A Typical Exchange with a Climate Alarmist/Forced Energy Transformationist

Hawkeye10 said:
Right, and remember how the Greeks were sure that too easy a life ruins men were as too hard a life does not.

This is about too much easy living off of technology, this is about the rotting out of the quality of humans.

And now we pay for it, as Winter is here.
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You lunatics would have us return to the stone age.
 
Increasing droughts and flooding? Fallacies if you want to examine the long term data. The ‘energy transition’ is bad economics and bad ‘environmentalism.’ Global greening and energy density are pro environment.
intermittent technologies are eco-disruptive.
 
When people stop telling me what to do and hurting me if I fail to follow their commands properly THEN I will calm down!
 
I never dreamed that I would live to see an America this rotted out when I was a kid.

I am disappointed.
 
The WOKE demand that we join them in their Cult Suicide Pact

I refuse, and I encourage you to do the same.

STEVE
 
T. A. Gardner said:
No, it's not. Just remember these facts:

We didn't know about plate tectonics until the late 1950's.
We had no idea what the bottom of our oceans looked like until the 1960's.
In 1920 oil was the next big thing in energy
In 1820 coal was the next big thing in energy
In 1720 we chopped down forests for energy
Other galaxies weren't proved as existing until the 1920's

The point is, that much of the science the public takes for granted is very young, new, and often wrong. Gorebal Warming is a perfect example of that. What we don't know would fill a big box store. What we do know fills a teacup. The so-called climate scientists should be taken with a large bag of salt.
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I didn't mention global warming in my post. And if you don't see the warnings around us about sustainability, I don't know what to tell you. Habitat is disappearing at unprecedented rates, we're in the middle of a mass extinction, the oceanic food supply is about a decade or so from being on the brink. None of what we do is sustainable.
 
Primavera said:
Too many people, that's the real issue. If you weren't so stupid you'd know that. Time to start culling humans, care to be a volunteer?
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Did you see "procreating" in my comments? I agree w/ you on that, and have before. We don't always have to disagree.

The earth will take care of humanity if we don't change. But it doesn't have to be extreme; we just need population controls moving forward. We won't do it, but it's what we'd need to do.
 
BartenderElite said:
I didn't mention global warming in my post. And if you don't see the warnings around us about sustainability, I don't know what to tell you. Habitat is disappearing at unprecedented rates, we're in the middle of a mass extinction, the oceanic food supply is about a decade or so from being on the brink. None of what we do is sustainable.
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You certainly implied it with your post. 90% of what's happening to cause habitat to disappear or degrade, oceanic pollution, deforestation, and related issues can be traced back to the Third World.

For example, in Brazil it isn't some mining company responsibly operating a mine on say 10,000 acres of land for 50 years, it's the poor doing slash and burn agriculture and illegal logging that are gobbling up the Amazon basin and deforesting it. Places like Madagascar have been denuded of forest for the wood to cook and heat with. Oil and coal, like it or not, saved millions of trees from becoming firewood.
Moving to plastics, metals, and composite materials has saved us from using far more natural resources in wood and produced through costly agriculture.

It is the Third World, living in destitute poverty that's the problem, and money alone won't fix that.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
You certainly implied it with your post. 90% of what's happening to cause habitat to disappear or degrade, oceanic pollution, deforestation, and related issues can be traced back to the Third World.

For example, in Brazil it isn't some mining company responsibly operating a mine on say 10,000 acres of land for 50 years, it's the poor doing slash and burn agriculture and illegal logging that are gobbling up the Amazon basin and deforesting it. Places like Madagascar have been denuded of forest for the wood to cook and heat with. Oil and coal, like it or not, saved millions of trees from becoming firewood.
Moving to plastics, metals, and composite materials has saved us from using far more natural resources in wood and produced through costly agriculture.

It is the Third World, living in destitute poverty that's the problem, and money alone won't fix that.
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What verbiage in my post implied it?
 
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