Covid Follies #8: the more you know.

Taichiliberal said:
Does this mean that you're just avoiding all the points I made and regurgitating your myopic mumblings? Seems like it.

Long before Youtube you had alternative radio, you kept abreast of more than one news source and you used critical thinking and common sense.

Stop tryng to paint me as paranoid just because the FACTS don't fit into your belief system. You can't disprove the FACTS of the OP, so you try to BS past them. You can't disprove my previous response, so you just double down on your bull horn.

Typical corporate wonk dodges and smoke blowing. I'd expected better of you.
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I don't have a belief system about medical issues. I am just trying to determine how we should handle medical problems since we can't rely on doctors or medicine according to you.

Which of the many YouTube videos do I choose to believe? They are all over the place and I don't have the medical knowledge to pick one over another. One claims the vaccine will make me magnetic. One Nobel prize winner says I will die in two years. Another tells me vaccine side effects are a "good thing." Another (the president of Brazil) tells me the vaccine will turn people into crocodiles.
 
Flash said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Does this mean that you're just avoiding all the points I made and regurgitating your myopic mumblings? Seems like it.

Long before Youtube you had alternative radio, you kept abreast of more than one news source and you used critical thinking and common sense.

Stop tryng to paint me as paranoid just because the FACTS don't fit into your belief system. You can't disprove the FACTS of the OP, so you try to BS past them. You can't disprove my previous response, so you just double down on your bull horn.

Typical corporate wonk dodges and smoke blowing. I'd expected better of you.
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I don't have a belief system about medical issues. I am just trying to determine how we should handle medical problems since we can't rely on doctors or medicine according to you.

Which of the many YouTube videos do I choose to believe? They are all over the place and I don't have the medical knowledge to pick one over another. One claims the vaccine will make me magnetic. One Nobel prize winner says I will die in two years. Another tells me vaccine side effects are a "good thing." Another (the president of Brazil) tells me the vaccine will turn people into crocodiles.
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Let me just demolish your disingenuous, misleading BS starting with your first paragraph.

1. The OP deals in FACTS, NOT "beliefs"...so far, you avoid discussing those facts in favor of generalized talking points from Big Pharma, Fauci and the MSM. That speaks VOLUMES on your mindset of the subject.

2. I NEVER stated, insinuated or alluded that " ... we can't rely on doctors or medicine..." That is a bald faced lie on your part, as the chronology of the post will show any objective, rational reader.

Your last paragraph is just an amalgamation of attempted distortions of the topic at hand. As I did in posts #4, #14 and #18, I am dealing with the reality of bad treatment choices and a denial of medical facts that do not fit the semi profit driven goals of the current status quo. YOU have demonstrated intellectual dishonesty and denial of evidence. So be it.
 
Taichiliberal said:
1. The OP deals in FACTS, NOT "beliefs"...so far, you avoid discussing those facts in favor of generalized talking points from Big Pharma, Fauci and the MSM. That speaks VOLUMES on your mindset of the subject.
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"Facts" according to the Florida Surgeon General. Aren't there a lot of facts and studies that disagree?

"Starting with Alex Jones....." Is this his standard for truth?
 
Flash said:
"Facts" according to the Florida Surgeon General. Aren't there a lot of facts and studies that disagree?

"Starting with Alex Jones....." Is this his standard for truth?
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WTF are you babbling about? The Surgeon General makes a report...it coincides with medical reports from Sweden...the status quo tried to shut him down on the net IN VIOLATION OF THEIR OWN RULES.

Again, YOU CANNOT LOGICALLY OR FACTUALLY DISPROVE what the Florida SG stated, so you just blow all types of absurd smoke.

Posts #4, #14 and #18, dear readers. Seems junior here is nothing but an intellectual FLASH in the pan.

Alex Jones? Seriously? Talk about stretch to dodge the issue. :rolleyes: GTFU, will ya please?
 
The greatest enemy in the control of the pandemic is the immunological ignorance of our leading scientific, public health and regulatory experts

Geert Vanden Bossche

On rare occasions I read some vaccine talk produced by mainstream journalists. It is interesting to see how in light of the continuing series of disappointing vaccine experiments on humans they cautiously begin to balance their remaining critical thinking faculties with the mainstream narrative that dominated their views for so long. The recent article: ‘Updated Covid-19 vaccines boost protection, but may not beat original formula against BA.4 and BA.5, early studies suggest ‘ is one such marvelous example.(https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/26/health/updated-boosters-omicron-imprint/index.html)

Since I am much better at mastering the science than I am the language, I am going to provide science-based critiques to the big gaps in the immunological interpretation of the data reported on the first bivalent booster studies. I’ll share my comments to the cited interpretations of leading scientists and experts, however I’ll refrain from citing their names as I have no intention to ridicule these individuals—I only intend to point out the immunological ignorance of those still officially referred to as acknowledged key opinion leaders and decision makers in the field. Their immunological ignorance is now inspiring further efforts to fight evil (mass vaccination) with more evil (mass vaccination with updated vaccines)—a recipe for disaster that will certainly end the pandemic the ‘hard’ way. Nature will ultimately teach them how immunology works, and unfortunately not before massive damage is inflicted by the mass vaccination experiment. Before I get to the specific comments uttered by our leading ‘experts’ and cited within this article, I’ll open with a mind-boggling statement made by the journalist to first give a “masterclass” of softs in immunology to these very leading ‘experts’:
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Conclusion: Given the deep immunological incompetence of our leading scientific, public health and regulatory experts, one can easily predict that there will be many more plans for empiricism and injecting yet other experimental formulations than there are lucid brains. We should not forget, though, that mankind has never been in control of this pandemic and that this is even less the case as their rational experimentation continues. Indeed, the more man mismanages the pandemic by scientifically irrational immune interventions, the more (and the faster) the virus is evolving towards teaching a lesson in immunology that will hopefully be remembered by the future generation of scientists to come.History, however, will not be as mild as I am with the quotes of those who thought to learn from inconsiderate and dangerous experiments conducted on humans.
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https://www.voiceforscienceandsolid...ientific-public-health-and-regulatory-experts
 
Taichiliberal said:
Alex Jones? Seriously? Talk about stretch to dodge the issue. :rolleyes: GTFU, will ya please?
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He was referring to shutting down Alex Jone's telling everybody the "truth." If he condemns those who exposed Alex Jones then his interpretation of the truth is not creditable. It is not dodging the issue, it is showing you who this guy is.
 
Flash said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post

1. The OP deals in FACTS, NOT "beliefs"...so far, you avoid discussing those facts in favor of generalized talking points from Big Pharma, Fauci and the MSM. That speaks VOLUMES on your mindset of the subject.
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"Facts" according to the Florida Surgeon General. Aren't there a lot of facts and studies that disagree?

"Starting with Alex Jones....." Is this his standard for truth?
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Don't be an ass! Anyone who listens to the entire video knows that Dore was pointing to Twitter extremes regarding banning people. "It starts with Alex Jones then goes to . He pointed out that the good doctor was the most renowned in his field internationally. But as soon as he goes against Fauci & company, he's banned.
Kind of extreme comparison, but there are those who are against any and all censorship. Dore's point is that if folk are against the Florida surgeon general's statements...MAKE THEIR CASE AGAINST HIM...PUBLIC DISCUSSION. Then people can make a decision for themselves based on all the facts.

You've have demonstrated here an intellectually dishonesty regarding this subject. You don't DARE discuss content, you seem to think a generalized character assassination will suffice.

Hint: it doesn't. But like all intellectually impotent pro-corporate/jab wonks, you'll just regurgitate the SOS ad nausea. Let me know when you're ready to discuss what Dore is reporting on (i.e., content) and NOT Dore's personal commentary (which he goes to great lengths to tell you which is which). Carry on.
 
Life is Golden said:
So many have been bought out by the big hospitals they are essentially now sheep parroting a line. People should learn and be their own advocates.
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That may be, but there are more than enough honest doctors & medical researchers for the average person to seek out on radio and in print (also the net, but I prefer earlier methods). If there wasn't, the OP wouldn't exist.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
evasion.
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Man, what IS your problem? We agree on something, yet you STILL want to pick a fight where there is none.
I respond accordingly and use facts coupled with critical thinking. My political/social ideology differs from yours on issues, but there are things we agree on, like the OP.

I can live with that. So I'd say we're done here, and leave you to the last word.
 
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