Drown them or burn them?

Anton Krasovsky, chief of Russian-language broadcasting at RT, has called for Ukrainian children to be “drowned” or “burned” during an interview on the state-funded channel.

“Drown them,” he told Russian viewers.

In the interview - which was pre-recorded and edited before being broadcast - Krasovsky suggested as an alternative that such children should be “shoved into their huts and burned”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ovsky-accused-of-inciting-genocide-in-ukraine

Mr Krasovsky has since been suspended by RT for being off message. He should have known that the Kremlin-approved method of liberating Ukrainians is to freeze them.
 
Talk is one matter- actually burning people alive is something else entirely;

UKRAINIAN authorities imposed a curfew in the eastern city of Odessa today, with citizens banned from leaving their homes to mark Moday’s anniversary of a fire in 2014 that killed more than 40 people.

“Obviously, this decision of the authorities is due to the fact that May 2 is a very important date for the inhabitants of Odessa,” the Repression of the Left Telegram channel said.

On that day, a least 48 trade unionists were burned alive as they took shelter from supporters of the US-backed Maidan coup, while police were filmed firing their guns into the trade union building.

No-one has been held accountable for the atrocities, despite footage identifying the perpetrators and the names of many of those responsible allegedly being known to the Ukrainian authorities.

Many were trapped inside as crowds below chanted “burn Colorado burn,” a reference to the pro-Russian colours of ribbons worn by some of the protesters.

As the fire tore through the building, the Ukrainian national anthem was sung by those gathered outside, taunting the trapped people as they burned to death.








https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/ukrainian-authorities-block-memorial-odessa-massacre

Remember your own hypocrisy, as you trawl your favorite biased sources for anti-Russian propaganda
 
Talk is one matter- actually burning people alive is something else entirely;

Remember your own hypocrisy, as you trawl your favorite biased sources for anti-Russian propaganda

It is impossible to invent any pro-Russian sentiment when they are killing innocent civilians and attacking another sovereign nation.
 
It is impossible to invent any pro-Russian sentiment when they are killing innocent civilians and attacking another sovereign nation.


The Zelenskies attacked the pro-Russian Ukrainians for eight years after the US led coup. 14, 000 people died. Where were you then ?

Sorry to shrivel your pious figleaf. Not.

And where's your condemnation of Israel ? The hypocrisy is palpable.
 
The Zelenskies attacked the pro-Russian Ukrainians for eight years after the US led coup. 14, 000 people died. Where were you then ?

Sorry to shrivel your pious figleaf. Not.

And where's your condemnation of Israel ? The hypocrisy is palpable.

You think I would have approved killing anyone? No, I'm not like you that justifies murder. I don't remember a thread discussing that topic on JPP or I would have made my opposition clear.
 
On that day, a least 48 trade unionists were burned alive as they took shelter from supporters of the US-backed Maidan coup, while police were filmed firing their guns into the trade union building.

No-one has been held accountable for the atrocities, despite footage identifying the perpetrators and the names of many of those responsible allegedly being known to the Ukrainian authorities.
tell me again why we (USA) are in the middle of this eastern European shit storm?
 
You think I would have approved killing anyone? No, I'm not like you that justifies murder. I don't remember a thread discussing that topic on JPP or I would have made my opposition clear.

Now is your opportunity. The Russians claimed to aim to rid Ukraine of neo-Nazism. In the light of what the Azov Nazis did, can you manage to squeeze out any " sentiment " for their Russian victims ?
 
tell me again why we (USA) are in the middle of this eastern European shit storm?

Because Ukraine borders NATO countries.

To me (and I could be wrong) it looks like Putin wants to use Ukraine as a DMZ between Russia and the West.

The problem with that is that Ukraine feeds Russia and much of Europe, they are the farmers. It makes no sense to me.
 
Anton Krasovsky, chief of Russian-language broadcasting at RT, has called for Ukrainian children to be “drowned” or “burned” during an interview on the state-funded channel.

“Drown them,” he told Russian viewers.

In the interview - which was pre-recorded and edited before being broadcast - Krasovsky suggested as an alternative that such children should be “shoved into their huts and burned”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ovsky-accused-of-inciting-genocide-in-ukraine

Mr Krasovsky has since been suspended by RT for being off message. He should have known that the Kremlin-approved method of liberating Ukrainians is to freeze them.

There is so much evil in this world. This is what happens when a superpower cedes power to one madman. We almost did it here, and many twumptards still want to.
 
Talk is one matter- actually burning people alive is something else entirely;



Remember your own hypocrisy, as you trawl your favorite biased sources for anti-Russian propaganda

Such propaganda. Is Putin paying you, you misguided douche-nozzle?
 
Talk is one matter- actually burning people alive is something else entirely;



Remember your own hypocrisy, as you trawl your favorite biased sources for anti-Russian propaganda

EIGHT YEARS AGO...UNDER THE OBAMA ADM. HERE...AND THE CURRENT PRES.MORON.
 
The Zelenskies attacked the pro-Russian Ukrainians for eight years after the US led coup. 14, 000 people died. Where were you then ?

Sorry to shrivel your pious figleaf. Not.

And where's your condemnation of Israel ? The hypocrisy is palpable.
Ukraine is a sovereign country they have every right to drive the Russian invaders out
 
Originally Posted by LurchAddams - a manservant.
Erdogan's not going to join NATO. Are you high? He's an authoritarian dictator, NATO's not going to want anything to do with the fuck.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?193558-Erdogan-pulls-rug-from-under-Putin
Post #2

Haw, haw.................................haw.

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Fire in Odessa

In May 2014, after violent clashes in Odessa between pro-Russian and pro-Ukrainian factions, some of the pro-Russians retreated to the Soviet-era trade union building (they were not trade unionists as some sources claim). The building caught fire and 42 people died.

This is cited in some quarters as the work of “Ukrainian Nazis”. Here is an account of what happened, by the BBC (abbreviated):


The violence erupted as fans marching before a football match were ambushed by pro-Russian activists, eyewitnesses say. Hardline fans of both teams had agreed to hold a joint march to support a united Ukraine. Some were veteran supporters of Kiev's Maidan protest movement and/or part of the right-wing Pravy Sektor. But eyewitness accounts and videos suggest that many were just ordinary members of the public.

The marchers may have suspected trouble in a city with an ethnic Russian minority of around 30%. But as Nadiya Yashan told Ukrainian television: "We never expected an ambush on such a scale and the police to do so little."

Bogdan, who was part of the fans' march, told the BBC: "People started to walk, they were attacked by these guys in army helmets with baseball bats. Some of them had guns." A video on YouTube purporting to show the start of the violence suggests that police stood by as pro-Russian activists armed themselves with batons and other weapons.

Other reports suggested some of the activists on both sides were well-armed and well-protected - clubs, metal bars, air pistols, baseball bats and body armour, shields and helmets. A YouTube video appears to show a line of riot police shielding pro-Russian activists, one of whom fires a gun while chunks of paving stone rain down from the crowd on the other side.

A number of reports also spoke of armed protesters using the rooftop of the Afina shopping centre to fire pistols and throw Molotov cocktails. There seems little doubt that the gunshots and reports of casualties fuelled the anger of the pro-Ukrainian crowd.

Police said at least three people were shot dead in the running battles before the deadly fire at the Trade Unions House. Over the next few hours the clashes fragmented but a key development appeared to be a move by pro-Ukrainians against the tent city in Kulykovo Pole square.

Serhiy said: "People started streaming toward the station, taking Zhukovskoho Street and then taking Pushkinska Street. They chanted 'Long live Ukraine!' and 'Odessa is Ukrainian!'" He said tents in the pro-Russian camp were burning when he arrived and those there had moved to the entrance of the nearby Trade Unions House.

There was hand-to-hand fighting in the building although, again, it appeared the police did little to intervene. Television pictures and reports suggest both sides were throwing Molotov cocktails. Pro-Ukrainians reported that the pro-Russians were armed and firing pistols and rifles from the upper floors.

It remains unclear how the fire started on the third floor. Pictures clearly showed pro-Ukrainians throwing Molotov cocktails towards the floor. But Serhiy said he saw someone "on the third floor throw a Molotov cocktail through the closed window. However, the glass didn't break and a fire started inside".

People struggled to get out of the smoke-filled floor. Some people got to ledges and were helped by ambulance ladders. Some fell. Some people were reported to have shouted "die" as people fell.

In the aftermath, Ukraine's Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk had some angry words for the security forces, saying they were "inefficient and they violated the law".

The failings of the security forces appear to be one of the few things people agree on.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27275383
 
Ukrainian rightists burn alive 39 at Odessa union building

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/ukrainian-rightists-burn-alive-39-at-odessa-union-building/

EU position on the massacre in Odessa

On 2 May, a massacre took place in Odessa in front of and inside the Trade Unions House, which, according to the official figures, left 48 people dead. However, according to unofficial estimates, the real number of victims could be as high as 150, apart from the hundreds of people who were wounded and narrowly survived the massacre. The dead are all ethnic Russians with Ukrainian nationality.

The official version issued by the Ukrainian authorities has been widely called into question. However, the authorities in Kiev and Odessa have not, as far as we know, carried out any detailed investigation, nor identified any of the perpetrators.

A number of clues suggest that it was not, as claimed, the fire in the building that killed those who had sought refuge there to avoid being massacred in the streets: instead they had been shot or killed in some other manner. There are videos apparently showing police officers firing on desperate people trying to escape through the windows, and all the available evidence indicates that the attackers intended to kill.
Given this unacceptable bloodshed, will the Commission say whether it intends to issue a strong condemnation of the incident and adopt foreign policies that will help prevent such tragic events recurring in future?

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2014-008919_EN.html

Although several alleged perpetrators were prosecuted, there has yet to be a trial.[30] In 2015, the International Advisory Panel of the Council of Europe concluded the investigation's independence was hampered by "evidence indicative of police complicity"[31] and that Ukrainian authorities failed to thoroughly investigate the events.[32]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odesa_clashes


Talk is one matter. Actually burning people alive is quite something else.
 
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