Government motors post clunker sales down 47%

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What a pity. It marks you out, for ever, as an ignorant bloody fool.
Tom is Irish, you might like to share that nonsense with him.
BTW the very act of having tattoos would make you virtually unemployable in many markets.
I notice you have a gun, a piece of clover and a cabbage. Is that significant?
Long live terrorists, eh Cap'n?
 
What a pity. It marks you out, for ever, as an ignorant bloody fool.
Tom is Irish, you might like to share that nonsense with him.
BTW the very act of having tattoos would make you virtually unemployable in many markets.
I notice you have a gun, a piece of clover and a cabbage. Is that significant?
Long live terrorists, eh Cap'n?

Why would tattoo's make him "virtually unemployable in many markets"??
 
What a pity. It marks you out, for ever, as an ignorant bloody fool.
Tom is Irish, you might like to share that nonsense with him.
BTW the very act of having tattoos would make you virtually unemployable in many markets.
I notice you have a gun, a piece of clover and a cabbage. Is that significant?
Long live terrorists, eh Cap'n?

It's a rose, not a cabbage. And yes, that was my unit patch when I was deployed. Funny you keep calling me a terrorist. And I have no problem getting a job with all ten of my tattoos.

Since you're not well versed in American history I'll key you in on the significance of some of those items. The sword is the Mameluke sword, given to Marine 2ndLT Pressely O'Bannon (Sounds like he was a Mick eh?) for fighting the Barbary pirates in 1804. The pistol is the famous Colt 1911 designed by John Moses Browning and served with the U.S. military for almost a century (1911-1986). As a gunsmith and firearms expert I naturally love to look of the gun. The other one, obviously an AK-47 is the gun of freedom fighters world wide, so naturally any freedom loving American would want one. And the rose and shamrock is a tribute to me and my wife (the rose representing her Spanish heritage.).
 
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It's a rose, not a cabbage. And yes, that was my unit patch when I was deployed. Funny you keep calling me a terrorist. And I have no problem getting a job with all ten of my tattoos.

I've had tats for over 30 years and they never stopped me from getting a job I wanted, nor did they ever cost me a job I had.
 
Why would tattoo's make him "virtually unemployable in many markets"??

Quite simple. Because many of those who run companies consider tattoos to be the mark of the criminal or the fool and would therefore find it difficult to invest money in such a person. They may well be wrong. Probably are. But it is they who pay the salaries not the tattooed. Oh now you are going to tell me that such and such a company mogul has tattoos. We can all find exceptions and as usual they prove the rule. Service tattoos are usually an exception, by the way.
However my main point, and it wasn't to you, was that overt declarations such as his, are likely to brand him either as a terrorist or certainly a terrorist sympathiser. I would guess that, much against his false belief, there would be few places in Ireland that would make him welcome.
I guess if he stays in America he will be Ok. After all there is not much to pick between any of you in the intelligence stakes.
 
they might be required in the trades,
seems lowaice is talking about professional jobs.

I think the rose one rocks
 
they might be required in the trades,
seems lowaice is talking about professional jobs.

I think the rose one rocks

The difference is that, when assessing a candidates worth, one considers the financial benefits the person might bring to the company and pays accordingly. At lower grades where, perhaps, tattoos are not an issue, the employer pays the least he can get away with.
A man who brands himself a football hooligan, a terrorist supporter or a member of a minority political party, is likely to have to work much harder to prove himself than the non-branded man.
Now, if marking yourself with signs of violence and stupidity are more important to you than a career, then thats fine by me. But don't whine and complain when you are overlooked for promotion.
 
I'm anti tat myself, which is prop wrong.

For dad's with teenage boys. Mine wanted an earring at like 14. I'm driving with him and his cousin in the back seat. His cousin says he wants the diamon, I say great. Cause I can afford that, but not that and his car insurance etc.
Guess what no diamond, tats never came up.
 
Quite simple. Because many of those who run companies consider tattoos to be the mark of the criminal or the fool and would therefore find it difficult to invest money in such a person. They may well be wrong. Probably are. But it is they who pay the salaries not the tattooed. Oh now you are going to tell me that such and such a company mogul has tattoos. We can all find exceptions and as usual they prove the rule. Service tattoos are usually an exception, by the way.
However my main point, and it wasn't to you, was that overt declarations such as his, are likely to brand him either as a terrorist or certainly a terrorist sympathiser. I would guess that, much against his false belief, there would be few places in Ireland that would make him welcome.
I guess if he stays in America he will be Ok. After all there is not much to pick between any of you in the intelligence stakes.

I got along just fine in Ireland, both times when I stayed there. I still maintain contact with a few friends over there. No one ever suspected me of being a terrorist or even a sympathizer. Granted I spent most of my time in the south, but I highly doubt there's THAT many 'Republicans' there these days.

And I can honestly say that a tattoo, as long as it is not on your head/face/neck or wrists and hands, will not hinder you from obtaining any job. If it did, I certainly wouldn't want to work in those places in the first place.
 
Government-owned gets government contract...

Suddenly the Fords that have been the mainstay of so many police departments for decades are no longer going to be the fleet car. Government Motors got the contract and will be building a new model specifically for that.

I wonder how much pressure the new CEO Obama put out to get that done?
 
I got along just fine in Ireland, both times when I stayed there. I still maintain contact with a few friends over there. No one ever suspected me of being a terrorist or even a sympathizer. Granted I spent most of my time in the south, but I highly doubt there's THAT many 'Republicans' there these days.

And I can honestly say that a tattoo, as long as it is not on your head/face/neck or wrists and hands, will not hinder you from obtaining any job. If it did, I certainly wouldn't want to work in those places in the first place.

Well, in the end it's your choice and it says a lot about you. But you are free to follow your own star and I would be free to tell you to take a hike. Your last statement is extremely defeatist. Are you really prepared to say to any employer at all, that you prefer tattoos to career progress? Isnt your unemployment figure approaching ten percent? I dont think I would want to put anything in the way of a better life if I were you.
But it's too late now ... and perhaps you would do well to remember those five words.
 
Well, in the end it's your choice and it says a lot about you. But you are free to follow your own star and I would be free to tell you to take a hike. Your last statement is extremely defeatist. Are you really prepared to say to any employer at all, that you prefer tattoos to career progress? Isnt your unemployment figure approaching ten percent? I dont think I would want to put anything in the way of a better life if I were you.
But it's too late now ... and perhaps you would do well to remember those five words.

Yes, I would gladly say that to any prospective employer. I just got out of the service 3 weeks ago (Sept 18th 2009, the greatest day of my life), and had no problem finding steady employ 3 days later. And most importantly of all, I value freedom more than my own life, much less the quality of it, so I hardly see the 'defeat' in my last statement.
 
Government-owned gets government contract...

Suddenly the Fords that have been the mainstay of so many police departments for decades are no longer going to be the fleet car. Government Motors got the contract and will be building a new model specifically for that.

I wonder how much pressure the new CEO Obama put out to get that done?

GM has had contracts for many years with the government, long before the take over. All most all military vehicles use Chevy transmissions, for example. Once you get a government contract, it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to be let go. Look at FN.
 
GM has had contracts for many years with the government, long before the take over. All most all military vehicles use Chevy transmissions, for example. Once you get a government contract, it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to be let go. Look at FN.
And yet it happened in support of the government-owned company.

Interesting.

For decades Ford has made the fleet car for police all over the union, it is only just recently after the government takeover that this changed.
 
It is the 'American' idea of true freedom that I do not understand. I don't think it is freedom to be afraid to walk the streets. I dont think it is freedom to live your lives in fear of attack by one or all of the following: Commies, tourists (terrorists), white people with guns, black people with guns, rapists, mountain lions, Mexicans, Aliens, Ruskies, Huskies, peruvians and penguins. I dont think you are free if you are internationally derided and warned not to travel to some parts of the world. It is not free to have to rely on motor cars to get a loaf of bread. It is not free to have to rely on the armed forces to ensure your safety.
You, I hope, have learned by now that you cannot invade countries and demand freedom at the point of a gun.
In reality, your comment is as foolish as anything I may have written in the years I have been posting. So you enjoy what you think is freedom and I will enjoy what I think is freedom.

You clearly need to visit the US... It is not economically feasible to have a grocery store within walking/biking distance to every home. While I have certainly seen bears while hiking in Yosemite and Denali and more than my share of mountain goats and elk while hiking here in Colorado, I do not fear any of them. They are a part of the environment and generally are far more afraid of humans than we are of them.

As for the roads... no... we do not have the money to pave every road in America. Again, it is not economically feasible. Just as it is in China and every other country that has a vast amount of land (see Russia, India, China, US, Canada, Mexico etc...)

When you look at Britain... it is about the size of Kansas. When you look at the Hong Kong area... it is about a third of the mass of our smallest state (though the population density is far greater). Yet even in Britain there are unpaved roads.
 
You clearly need to visit the US... It is not economically feasible to have a grocery store within walking/biking distance to every home. While I have certainly seen bears while hiking in Yosemite and Denali and more than my share of mountain goats and elk while hiking here in Colorado, I do not fear any of them. They are a part of the environment and generally are far more afraid of humans than we are of them.

As for the roads... no... we do not have the money to pave every road in America. Again, it is not economically feasible. Just as it is in China and every other country that has a vast amount of land (see Russia, India, China, US, Canada, Mexico etc...)

When you look at Britain... it is about the size of Kansas. When you look at the Hong Kong area... it is about a third of the mass of our smallest state (though the population density is far greater). Yet even in Britain there are unpaved roads.

Don't worry, low is just a xenophobe.
 
And yet it happened in support of the government-owned company.

Interesting.

For decades Ford has made the fleet car for police all over the union, it is only just recently after the government takeover that this changed.

Most police departments procure equipment at the local level. While there has been a shift away from the aging Crown Vic towards the Impala, I've also seen more than a fair share of Chargers and Mustangs. And the change has been going on for years.
 
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