if the debate was held earlier it would have changed people's opinion. You blame the media but obviously do not pay too much attention to it if you didn't see coverage of Fetterman.

so in essence, a person can ignore the debate and vote but only if they aren't in the same jurisdiction as the candidates who debated......
 
so in essence, a person can ignore the debate and vote but only if they aren't in the same jurisdiction as the candidates who debated......

Many debates are useless and many races do not have debates. In the presidential debates there was constant interruptions and I never learned much what either candidate had to say. I relied on what Trump said and did the previous four years. He was always on TV or tweeting so I based it on his direct words (not the media).

My main point is simply that most voters had probably already decided who they would vote for before any debates occurred and the debate did not change their mind. We can't wait for debates before we make voting decisions because they tell us almost nothing about the candidates except appearance and speaking style.
 
I don't care about a wave. Today, the house has an 8 seat jackass majority. If the GOP can pick up 15 seats, the jackass legislative agenda is toast. If the senate goes red 51-49, I'm happy. If everything goes contrary to the laws of nature, physics, and politics and congress remains in the stranglehold of the donkeys (however tenuously), I promise I will no longer be an "election denier". I shall instead, sadly, fall back to the other alternative: jackasses are dumber than a bag of hammers.

If you pull this off by the skin of your 'taint's, remember that you, too are going to have to live with the economic and diplomatic consequences of your actions. Maybe someday you'll stop bashing yourselves in the genitals with a baseball bat because someone told you to stop, but your pride won't let you.

The consequence of a Conservative President was a recession followed by a virus that killed 1,000,000 people and disabled 30,000,000 more, followed by a loss of 30M jobs.

But hey - you added $8T to the debt in 4 years. I'm old enough to remember when you all screamed at Obama for doing that in 8 years.
 
nonsense.

These are all real issues that Oz has. If Oz loses, it is because he had many, many issues in the eyes of the voters. You may want to ignore them, but many voters around here are not.

plenty of politicians live in an area for a few years before running for office.

Oz has yet to buy a house in the state, or even spend the night in the state. He comes, campaigns, and then flees back to NJ to sleep. That is not a good look.

And it does not need to be that way. Oz spends a huge amount on houses. It is the investment he understands, and favors. He literally owns two dozen houses. And yet he refuses to buy even one house in Pennsylvania? It is almost calculated to be insulting.
 
The consequence of a Conservative President was a recession followed by a virus that killed 1,000,000 people and disabled 30,000,000 more, followed by a loss of 30M jobs.
But hey - you added $8T to the debt in 4 years. I'm old enough to remember when you all screamed at Obama for doing that in 8 years.

:lolup:This is what I'm talking about.:lolup:

But hey - you added $8T to the debt in 4 years.

How? What were the GOP big budget busters that added to the debt?

I'm old enough to remember when you all screamed at Obama for doing that in 8 years.

Once again, what were the GOP big budget busters that added to the debt? This is a timeless curse of American politics. Jackasses get elected and all the sudden, we find all kinds of shit we've never had that we suddenly need as a matter of life and death. Usually, it's some expensive socialist bullshit that's going to be paid for by "taxing the rich". The GOP gets in, the rich dodge the taxes, :yay::bleh: :hand:, the GOP wants to cut spending anyway but they're stuck servicing the debt from the previous jackass administration (because in case you forgot, the federal budget is actually a LAW) AND they have to pay for all the other stuff. And it's all because you dumbasses are so bereft of ideas you have to buy votes.

And while you're at it, look up how many people have died on president potato head's watch.
 
:lolup:This is what I'm talking about.:lolup:

Apart from stripping kids naked so that Ted Cruz and Roy Moore can stare at their genitals, what policies do the Pervert Conservatives think they have that would do anything positive for the economy or country?

You had total control of DC and all you did with that control was blow a gigantic $2.5T hole in the budget while plunging the economy into a recession before any COVID lockdowns.
 
How? What were the GOP big budget busters that added to the debt?.

The Russia Tax Cut for starters.

You remember that one, right? You should because you were here on JPP running your big, fat fucking mouth about how much growth it would create.

Facts though show that Trump's best annual GDP growth couldn't even top Obama's best.

Oh, and you lost 30M jobs because you couldn't keep your big, fat, fucking lying mouth shut about COVID.

That big, fat, fucking mouth of yours also cost you the 2020 election. If you had shut the fuck up, Trump may have won.
 
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