So if Florida is the “State of Freedom,” as DeSantis propagandizes,

It’s amazing to me how Trumppers scream FREEDOM, while supporting the criminalization of Marajuana and reproductive choices. They scream freedom, while their heroes punish private companies for expressing political opinions, they scream freedom while dictating what topics are allowed to be discussed in schools. They like freedom for their choices but not for others who make different choices. Freedom to fit the narrow path they believe is appropriate.
Move to Cali if you don't feel free because you might miss "marajuana" or abortion...or you disagree with what instruction...not discussion....is allowed in schools....In fact, why are you still in Florida? Lots of real estate available in Cali....
 
So DeSantis, and others in Florida, are supporting freedom by using the government to help with the hurricane?

Yes. But it’s interesting to point out that DeSantis it when other states were trying to support freedom for themselves.
 
You’ve just proven my point, you only want freedom for the things you want. Freedom requires people who live differently than you being allowed to do so.
I simply replied to the things you mentioned....I never mentioned freedom for the things that only I want...
But if you can't live without marijuana, abortion, or certain types of instruction in school, you are free to move...You seem to believe that people should be allowed to do anything they like....even if it's different. and that is "freedom"...No wonder this country is in such trouble...
 
I simply replied to the things you mentioned....I never mentioned freedom for the things that only I want...
But if you can't live without marijuana, abortion, or certain types of instruction in school, you are free to move...You seem to believe that people should be allowed to do anything they like....even if it's different. and that is "freedom"...No wonder this country is in such trouble...

Freedom is necessary limited, so the issue is where you draw the line. My point is that Trumppers seem to draw the line further away from freedom closer to control than non-Trumppers. Yet they scream about wanting freedom.
 
I'm choosing Florida over California every time and it appears that many agree... who would base where they live on the availability of marijuana, abortion, or the option to discuss transsexuality or homosexuality with young children in classrooms?
:laugh: :laugh:

Somebody I want nothing to do with.
 
Freedom is necessary limited, so the issue is where you draw the line. My point is that Trumppers seem to draw the line further away from freedom closer to control than non-Trumppers. Yet they scream about wanting freedom.
You mentioned three subjects and that's what I asked you about... none of those should be game changers if you're choosing where you want to live... what other "freedoms" are you worried about?
 
are Floridians now looking to the Government to help them recover or are they still boasting “freedom,” and doing it without the Government? Does DeSantis now embark upon the big government he supposedly opposes to address the need?

Preach...see this is the shit that pisses me off. All them poor bastards in Florida supported this man and his madness for years and now, they want US tax payers to foot the entire bill to rebuild back on the ocean so we can go through this shit yet another year and then another year. Meanwhile, you got these anti government bastards, Trump/Desantis supporters, agreeing with his willing to jail teachers for teaching black history or mentioning gays, supporting his shipping immigrants all over the country, supporting the same guy that told NY and Jersey after Andrew hit, to fuck themselves, agreeing with him on stripping women to make their own choice, supporting AK gun rights, ok with ppl dying of Covid and on and on and on, fuck Florida!!
 
Can you imagine if Governor DeSantis runs for president and wins? This forum going to be even more fun than it is now....;) And just think how great this country would be!!
 
are Floridians now looking to the Government to help them recover or are they still boasting “freedom,” and doing it without the Government? Does DeSantis now embark upon the big government he supposedly opposes to address the need?

Govt doesn't need to be "big" to be helpful. The federal govt does a ton of sbit it doesn't need to do. I do like though how you tacitly agree bigger govt is a leftist goal.
 
How do you define freedom? To me it’s the right to do as you chose.

And yet if you are a women in America she can’t even decide what to do with her body, and it is those that so easily throw around the cliche “freedom” who deny them that right
 
Can you imagine if Governor DeSantis runs for president and wins? This forum going to be even more fun than it is now....;) And just think how great this country would be!!

LOL as if America is just made up of uneducated cross humping peckerwoods , demographics aren't on your side lunch lay :)
 
Can you imagine if Governor DeSantis runs for president and wins? This forum going to be even more fun than it is now....;) And just think how great this country would be!!

Nah, no one could top the fun Trump provided, and if DeSantis were to win, his Administration would parallel Trump’s, lot of blustering and not a lot of accomplishments
 
Nah, no one could top the fun Trump provided, and if DeSantis were to win, his Administration would parallel Trump’s, lot of blustering and not a lot of accomplishments
We shall see...but as far as topping the fun? I do agree that Joe isn't providing any fun at all...just anguish....Nothing could be worse...Nothing's Ever been this bad...:(
I'm a bit surprised you think that Gov. DeSantis hasn't accomplished anything, when that's very clearly wrong...I know...but if you voted for Joe, I understand....
 
I'm choosing Florida over California every time and it appears that many agree... who would base where they live on the availability of marijuana, abortion, or the option to discuss transsexuality or homosexuality with young children in classrooms?

I would not base where I live on any of those.

What I WOULD consider is whether I’m going to have to evacuate my home, have it destroyed, experience massive power outages or lack of cell phone access, etc. Every year.

Landfall hurricanes in the US occur a couple to several times a year. In the South and Midwest, tornadoes and other extreme weather kill many people and destroy property EVERY YEAR. Usually, several times a year.

On the news, I observe all of those with the same, redundant stories. Followed by the same, tax-payer funded bailouts.

It’s like the movie “Groundhog Day”.

It’s one’s preference to live where they choose. One takes the risk and should be held accountable for it themselves.
 
I would not base where I live on any of those.

What I WOULD consider is whether I’m going to have to evacuate my home, have it destroyed, experience massive power outages or lack of cell phone access, etc. Every year.

Landfall hurricanes in the US occur a couple to several times a year. In the South and Midwest, tornadoes and other extreme weather kill many people and destroy property EVERY YEAR. Usually, several times a year.

On the news, I observe all of those with the same, redundant stories. Followed by the same, tax-payer funded bailouts.

It’s like the movie “Groundhog Day”.

It’s one’s preference to live where they choose. One takes the risk and should be held accountable for it themselves.[/QUOTE]




So no taxpayer handouts for anyone? Anywhere? You probably aren't a fan of taxpayer handouts for illegals then...or other countries who experience disaster or war....Bad personal choice of residence?
 
are Floridians now looking to the Government to help them recover or are they still boasting “freedom,” and doing it without the Government? Does DeSantis now embark upon the big government he supposedly opposes to address the need?

What an asinine premise, completely irrelevant to the freedom from oppressive government overreach and mandates, that they refer to.

The government has its place ;Florida keeps it in it.


How idiotic.
 
Move to Cali if you don't feel free because you might miss "marajuana" or abortion...or you disagree with what instruction...not discussion....is allowed in schools....In fact, why are you still in Florida? Lots of real estate available in Cali....

I’m here for other reasons, but California is much more free than Florida.
 
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