Is Bill Maher right about the end of democracy?

BidenPresident said:
fuck off asshole
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Fuck off, Massa.
 
BartenderElite said:
He has said that democracy is on the ballot next week - and that it will lose.
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There is no democracy. There never was in the United States. Redefinition fallacy (oligarchy<->democracy).

BartenderElite said:
He makes a persuasive case, and lest anyone think it's hyperbole,
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Hyperbole. There is no democracy in the United States and never was. The United States was organized as a federated republic.
BartenderElite said:
you really just have to look at history to see how authoritarian regimes took power.
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So...authority scares you. Gotit.
BartenderElite said:
In Maher's estimation, the GOP will take over Congress, and impeach Biden for everything until he's a complete lame duck.
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You are describing democrats and Trump. Inversion fallacy.
BartenderElite said:
Even if he can beat the Trump/Lake ticket at that point, it won't matter.
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Your confidence in your overlord is impressive.
BartenderElite said:
Trump will do the same thing that he did in '20,
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Give a stirring speech and describe the evils of Democrats and the Fake News media they control? Quite probably.
BartenderElite said:
but this time, with an "army of election deniers"
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No, you cannot erase the evidence of election fraud by Democrats that way!
BartenderElite said:
who are about to win next week & who will do for Trump what he couldn't get done last time.
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Paradox. You are being irrational. The 'election deniers' winning elections??????!?
BartenderElite said:
They'll "find" votes,
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You are describing Democrats again. Inversion fallacy.
BartenderElite said:
and do all of his other bidding to effectively overturn the will of the voters.
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You are describing Democrats again. Inversion fallacy.

BartenderElite said:
He cited the WI GOP governor candidate, who forgot his poker face & said Republicans will never lose another election if he wins.
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Fake News.

BartenderElite said:
He paints a pretty bleak picture beyond that.
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You are describing yourself. Inversion fallacy.
BartenderElite said:
Freedom of religion, other parts of the Bills of Rights, free & fair elections - we'll look back on all of those with nostalgia.
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We already do, thanks to the Democrats. Don't try to hide behind the Constitution you despise.

BartenderElite said:
And again: this has happened before in history, and it hasn't been that rare. You don't know what you've got, 'til it's gone.
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It's gone. Don't try to hide behind the Constitution you despise.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
No. I think he's overthinking it and underestimating a nation with more guns than people. Sure, some people are going to die because of all the political rhetoric but, in the end, all the right people will be killed and peace will return to the land.

Americans still believe in justice and fair play even when they're worried about their families.
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Your call for civil war is again noted.
 
BartenderElite said:
He has said that democracy is on the ballot next week - and that it will lose.

He makes a persuasive case, and lest anyone think it's hyperbole, you really just have to look at history to see how authoritarian regimes took power. In Maher's estimation, the GOP will take over Congress, and impeach Biden for everything until he's a complete lame duck. Even if he can beat the Trump/Lake ticket at that point, it won't matter. Trump will do the same thing that he did in '20, but this time, with an "army of election deniers" who are about to win next week & who will do for Trump what he couldn't get done last time. They'll "find" votes, and do all of his other bidding to effectively overturn the will of the voters.

He cited the WI GOP governor candidate, who forgot his poker face & said Republicans will never lose another election if he wins.

He paints a pretty bleak picture beyond that. Freedom of religion, other parts of the Bills of Rights, free & fair elections - we'll look back on all of those with nostalgia.

And again: this has happened before in history, and it hasn't been that rare. You don't know what you've got, 'til it's gone.
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100%
 
BidenPresident said:
Amazing people won't talk about a speech by President Biden.

But, Bill Maher has a TV show!
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For the very reason Mahar is saying, Biden is talking on one level that average Americans can’t relate, as he explained it, Americans don’t what they could lose when they don’t even know what it is
 
archives said:
For the very reason Mahar is saying, Biden is talking on one level that average Americans can’t relate, as he explained it, Americans don’t what they could lose when they don’t even know what it is
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I don't believe Americans are this stupid, I really do not. And Maher is just a crank that only right wing libertarians take seriously.
 
BidenPresident said:
I don't believe Americans are this stupid, I really do not. And Maher is just a crank that only right wing libertarians take seriously.
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Not a question of being stupid, although with Trump in 2015 makes one wonder, but lack of understanding or concern, bread and butter issues draw more attention than talking about abstract concepts
 
archives said:
Not a question of being stupid, although with Trump in 2015 makes one wonder, but lack of understanding or concern, bread and butter issues draw more attention than talking about abstract concepts
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Sick of hearing about goddam bread and butter. Christ, are we all in a jail cell?!
 
BidenPresident said:
Sick of hearing about goddam bread and butter. Christ, are we all in a jail cell?!
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You are, but the average guy retuning from the grocery store isn’t, and as Mahar said, that guy don’t want to hear about the complexities and real reasons for inflation, he just wants it over, and some politicians tell them they have the answers
 
Biden tells them the truth and they do not like it. We did not cause inflation but have managed to keep it below many other countries. It is a world problem.
 
archives said:
You are, but the average guy retuning from the grocery store isn’t, and as Mahar said, that guy don’t want to hear about the complexities and real reasons for inflation, he just wants it over, and some politicians tell them they have the answers
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People are much too willing to forgive themselves for being ignorant.

The "average guy," whom I call Joe Sixpack [Thank you, Sarah Palin--you thought it was a compliment, you stupid schifosa] shouldn't have a vote if he's content to be an unsophisticated voter.
 
archives said:
BidenPresident said:
Sick of hearing about goddam bread and butter. Christ, are we all in a jail cell?!
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You are, but the average guy retuning from the grocery store isn’t, and as Mahar said, that guy don’t want to hear about the complexities and real reasons for inflation, he just wants it over, and some politicians tell them they have the answers
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Despite BP's excellent Marie Antoinette impression, the reality for American couples and families is that when their costs exceed their income, then they quickly start facing hungry kids and being evicted.

Most American adults would find this disturbing. Princesses and Queens, not so much.

It's not necessary that the rich and powerful of our nation pay less taxes than most American workers. Even Romney made a clear point about the discrepancy, noting he paid less taxes than his secretary.

https://www.zippia.com/advice/how-many-americans-live-paycheck-to-paycheck/
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https://www.statista.com/chart/19635/wealth-distribution-percentiles-in-the-us/
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