Jobs report: 263k jobs added

archives said:
"The Revolution," lets try it, just for laughs, who the f*ck specifically is "The Revolution?"

And "those guys," "deep state," "globalists," "them," etc, isn't being specific
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It is your responsibility to learn my vocabulary.

The Revolution is the WOKE, the Bus Drivers to UTOPIA...we are being taken there without our consent because all of those lectures over all of those decades about consent and transparancy were Bull Shit.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
They know that jobs will be hammered and they are fine with that. The workers will pay for this fight against inflation that our leaders caused by making too many dollars.
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Here we go again, "they," and then we got "the workers," Tom Brady, and even your man Tucker, work for a living, although I'd classify the later as a pimp, are they going to be hammered?
 
archives said:
No single economic indicator tells the whole story, but if you want to frame the narrative, you just completely ignore any clashing information. I don't think you'll find most media ignoring the report, or inflation in general, but I can't say the same for the right leaning sources

And you are looking for an interpretation of the numbers, which again, most media will include, others, as those mentioned, will not if they don't even bring them up

It won't distract the Fed from raising interest rates, in fact, could encourage that they could be on the right track, increasing rates while not effecting hiring implying less of a toll on production
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I'm not exactly sure what you want done. Every Republican running for office should put out an ad saying 263K jobs gained in September, vote for your current Congressman or Senator?

Jobs are great and important and clearly people would rather have one than not, but if inflation and other costs are making your poorer a lower unemployment rate isn't something you are going to pop a champagne bottle over.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
It is your responsibility to learn my vocabulary.

The Revolution is the WOKE, the Bus Drivers to UTOPIA...we are being taken there without our consent because all of those lectures over all of those decades about consent and transparancy were Bull Shit.
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How come I'm not surprised, as I said, just for laughs, the "bus drivers to utopia" is an instant classic, now the "bus drivers to utopia" are purposely causing inflation
 
cawacko said:
I'm not exactly sure what you want done. Every Republican running for office should put out an ad saying 263K jobs gained in September, vote for your current Congressman or Senator?

Jobs are great and important and clearly people would rather have one than not, but if inflation and other costs are making your poorer a lower unemployment rate isn't something you are going to pop a champagne bottle over.
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I don't want anything, rather just pointing out the reality, the right wing media won't even recognize the report, ruins the narrative, the same narrative those "every Republican running for office" will echo

And the funny thing about that narrative on inflation as armageddon, and I am not saying inflation isn't have an effect on people's lives, however, I don't see F150 sales going down, sporting events crowds shrinking, bread lines forming, soup kitchens on every corner, vacation resorts closing, holiday travel shrining, etc., in fact, the very people who are effected the most by inflation is the very population the GOP is concerned about the least
 
archives said:
I don't want anything, rather just pointing out the reality, the right wing media won't even recognize the report, ruins the narrative, the same narrative those "every Republican running for office" will echo

And the funny thing about that narrative on inflation as armageddon, and I am not saying inflation isn't have an effect on people's lives, however, I don't see F150 sales going down, sporting events crowds shrinking, bread lines forming, soup kitchens on every corner, vacation resorts closing, holiday travel shrining, etc., in fact, the very people who are effected the most by inflation is the very population the GOP is concerned about the least
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I have certain right wing people/outlets I follow and I've seen the jobs number mentioned but I can't claim to follow them all. And I'm not sure what narrative it destroys.

Even during recessions the world does continue to go on. People aren't just going to whole up and not live but for those for whom money is more scarce they have to make choices and cut back. I seen people here try to argue inflation is just a figment of the media as if people don't see higher prices when they go to the store, gas station etc. If polling is to be believed/accurate Pew Research says inflation is the number one issue for voters.

I'm repeating myself here but jobs are important, no question. But if you feel poorer you probably aren't in a celebratory mood.
 
cawacko said:
I have certain right wing people/outlets I follow and I've seen the jobs number mentioned but I can't claim to follow them all. And I'm not sure what narrative it destroys.

Even during recessions the world does continue to go on. People aren't just going to whole up and not live but for those for whom money is more scarce they have to make choices and cut back. I seen people here try to argue inflation is just a figment of the media as if people don't see higher prices when they go to the store, gas station etc. If polling is to be believed/accurate Pew Research says inflation is the number one issue for voters.

I'm repeating myself here but jobs are important, no question. But if you feel poorer you probably aren't in a celebratory mood.
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Sure the world continues on, and inflation does take its toll, but at the same time, it doesn't appear to the armageddon that many, largely on the right, are portraying it as 24/7.

An as far as it being the number one concern of voters, of course it is, just like crime, the media is telling them it is, easy to demogogue the complex
 
archives said:
This one really cracks one up, for the eight years of Obama all we heard from the right was Labor Participation Rates, and yet, when Trump ascended, nothing, it was as if Labor Participation Rates vanished, and yet now, with another Democrat in the White House, the LPR variable has resurfaced, too funny
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Now you are trying to attribute the general case to me. I have always used labor participation rates and railed against the unemployment rate, particularly U3. What you present is a No True Scotsman fallacy.

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archives said:
Sure the world continues on, and inflation does take its toll, but at the same time, it doesn't appear to the armageddon that many, largely on the right, are portraying it as 24/7.

An as far as it being the number one concern of voters, of course it is, just like crime, the media is telling them it is, easy to demogogue the complex
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Easy to demogauge? Ok, I guess that could be said about really anything but do you think people don't notice that their money doesn't go as far? And we have a stock market that has been dropping greatly and we are likely heading towards a recession (if we're not already in one) due to the Fed's activities. These are all economic realities.

From a partisan perspective I understand you would rather focus on just the job numbers and ignore all other economic indicators but that people are aware of them isn't demogauging.
 
archives said:
"The Revolution," lets try it, just for laughs, who the f*ck specifically is "The Revolution?"

And "those guys," "deep state," "globalists," "them," etc, isn't being specific
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I went to the 'SC game Saturday and going back to when I was a student they've always had a couple of people on gameday standing outside the Coliseum with megaphones yelling at everyone that they are going to hell and they need Jesus and shouldn't be at the game, or something like that. (I'm a Christian and I have no idea what these people are saying.)

That's what this yelling of Revolution is to me. It's noise that's just repeated over and over. When California shockingly passed pro free market/pro development legislation to allow for the building of new housing and it was called the Revolution and a call for Tucker Carlson to look into it just shows you there is no rhyme or reason.
 
It's funny that the instant reaction of some on the right is to downplay it.

New jobs is good news any ol' time. Trump was the worst jobs President in modern history. It's just good to be back on track.
 
BartenderElite said:
It's funny that the instant reaction of some on the right is to downplay it.

New jobs is good news any ol' time. Trump was the worst jobs President in modern history. It's just good to be back on track.
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I don’t know if it’s funny, or sad, that no one has actually talked about the report and it’s data. We see a job number but have absolutely no context for it. Instead it’s just the usual partisan tribalism based on a headline.
 
LABOR {PARTICIPATION RATE: 2019 - 63.6%

2022 61.6%


MILLIONS FEWER AMERICANS WORKING UNDER BIDEN THAN TRUMP.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Your response is just ad hominem. I have consistently used the labor participation rate when talking about employment.



Only working age persons are included in the labor participation rate. So, the age stratification of the labor force really makes no difference. Retired persons aren't included in the calculation nor are unpaid volunteers and those who are 'homemakers' in self-service.
The reason it is lower is because more people are opting out of work.

One reason fewer people are opting to work is more have found a way to make themselves count as "disabled." The ADA has made disability into a cottage industry and in the roughly last two decades the number of disabled Americans has risen from about 12% of the population to 19%.
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Bureau of Labor Statistics:

The labor force participation rate represents the number of people in the labor force as a percentage of the civilian noninstitutional population. In other words, the participation rate is the percentage of the population that is either working or actively looking for work. Bureau of Labor Statistics:

The labor force participation rate is calculated as: (Labor Force ÷ Civilian Noninstitutional Population) x 100.

https://www.bls.gov/cps/definitions...n,Civilian Noninstitutional Population) x 100.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The Revolution is deeply hostile towards entrepreneurs, and will continue to come after them hard. Hammering these types was a lot of what the COVID martial laws were about.
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An idiot replies to an idiot.

Gig workers have to pay not only their share of FICA and Medicare taxes, they are forced to pay the employers share as well. As usual, our resident Nazi knows absolutely nothing about any economic topic.
 
Cypress said:
Bureau of Labor Statistics:

The labor force participation rate represents the number of people in the labor force as a percentage of the civilian noninstitutional population. In other words, the participation rate is the percentage of the population that is either working or actively looking for work. Bureau of Labor Statistics:

The labor force participation rate is calculated as: (Labor Force ÷ Civilian Noninstitutional Population) x 100.

https://www.bls.gov/cps/definitions...n,Civilian Noninstitutional Population) x 100.
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Once again, one of their favorite canards is the labor participation rate. And they don't know what the fuck it is. Our resident Nazi is wrong again, as wrong as he can possibly be. The labor force participation rate includes EVERYONE over the age of 16 who is not incarcerated. So I am part of the civilian population Even though I am retired and not looking for work. A ninety year old in a nursing home is part of the Civilian population. Every boomer who has retired is part of the civilian population.

The fact is that the labor force participation rate among males has been dropping for the last 60 years. Women entering the work force was what kept the rate as high as it was. Baby boomers retiring were obviously going to lower the rate, and the rate has been lowered even further because teenagers are no longer interested in working.
 
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