Fort Hood to be renamed for Richard Cavazos, a four-star Hispanic general

[Dutch Uncle]

He must not have replied to many of your posts. But yes, you are right, he's very weird. He used to stalk me until I called him out on it.

^^^
Chickenshit.

 

[Yakuda]

U.S. Army base Fort Hood, named for a Confederate major general who led troops into battle against the United States during the Civil War, will be renamed for a Latino postwar four-star Army general.

The new name will honor Gen. Richard Cavazos, who is noted for his leadership during the Korean War, when he earned the Silver Star and Distinguished Service Cross for leading the Puerto Rican regiment “The Borinqueers.” He also served in Vietnam.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/f...A12ID8E?cvid=310217b4c5964858a90e6df86649f480

So? Makes you feel better right?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

So? Makes you feel better right?

Regardless, it's the US Army's choice. Those who served understand. The chickenshits who didn't can go pound sand.

 

[anonymoose]

If you consider yourself conservative,

I don’t. So the rest of your post is moot.

 

[Yakuda]

Regardless, it's the US Army's choice. Those who served understand. The chickenshits who didn't can go pound sand.

Irrelevant. It's just a feel good measure no matter who the fuck decides it.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Irrelevant. It's just a feel good measure no matter who the fuck decides it.

So the military naming any ship, post, base, weapon system, etc is a "feel good measure"?

What about monuments. All feel good measures too?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

we were aggressors in an unjust war

You have the benefit of 50 years of hindsight and you just jumped on the bandwagon long after the facts were established. In 1966 and 1967 very few Americans were anti-war or openly calling the conflict in Asia illegal and immoral.

Those that did tended to be hippies or others on the political left.

Republicans and conservatives were not known as anti-war protesters. It wasn't that many years ago that Republicans were hollering that we should have stayed in Vietnam and fought on to the final victory.

If you consider yourself conservative, and not in possession of 50 years of hindsight, there would have been almost no chance you would have been calling the Vietnam War illegal and immoral in 1967 or 68.

Anymouse has proved himself to be a chickenshit anti-American several times both in this thread and outside of it.

Agreed on 1960s Conservatives.

http://vietnamwar.lib.umb.edu/warHome/docs/1964GoldwaterOnVietnam.html
Barry Goldwater on Vietnam
United States Senator Barry Goldwater (Republican - Arizona)
Republican candidate for President in 1964

We must, instead, prosecute the war in Vietnam with the object of ending it along with the threats to peace that it poses all over the world.

Taking strong action simply to return to the status quo is not worthy of our sacrifices, our ideals, or our vision of a world of peace, freedom and justice.

Now this doesn't mean the use of military power alone. We have vast resources of economic, political and psychological power which have not even been tapped in our Vietnamese strategy.

These, I suggest, can be peaceful means of waging war on war itself and all I say is, let's use them.

 

[Cypress]

Anymouse has proved himself to be a chickenshit anti-American several times both in this thread and outside of it.

Agreed on 1960s Conservatives.

http://vietnamwar.lib.umb.edu/warHome/docs/1964GoldwaterOnVietnam.html
Barry Goldwater on Vietnam
United States Senator Barry Goldwater (Republican - Arizona)
Republican candidate for President in 1964

It's kind of like how today almost everyone is supposedly against the Iraq War, having benefited from 20 years of hindsight, and belatedly jumping on the bandwagon the liberal anti-war protestors started in 2003.

There were almost no conservatives calling the Vietnam war illegal and immoral in the late 1960s.

 

[anonymoose]

I only favor attacking those countries that would be planning to attack us.

Except for Vietnam. Any other exceptions?

 

[Theywillneverlearn!]

U.S. Army base Fort Hood, named for a Confederate major general who led troops into battle against the United States during the Civil War, will be renamed for a Latino postwar four-star Army general.

The new name will honor Gen. Richard Cavazos, who is noted for his leadership during the Korean War, when he earned the Silver Star and Distinguished Service Cross for leading the Puerto Rican regiment “The Borinqueers.” He also served in Vietnam.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/f...A12ID8E?cvid=310217b4c5964858a90e6df86649f480

Looks like democrats lost another one of their Confederate heroes. I am surprised the progressives were not demanding it be changed to Fort Nidal Hasan though.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

It's kind of like how today almost everyone is supposedly against the Iraq War, having benefited from 20 years of hindsight, and belatedly jumping on the bandwagon the liberal anti-war protestors started in 2003.

There were almost no conservatives calling the Vietnam war illegal and immoral in the late 1960s.

Agreed on both points. Note that Bush had to go "general-shopping" to lead his attack on another country. I was against the Iraq War from the beginning for the same reasons our nation's military leaders were against it;
1. Starting an invasion was morally wrong for the same reasons Putin was wrong for invading Ukraine.
2. Winning the war against a Third World shithole would be easy but occupying another country would be very problematic as, again, Putin is finding out.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Except for Vietnam. Any other exceptions?

Vietnam wasn't going to attack us. Vietnam, along with a lot of South and Central American countries, was part of the Cold War proxy wars under the communist containment strategy.

You're proving your youthful age and ignorance to go by solely by hindsight.

https://www.studentsofhistory.com/containment-the-truman-policy

The Truman Doctrine, also known as the policy of containment, was President Harry Truman’s foreign policy that the US would provide political, military, and economic aid to democratic countries under the threat of communist influences in order to prevent the expansion of communism. The policy marked a step away from the US’s previous isolationist policies, which discouraged the US from becoming involved in foreign affairs.

The policy was introduced during a speech to Congress in 1947. President Truman urged Congress to grant financial aid to Greece and Turkey because Great Britain could no longer assist them. The Greek government needed help fighting against the Greek Communist Party, and the Soviets were threatening Turkey. President Truman successfully convinced Congress to provide $400 million in aid to support the two countries. The Marshall Plan, which was the American initiative to provide economic assistance to democratic countries in Western Europe, was also part of this policy. The US feared that desperate European countries would be more likely to turn to communism. About a year later, the US organized the creation of NATO, which consisted of 12 North American and European nations, as a defensive military bloc against any Soviet efforts to expand communism....

...The Vietnam War, which began shortly after the armistice, was another significant instance of the Truman Doctrine in Asia. The communist government of North Vietnam (backed by the Soviet Union) battled the South Vietnam government (backed by the US). While the US won several major military victories, due to lack of American popular support, the US pulled out of Vietnam though hostilities between the North and South had not ceased. The US failed its objective of preventing a communist takeover, as Vietnam ultimately unified under communist rule in 1975.

The Korean and Vietnam Wars are often referred to as proxy wars because the US and the Soviet Union did not directly fight each other. Each backed opposing forces in conflicts in Korea and Vietnam.

 

[anonymoose]

It's kind of like how today almost everyone is supposedly against the Iraq War, having benefited from 20 years of hindsight, and belatedly jumping on the bandwagon the liberal anti-war protestors started in 2003.
.

Not me. In fact when most Americans were all in just before the invasion, it justified my opposition to Bush Jr from the get go.
There’s a chapter in the Tao Te Ching where it states that a bad leader is better than no leader. If only Bush, Hillary, Obama, et al could’ve, would’ve taken that morsel of wisdom…

 

[anonymoose]

Vietnam wasn't going to attack us. Vietnam, along with a lot of South and Central American countries, was part of the Cold War proxy wars under the communist containment strategy.

You're proving your youthful age and ignorance to go by solely by hindsight.

https://www.studentsofhistory.com/containment-the-truman-policy

And you’re proving your ignorance as to what a proxy war is. Vietnam was a hot war. I honestly don’t understand how you don’t know that. Amazing.
Are you aware that Ho Chi Minh actually asked FDR (or it could’ve been Truman) for assistance in getting the French to decolonize Vietnam? Ho was ignored.

 

[Cypress]

Not me. In fact when most Americans were all in just before the invasion, it justified my opposition to Bush Jr from the get go.
There’s a chapter in the Tao Te Ching where it states that a bad leader is better than no leader. If only Bush, Hillary, Obama, et al could’ve, would’ve taken that morsel of wisdom…

The Vietnam War wasn't even technically illegal. Our soldiers, along with soldiers from South Korea and Australia, were there at the invitation of the South Vietnamese government. The real question is whether or not we were needlessly fighting in a civil war, wasting both blood and treasure.

Lots of conservatives belatedly claim to have always been against the Iraq War, including Donald Trump.

If this were the late 1960s, you wouldn't even be a Daoist. Eastern religions only started taking hold in the US in the 1960s and even then almost exclusively among west coast beatniks, hippies, liberals. You just jumped on the band wagon decades later.

You are trying to transfer your decades of hindsight and cultural awareness back to the 1960s to claim what you would have done at the time.

If you were 19 years old in 1968 and eligible for the draft, you wouldn't have been practicing eastern mysticism, you wouldn't have been calling the Vietnam War illegal, and you wouldn't have been cheering the draft dodgers fleeing to Canada.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

And you’re proving your ignorance as to what a proxy war is. Vietnam was a hot war. I honestly don’t understand how you don’t know that. Amazing.
Are you aware that Ho Chi Minh actually asked FDR (or it could’ve been Truman) for assistance in getting the French to decolonize Vietnam? Ho was ignored.

You're free to hate America and support the Russian version of American History.

 

[anonymoose]

If you were 19 years old in 1968 and eligible for the draft, you wouldn't have been practicing eastern mysticism, you wouldn't have been calling the Vietnam War illegal, and you wouldn't have been cheering the draft dodgers fleeing to Canada.

Wow. You “know” more about me in a completely hypothetical situation than I do.
You must have mystical powers. (I think you actually believe that)
BTW, what’s wrong with 20/20 hindsight?
I always told my staff that a mistake is only made when you don’t learn from it.
Apparently you and Dutch haven’t learned.

 

[anonymoose]

You're free to hate America and support the Russian version of American History.

Actually that version is from William J. Duiker.
You are also free to hate America. In fact we all are.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

Fucking mongrel fascist degenerate racist scumbag who sat on his ass at a stateside raw sewage depot wallowing in waste while REAL troops were at war. Just another coward thanked by cowards.

^^^^^^^^^^^^
Poor cowardly loser lashing out at those that served and fought . Me, Vietnam 69 and 72

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Actually that version is from William J. Duiker.
You are also free to hate America. In fact we all are.

Wow. You citing a Liberal Arts professor is very revealing. How long have you been a liberal America-hater?

Correct, but you do and I don't. It's a choice, lib.