Diesel supply in US at 25 days

Walt said:
I do not live in a city.

But I would not think wood pellets would be a good idea for cities like New York. They are very polluting, and in dense population centers that can be a huge health hazard.
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While there are, it is a step backwards two centuries to be using them.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Have you been paying attention to how some states are conducting a war against logging, and that American home building is in the pits so a lot less lumber is needed?
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That's a problem with lefty states. So more wood will be harvested in my great state.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Are you sure Heating Oil is the way of the future?

Sounds like it costs more money now than other ways to heat your home or you live in a McMansion!

That's too high for my wallet.

But good luck!
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At 2200 square feet, including the bedroom basement, I wouldn't call my cabin a mansion. I designed, built in 2005 with energy efficiency being a top priority. It is well insulated, with a Burnham high efficiency oil boiler for heat and hot water. No energy-wasting chimney. The boiler is located in my insulated basement garage and the stainless steel vent passes 15 feet horizontally over the conditioned portion of the basement, increasing the efficiency above its stated rating. At its stated rating, current fuel cost, I estimate a net output of 21,600 net BTU per dollar. With my setup, I may get a bit more, say 22,800.

I also have a co-axial vented propane stove, Vermont Castings so highest quality and efficiency. Net BTU/$ is 20,900, so that costs a little more to run than fuel oil.

Since we have cold winters here at high elevation heat pumps are wishful thinking. They go into full electric mode, and the cost of a KWH here in the mountains (TVA sourced) is twice what it it in the Piedmont (with Duke Energy). Most homes here are part-time use "vacation" homes and were built all-electric, without forward thinking of heating costs, and the owners pay dearly during the heating season. In fact on cold weekends they use so much electricity, that the voltage drop is a big issue to commercial users here.
 
MAGA MAN said:
Nope. Manufacturing lumber has always been a huge waste-producing industry. Sawdust, branches, off-cuts, bark...
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You must have missed the part where I showed the manufacturing process and the plants doing it... Because they aren't using waste products.
 
MAGA MAN said:
In fact on cold weekends they use so much electricity, that the voltage drop is a big issue to commercial users here.
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Voltage drop? How does the voltage drop? Voltage in an AC electrical system is constant, it is amperage and inductance that vary (the combination is impeded load).
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Yea, sure... That's what they said 50 years ago and we keep finding more of it. Oil is a renewable natural resource too. We can also make oil from biomass like algae.
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Oh, dear. It sounds like you need to read up on our oil supply, and also whether we can produce enough from algae for even a fraction of the world.

These kinds of denialist statements won't do humanity any good. We have to be real about this very finite resource, that we use more of each year.
 
BartenderElite said:
Oh, dear. It sounds like you need to read up on our oil supply, and also whether we can produce enough from algae for even a fraction of the world.

These kinds of denialist statements won't do humanity any good. We have to be real about this very finite resource, that we use more of each year.
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The bottom of our oceans is littered with millions of tons of frozen methane, the precursor to making more oil. Diatoms are the main source of that methane.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/11/051107083255.htm
https://cage.uit.no/2017/06/06/dome...this case,area have a lot of hydrates in them.
https://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/ex10years/stories/methane.html

This methane is eventually covered by sediment and over time is crushed. The heat and pressure from that forms it into longer chain hydrocarbons that become oil eventually. It is a continuous process going on. That's science. Oil is not a "finite" resource.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Better go out and chop some wood like they're doing in Europe. Nothing like reliable 18th Century technology to come to the rescue...
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I had a White Lib try to sell me whale oil to light my home. They claimed it was a green renewable resource.

:)
 
T. A. Gardner said:
You must have missed the part where I showed the manufacturing process and the plants doing it... Because they aren't using waste products.
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Yep :thup:

NOW, they strip mine whole forests. Taking crooked trees and young trees that lumber mills would never buy or use. They don't even leave broken branches behind for the critters.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Voltage drop? How does the voltage drop? Voltage in an AC electrical system is constant, it is amperage and inductance that vary (the combination is impeded load).
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They try to keep voltage constant, but if there is not enough power for the energy demand, then the voltage will drop. It is often called a brownout, which is similar to a blackout, but you still get some power.

I think it says a lot about how good a job America has done of keeping the lights on that you have never heard of a voltage drop.
 
Bigdog said:
I had a White Lib try to sell me whale oil to light my home. They claimed it was a green renewable resource.
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Whale oil would be prohibitively expensive, even if it were legal to sell. In short, you are a liar.
 
And this is why all us preppers laugh when you call us crazy 'doomsday preppers' for stocking up and for becoming self-sufficient.

I'm looking forward to this winter, got my wood chopped, my solar panels cleaned, and my new insulation installed. Have fun, y'all.
 
Walt said:
Whale oil would be prohibitively expensive, even if it were legal to sell. In short, you are a liar.
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You're such a dick, Walt. I was joking. There are no door to door whale oil salesmen, you idiot.

Thanks to the Oil and Coal companies that you hate, we no longer use wood to heat our homes, or whale oil to light them.

Now go buy some over-priced solar panels and wind mills from your Chinese masters, dickhead. And an EV produced by child labor in the cobalt mines. :palm:
 
Walt said:
They try to keep voltage constant, but if there is not enough power for the energy demand, then the voltage will drop. It is often called a brownout, which is similar to a blackout, but you still get some power.

I think it says a lot about how good a job America has done of keeping the lights on that you have never heard of a voltage drop.
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I know how voltage can drop in a large AC generation system, in fact I have first-hand experience dealing with it. That wasn't what the poster I addressed stated, or he wasn't clear in what he did state.
Even so, it says more about the company generating the power and their inability to operate their equipment properly, or the poor condition of the US grid that they were unable to meet demand.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The bottom of our oceans is littered with millions of tons of frozen methane, the precursor to making more oil. Diatoms are the main source of that methane.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/11/051107083255.htm
https://cage.uit.no/2017/06/06/dome...this case,area have a lot of hydrates in them.
https://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/ex10years/stories/methane.html

This methane is eventually covered by sediment and over time is crushed. The heat and pressure from that forms it into longer chain hydrocarbons that become oil eventually. It is a continuous process going on. That's science. Oil is not a "finite" resource.
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You dismiss wind & solar - but think that something we have never even tried on a mass scale is the answer for the future?

A whole lotta wishful thinking there. I'm not prepared to wager humanity's future on that.
 
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