So you think that all 875,000 people who live in SF are upper income?
The top ten POOREST states are all RED states: MS, WV, AL, LA, KY, AR, SC, OK, TN, TX
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So you think that all 875,000 people who live in SF are upper income?
Exactly...like by moving the goalposts so far back that they're meaningless by saying "CA lost population to Texas" without bothering to go into any detail.
I think the reason you didn't go into detail and are resisting going into detail is because the detail is going to show that the people leaving CA are leaving shitty old Mariposa county, not LA county.
Ummm...except that you do really care because it's all you've been running your big mouth about all afternoon.
Saying CA lost population to TX is telling but a fraction of the story.
I know how afraid you get when I get into the details because the details almost always back up what I've been saying, while we have to rely on your word for things.
Well you should because that is a reflection of their choice.
You're the snob who thinks sitting on the fence and heaping scorn on both sides elevates your ideas, when it actually does the opposite because it goes to prove that you are allergic to distinctions and differences (aka THE DETAILS).
If you refuse to choose a side, you will never be on the right side of anything.
And maybe you've already made the calculation that since you're closer to the end of your life than the beginning, what's the point of picking a side now?
ExpressLane
Verified User
Yeah that is the reason people are moving from California to the paradise of Texas.
COMPLETELY FUCKING UNTRUE.
SF has gained 100,000 people between 2011-2020.
LA has gained 200,000 people between 2011-2020.
Here's a link that details the population shifts at a county level, and you will see that exactly ZERO of the counties that lost population between 2010-2022 were LA, SF or adjacent.
So because I know you didn't come up with that nonsense on your own, I can confidently say that you got conned because you got told something you wanted to hear, that validated your inherent flaws and biases.
Literally anyone can check the population on Google and see that LA and SF have gained people since 2010.
So what is your fucking excuse?
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
That's an easy one. The state, along with local government, has been forcing the minimum wage up dramatically. What is happening is the bottom is rising while the middle class, as usual when the Left runs things, is being crushed.
So, the result is that the undeserving are getting more while the productive are getting fucked. That's how Socialism usually works. At some point, the productive either stop producing because it's a waste of their time, or they leave and go somewhere where their efforts are appreciated.
By the way, Chevron just moved their corporate headquarters out of California to Texas...
OK, same question to you:
From where in CA are they leaving?
Not LA, SF, SD, SJ...they're leaving the shitty, garbage red counties: https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-counties/states/ca
Every CA county that lost population between 2010-2022 are red counties, none of them are in LA, SF, SD, SJ.
Even Sacramento gained population over that period.
cawacko
Well-known member
That's an easy one. The state, along with local government, has been forcing the minimum wage up dramatically. What is happening is the bottom is rising while the middle class, as usual when the Left runs things, is being crushed.
So, the result is that the undeserving are getting more while the productive are getting fucked. That's how Socialism usually works. At some point, the productive either stop producing because it's a waste of their time, or they leave and go somewhere where their efforts are appreciated.
By the way, Chevron just moved their corporate headquarters out of California to Texas...
FWIW, they aren't moving their HQ's to Texas. They sold their HQ building in San Ramon and are moving their HQ next door to Bishop Ranch. They are increasing the number of workers in Texas however.
Dramatically? To what?
That is not socialism at all.
Socialism would be CA seizing the means of production for something like, say, oil or natural gas, putting them under public ownership.
Raising the MW isn't socialism, it's capitalism.
"The productive"?
Who do you mean?
Well, good luck to them...I hear Texas has a lot of energy problems if it gets a little chilly or a little warm or a little wet...
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Well, Chevron is moving from San Ramon CA to Houston. They're taking about 6,000 jobs with them--most employees are moving to keep their jobs. That will leave less than 2000 in a much smaller field office in California that Chevron expects to continue to shrink.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/chevron-sells-global-headquarters-california-amid-texas-expansion
It is only better for elitist snobs who think picking one state over another is a basis on which to judge people. I guess it shows your poor judgment because you live in a red state.
Maybe it is choice because that is where their job is located or a climate required for their health or a lower cost of living in retirement.
In a world that hates people because of race, religion, nationality, we need another superficial factor such as red or blue state. These are obviously factors more important to some than red or blue.
Ummm...you should probably check your facts here because they didn't relocate their Corporate HQ to Texas, they relocated it literally right next door in CA.
Flash, shut the fuck up, you judge people all the fucking time.
Give it a goddamn rest with this self-righteous bullshit.
You are one of the most judgmental people on JPP.
Get a grip.
Your "details" never have anything to do with the real issue. You only bring up irrelevant details when your claims are proven wrong. Listing CA cities that gained population was a poor effort to prove CA was not losing population.
You need to go back in this thread and really read what I've written because I've already addressed all this shit with Dutch, and catching you up is just an exercise I constantly find myself doing and getting nothing in return for.
So this feels like a retreat...it feels like you conceded the point that those CA cities didn't lose really anyone, so you're shifting tactics now and trying to make things personal.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
The whole concept of a minimum wage is Socialist. Continually raising it is just a means for a Socialist government using Statist Capitalism to force employers to pay for that Socialism
https://europeanconservative.com/articles/commentary/minimum-wages-mandatory-socialism/
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/washington-state-democratic-socialist-candidate-30-minimum-wage
What happens is a high minimum wage means that low productivity workers are getting paid more than they are worth or produce. That forces businesses that cannot meet that wage out of the market. The government might prop up such businesses with subsidies if those businesses are still necessary. For higher productivity workers they can feel their work is no longer appreciated because their pay is close to or the same as that of low productivity workers. Why work hard for a wage just over minimum when you can do little or nothing and still get just as much pay?
The whole idea is Socialist. It tries to argue that such wage plans are "fair and equal" ignoring the variance in effort and skill put forward by workers. In essence, it is saying that all work is equal regardless of effort or skill needed to do it. It's the typical fool's errand that Socialism makes.
What county they came from in CA is not a "detail" relevant to the fact that CA lost population, especially to TX. It shows how you denigrate people based on their state, county, or other superficial trait.
LV426: "CA did not really lose population because the ones who moved were from Mariposa County"
You want to get rid of those poor minorities because they prove CA has the country's highest poverty rate when cost of living is computed (Census Bureau). It also proves who is hurt most by CA policies.