NASA cancels Artemis Launch

The reminds me of how we bought multiple additional Ford Class carriers even as we cant get the first one to work.
 
NASA’s Artemis I mega moon rocket could face damaging winds as storm approaches
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https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/08/worl...urricane-tropical-storm-nicole-scn/index.html

So far NASA is refusing to roll it back again to the safety of the assembly building (4 miles) and has not scrubbed the Nov 14 launch attempt, which certainly will not be happening if the storm predictions are anywhere near right.....which they have not been to date. Nasa is desperate to try to get this thing off, as it has been assembled for a long time, and has gone through many fuelings...every day of waiting adds more risk of metal failure or some other catastrophic failure.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/08/worl...urricane-tropical-storm-nicole-scn/index.html

So far NASA is refusing to roll it back again to the safety of the assembly building (4 miles) and has not scrubbed the Nov 14 launch attempt, which certainly will not be happening if the storm predictions are anywhere near right.....which they have not been to date. Nasa is desperate to try to get this thing off, as it has been assembled for a long time, and has gone through many fuelings...every day of waiting adds more risk of metal failure or some other catastrophic failure.
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I'm sure Cape Canaveral seemed like an awesome spot for rocketry back in the day (my aunt n uncle enjoyed it, he worked there) but its wound up being a pretty shitty idea in hindsight. All my Florida family eventually moved elsewhere.
 
The process of rolling the Artemis I mission four miles back and forth, between the Vehicle Assembly Building and launch pad, puts a lot of stress on the vehicle. When it computes risk factors for the Artemis I launch vehicle, NASA has a certain budget for rollouts. The rocket has now been out to the pad on four separate occasions since this spring. While NASA has not confirmed this, according to a source, NASA has just one remaining roll in its budget. This does not mean the rocket will fall apart with additional roundtrips, it's just that additional movements would incrementally increase the risk of damage.
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https://arstechnica.com/science/202...-rocket-outside-as-nicole-approaches-florida/

What a clusterfuck.
 
Celticguy said:
I'm sure Cape Canaveral seemed like an awesome spot for rocketry back in the day (my aunt n uncle enjoyed it, he worked there) but its wound up being a pretty shitty idea in hindsight. All my Florida family eventually moved elsewhere.
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The location of the launch site is not the problem, the incompetence of NASA is the problem.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The location of the launch site is not the problem, the incompetence of NASA is the problem.
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um... hurricanes ?

hell, they've been known to cancel launch's over clouds ! its a skinny peninsula between HUGE bodies of water, there is always going to be humidity issues.

the scientists might suck too but the location was not a good idea.
 
Celticguy said:
um... hurricanes ?

hell, they've been known to cancel launch's over clouds ! its a skinny peninsula between HUGE bodies of water, there is always going to be humidity issues.

the scientists might suck too but the location was not a good idea.
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Trump had a solution, nuke the hurricane.
 
Celticguy said:
um... hurricanes ?

hell, they've been known to cancel launch's over clouds ! its a skinny peninsula between HUGE bodies of water, there is always going to be humidity issues.

the scientists might suck too but the location was not a good idea.
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That's what Vehicle Assembly Buildings and transporters are for....it has never been a problem.

Till now.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
That's what Vehicle Assembly Buildings and transporters are for....it has never been a problem.

Till now.
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Well I guess the lack of diesel isn't allowing them to drive it 4 miles away.

Another feather in his cap...

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Celticguy said:
and guess who saw to that ? kinda took the shine off wanting to join the best and the brightest.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/apr/15/obama-nasa-space-neil-armstrong
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It is not just about the lack of money, it is also about NASA making unwise plans....to include making unrealistic budgets......and that under OBAMA NASA like the military and CDC and a lot of other organizations had their managements neglect the mission so that they could instead invest their time into making their organizations WOKE.

You could see this disaster coming from years away, lots of people did.
 
Sensors at Pad 39B recorded peak wind gusts of 82 mph (132 kph) at an altitude of 60 feet (18 meters) during Nicole's passage, Free said.

Those wind speeds are "within the rocket's capability," he noted. "We anticipate clearing the vehicle for those conditions shortly."

Indeed, SLS is designed to handle winds up to 85 mph (137 kph) at the 60-foot level "with structural margin," NASA officials said in a statement on Tuesday (Nov. 8).
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https://www.space.com/artemis-1-moon-rocket-nicole-storm-damage-assessment

Thing is the winds were stronger higher up, and this thing is 322 feet. Plus it is a very open question if "designed to" means anything here.
 
Let me guess......did NASA cheap out and only test the wind at one spot? As incredibly stupid as that would be that sounds about like NASA 2022.
 
NASA managers have cleared the agency's leak-bedeviled Artemis moon rocket for the start of another countdown early Monday, but engineers must resolve questions about hurricane-damaged insulation before the huge booster can be cleared for blastoff on an unpiloted moonshot.

After multiple delays due to hydrogen fuel leaks and other glitches, along with the rocket's nail-biting brush with Hurricane Nicole last week, NASA managers met Sunday to review launch preparations and agreed to start a 47-hour 10-minute countdown at 1:54 a.m. EST Monday. Launch is planned for 1:04 a.m. Wednesday.

But high winds from Nicole caused a thin strip of caulk-like material known as RTV to delaminate and pull away from the base of the Orion crew capsule's protective nose cone at the top of the rocket.

The material is used to fill in a slight indentation where the fairing attaches to the capsule, minimizing aerodynamic heating during ascent. The fairing fits over the Orion capsule and is jettisoned once the rocket is out of the dense lower atmosphere.

"It was an area that was about 10 feet in length (on the) windward side where the storm blew through," said mission manager Mike Sarafin. "It is a very, very thin layer of RTV, it's about .2 inches or less ... in thickness."

Engineers do not have access for repairs at the pad and must develop "flight rationale," that is, a justification for flying despite the delaminated RTV, in order to proceed with the launch. Managers want to make sure any additional material that pulls away in flight will not impact and damage downstream components.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nasa-artemis-moon-rocket-launch-targeted-for-wednesday/



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