Uh oh... Seems Nordstream 2 is still working

Primavera said:
No wonder you believe Putin because he always been so trustworthy in past and never ever lies!!!! Aren't you even the least bit suspicious that the explosions occurred at the same time as the opening of the Baltic Pipe?

https://ec.europa.eu/info/news/launch-baltic-pipe-2022-sep-27_en
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The link I posted above is to a western-based, internet site that ANYONE can access.
https://www.marinevesseltraffic.com/vessels/USS-Kearsarge-(LHD-3)/CURRENT-POSITION/1/368702000
http://www.uscarriers.net/lhd3history.htm


Oh, COME ON!!!

How the FUCK do you explain why the USS Kearsarge was (apparently) 30 miles from the Nordstream pipelines just days before they exploded?

After Biden said - in matter-of-fact terms - that he would 'end' Nordstream 2 if Russia invaded Ukraine?

Coincidence?


Are you REALLY, this STAGGERINGLY gullible/naive?



Man...you do this.
You make good points.
And then you throw your cred (largely) out the window with nonsense like this.

And for the record?
I don't trust ANY politician...on the planet.
And I would take Putin's word for NOTHING...that hideous, human being.
 
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AssHatZombie said:
this is assinine.

maybe you could suck establishment dick a little harder?
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How is he 'sucking establishment dick'?


The USS Kearsarge was 30 miles from Nordstream just days before it blew?
If the US did it (which seems almost certain, now)?
It's obvious which ship the attack originated from.

Are you seriously suggesting that the Kearsarge?
A Wasp-class, amphibious assault ship of the United States Navy?
Crewed by a minimum of 1,200, Navy personnel/sailors?
Is actually - part of the CIA?

Surely, you cannot be that delusional?
 
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McRocket said:
Good point!

I did not even know about where the Kearsarge was during the explosions until a few minutes ago.
This data is EASY to find...it's available to almost everyone on the web.

Why the 'f' did the MSM not mention this?
Why did they not do a quick check to see if any major, military vessels were in this area after the pipes blew?

Just another example of how the MSM is totally useless.
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Kaliningrad is close by all the time, you seem determined to finger the US.
 
That a US Navy vessel almost certainly carrying some detachments of SEALs, EOD, and other divers, along with carrying rigid hull inflatables, and other small craft could have launched a mission of this sort is not out of the question. The ship could also helo drop divers on the target then recover them later.

The CIA on its own couldn't carry out such a mission.

The downside to this is that you would have over a thousand potential leaks following it being carried out. A mission of this sort isn't going to go unspread among the crew of the ship, and there is no way to stamp it spreading out.
 
McRocket said:
The link I posted above is to a western-based, internet site that ANYONE can access.
https://www.marinevesseltraffic.com/vessels/USS-Kearsarge-(LHD-3)/CURRENT-POSITION/1/368702000


Oh, COME ON!!!

How the FUCK do you explain why the USS Kearsarge was (apparently) 30 miles from the Nordstream pipelines when they exploded?

After Biden said - in matter-of-fact terms - that he would 'end' Nordstream 2 if Russia invaded Ukraine?

Coincidence?


Are you REALLY, this STAGGERINGLY gullible/naive?



Man...you do this.
You make good points.
And then you throw your cred (largely) out the window with nonsense like this.

And for the record?
I don't trust ANY politician...on the planet.
And I would take Putin's word for NOTHING...that hideous, human being.
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Not in the least bit naive but you haven't explained why the sabotage happened at the same time as the opening of the Baltic Pipe.

https://www.baltic-pipe.eu/
 
Primavera said:
Not in the least bit naive but you haven't explained why the sabotage happened at the same time as the opening of the Baltic Pipe.

https://www.baltic-pipe.eu/
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Use your fucking head?

The fact that the Baltic Pipe was online, RIGHT when Nordstream blew up points to the US.
Not Russia.
Because Biden waited until Baltic Pipe was online BEFORE he blew up Nordstream.
To make sure he did not deprive the EU of NG.

What the FUCK would Russia gain from blowing up their own pipeline on the day a competitor opened theirs?
That makes NO, FUCKING SENSE.


Now answer my fucking question, you FUCKING, BRITISH NEOCON.

Are you saying that the Fact the USS Kearsarge just happened to sail within 30 miles of Nordstream - just days before it blew up?
AND Biden - matter-of-factly - said he would 'end' Nordstream 2 if Russia invaded Ukraine?
Is just a fucking coincidence?

YES OR NO?
 
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T. A. Gardner said:
That a US Navy vessel almost certainly carrying some detachments of SEALs, EOD, and other divers, along with carrying rigid hull inflatables, and other small craft could have launched a mission of this sort is not out of the question. The ship could also helo drop divers on the target then recover them later.

The CIA on its own couldn't carry out such a mission.

The downside to this is that you would have over a thousand potential leaks following it being carried out. A mission of this sort isn't going to go unspread among the crew of the ship, and there is no way to stamp it spreading out.
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Don't, fucking pretend that you know exactly what the operation would have taken in terms of personnel or equipment or aircraft/vessels or munitions.
Because you DON'T.
You have not the SLIGHTEST, FUCKING CLUE how large the operation was.

It might have been fairly large.
Or it might have only required a few vessels/aircraft.
Or even just one...at night.

Dropping/placing the timed charges/mines.
Working under top secret conditions.
With orders to all, naval personnel with knowledge of said mission, to absolute secrecy.
 
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McRocket said:
What?

So, whenever a Naval ship launches a secret mission?
Are you actually saying that the crew can not be trusted to keep their mouths shut?
Especially when the ship is still at sea (which the Kearsarge still is)?

You sure have a fucking, low opinion of our sailors sense of duty and honor.
Maybe you should go and tell active sailors that and see what they think about it?
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The Navy is not even close to what it used to be.
 
McRocket said:
Use your fucking head?

The fact that the Baltic Pipe was online, RIGHT when Nordstream blew up points to the US.
Not Russia.
Because Biden waited until Baltic Pipe was online BEFORE he blew up Nordstream.
To make sure he did not deprive the EU of NG.

What the FUCK would Russia gain from blowing up their own pipeline on the day a competitor opened theirs?
That makes NO, FUCKING SENSE.


Now answer my fucking question or PISS OFF and stop wasting my time you FUCKING NEOCON.

Are you saying that the Fact the USS Kearsarge just happened to sail within 30 miles of Nordstream - just days before it blew up?
AND Biden - matter-of-factly - said he would 'end' Nordstream 2 if Russia invaded Ukraine?
Is just a fucking coincidence?

YES OR NO?
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You seem to have all the answers already, based on very little I might add.
 
Primavera said:
You seem to have all the answers already, based on very little I might add.
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And you refuse to answer even one, simple question.

You spread theories around - that don't even make sense.

Then, when someone asks you a SIMPLE question?
Backed up with KNOWN DATA/FACTS?
You refuse to answer it.

Yet...I answered your question.


Like I said...sometimes you make good points.
This is NOT one of those times.

If you are not even going to answer the SIMPLEST questions?
I will waste no more time on you, on this.

Good day.
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
The nastiness is a good sign that he is not interested in learning anymore, that's for sure.
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LOL...says the man who leeches off his 'Slut' (your word) of a wife.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?193830-Jack-never-came-back&p=5270242#post5270242

What does that say about you?


And the nastiness indicates that I expect better from him.
People do not get 'nasty' with people they have no respect for.
They just ignore them.
Like most people do with bums on the street.

Stick to whatever things you do half-decently.
Because judging psychology is NOT one of them.
 
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McRocket said:
Does that 'self-contained secret military force' include the USS Kearsarge?

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https://nexusnewsfeed.com/article/g... wus-navy-ships-that-sabotaged-the-pipelines/
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seems rather anonymous........what is AZmilitary and what is the source of the identification.....how do we know the picture is from the same date as the "sabotage".........is this a routine patrol route or is this a one off thing......besides the fact there were two other ships in the immediate vicinity it appears from the alignment of all the ships that this is a shipping lane to somewhere.......I see no connection between what is in the plcture and Nexus' conclusion they have exposed that US Navy ships sabotaged the pipelines.......
 
McRocket said:
How is he 'sucking establishment dick'?


The USS Kearsarge was 30 miles from Nordstream just days before it blew?
If the US did it (which seems almost certain, now)?
It's obvious which ship the attack originated from.

Are you seriously suggesting that the Kearsarge?
A Wasp-class, amphibious assault ship of the United States Navy?
Crewed by a minimum of 1,200, Navy personnel/sailors?
Is actually - part of the CIA?

Surely, you cannot be that delusional?
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the concept that the u.s. is incapable of it is an establishment cocksucking idea.

how's the taste?
 
PostmodernProphet said:
seems rather anonymous........what is AZmilitary and what is the source of the identification.....how do we know the picture is from the same date as the "sabotage".........is this a routine patrol route or is this a one off thing......besides the fact there were two other ships in the immediate vicinity it appears from the alignment of all the ships that this is a shipping lane to somewhere.......I see no connection between what is in the plcture and Nexus' conclusion they have exposed that US Navy ships sabotaged the pipelines.......
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That assault vessel Kearsage was part of multi-country exercise BALTOPS22 and been in the Baltic since the beginning of June. The usual conspiracy theorists are contending that its presence was a secret ffs.
 
McRocket said:
True.

But I hoped others would come to that conclusion on their own.


BTW - can you imagine what would have happened if the Russians blew up two, major, American pipelines?!?
This was a remarkably stupid and dangerous thing Biden did.
And for little to gain in return - even in a best-case scenario.



Once again...I DESPISE, both parties.
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as the plan was to overtake supplying German and other EU with energy at the expense of Russia it was well worth trying as thats a whole lot of tax dollars to piss away on Green New Deal. And he clearly wants to oust Putin ergo the proxy war.
 
Celticguy said:
as the plan was to overtake supplying German and other EU with energy at the expense of Russia it was well worth trying as thats a whole lot of tax dollars to piss away on Green New Deal. And he clearly wants to oust Putin ergo the proxy war.
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With respect - I disagree.

a) Nord Stream 1 was pumping almost nothing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream#1997–present
Nord Stream 2 had lost it's certification (because of Ukraine).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream_2#History
And they were (probably) not going to start pumping much until the Ukraine Invasion ended.
How is Biden hurting Russia when Russia was making near-zip on the pipelines, right now?

b) the pipes can, almost certainly, be repaired.
https://www.technologyreview.com/20...the-nord-stream-gas-pipelines-could-be-fixed/
Surely (hopefully?), Biden was told that by experts before they attacked.
So, there is no, long term gain.

c) correct me if I am wrong?
But during the Cold War?
Neither side, DIRECTLY-attacked, major assets of the other side in international waters/territory.
Wars have started for less reason.
Putin is talking about nuclear attacks in Ukraine?
And Biden blows up Nord Stream?
Ohhh...that will ramp things down (NOT).

d) and now, Putin can blame Biden blowing up Nord Stream for part of the economic hardship that Russian's are facing (even if it's not true).
This can only help Putin with his people (imo).


Nord Stream was already shut down.
Russia's income from them was minimal to nothing.
There was, literally (that I can see), NOTHING to be gained by damaging the pipes.

This was colossally stupid on Biden's part, imo.
 
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McRocket said:
With respect - I disagree.

a) Nord Stream 1 was pumping almost nothing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream#1997–present
Nord Stream 2 had lost it's certification (because of Ukraine).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream_2#History
And they were (probably) not going to start pumping much until the Ukraine Invasion ended.
How is Biden hurting Russia when Russia was making near-zip on the pipelines, right now?

b) the pipes can, almost certainly, be repaired.
https://www.technologyreview.com/20...the-nord-stream-gas-pipelines-could-be-fixed/
Surely (hopefully?), Biden was told that by experts before they attacked.
So, there is no, long term gain.

c) correct me if I am wrong?
But during the Cold War?
Neither side, DIRECTLY-attacked, major assets of the other side in international waters/territory.
Wars have started for less reason.

Putin is talking about nuclear attacks in Ukraine?
And Biden blows up Nord Stream?
Ohhh...that will ramp things down (NOT).

Nord Stream was already shut down.
Russia's income from them was minimal to nothing.
There was, literally (that I can see), NOTHING to be gained by damaging the pipes.

This was colossally stupid on Biden's part, imo.
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It could be used by Russia to blame the US for Europe's freezing this winter.
 
Celticguy said:
as the plan was to overtake supplying German and other EU with energy at the expense of Russia it was well worth trying as thats a whole lot of tax dollars to piss away on Green New Deal. And he clearly wants to oust Putin ergo the proxy war.
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Assuming Biden did it (and I am convinced he did)?

If Trump were still President?
He obviously would NEVER have authorized this.


I am NO fan of Trump.
But, in this case, I truly believe the entire situation in Ukraine (and with Russia) would have been FAR better had Trump still been POTUS.

Biden has done NOTHING but ramp things up.
Spend, shit loads of taxpayer money.
And get America massively involved in a conflict that is NONE OF OUR BUSINESS!!!

And any neocons or Bidenbots reading this who disagree?
I couldn't give a shit what either of you losers think about this.
ESPECIALLY neocons...the literal scum of the West.
 
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