The top ten POOREST states are all RED states: MS, WV, AL, LA, KY, AR, SC, OK, TN, TX

MAGA MAN said:
I read that and anticipated that you would bring it up, and addressed it in my earlier post.
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All you spoke to it was that red districts have "low costs of living" but you left out the reason why: because they're so fucking shitty, there's no opportunity, so no one wants to live in them.

That's why people left them over the last decade...more than who left California over the same amount of time.

Rural America Lost Population Over the Past Decade for the First Time in History
Recent data from the 2020 Census reveal that the rural population declined between 2010 and 2020.
https://carsey.unh.edu/publication-...s was,counties, population gains were minimal.
 
Flash said:
Those same states were also among the poorest when they voted straight Democratic. The political party in control does not change the rural nature and history.

Although not a state, most lists of the poorest states include the District of Columbia. Why are those Democrats keeping all those black people poor?
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DC votes only about 5% Republican. The blacks that live there mostly work for FedCo doing cafeteria and low level service jobs for the rich white Democrats who have high paying FedCo jobs. Democrats like to be served by blacks.
 
MAGA MAN said:
You should get an award for the most double-posting, because you lack the self control to read your own post before making it public. T
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Well Omar, you don't read your links fully so I have to step in and clarify them because you won't.

So your link proved that blue districts are wealthier than red ones, and the reason why is because not enough people want to live in the red districts.

So you maintain a low cost of living at the expense of growth and opportunity because you know that blue cities and states are going to pick up your tab.
 
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Dutch Uncle said:
Why do you think that is and what is your solution to poverty and crime?
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Republican policies are becoming more radical and extreme.
My solution to poverty would be more opportunity and jobs, not handouts.
My solution to crime would be more police.

Kinda off-topic but we're seeing a lot of applications for military drones on the battlefield. Why couldn't we have police drones that could fly to a place where a crime or major accident has occurred and give the police a view of what's going on before they get there. They maybe could even be programmed to follow a car that's running from the police.
Just have a drone in every police car and have the police car take a photo of the car and download it to the drone and send the drone after the running car to track it. You could also have drones that can deploy pepper spray during a riot or uprising.
 
MAGA MAN said:
DC votes only about 5% Republican. The blacks that live there mostly work for FedCo doing cafeteria and low level service jobs for the rich white Democrats who have high paying FedCo jobs. Democrats like to be served by blacks.
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Why are all those powerful rich people in the blue states oppressing the poor minorities in the red states?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Why do you think that is and what is your solution to poverty and crime?
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They're poor because no one wants to live in them because they have no opportunity or growth potential.

The solution is universal health care, universal public education and colleges, raising the minimum wage to a living wage, and executing billionaires.
 
LV426 said:
All you spoke to it was that red districts have "low costs of living" but you left out the reason why: because they're so fucking shitty, there's no opportunity, so no one wants to live in them.

That's why people left them over the last decade...more than who left California over the same amount of time.

Rural America Lost Population Over the Past Decade for the First Time in History
Recent data from the 2020 Census reveal that the rural population declined between 2010 and 2020.
https://carsey.unh.edu/publication-...s was,counties, population gains were minimal.
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Cherry picked data to support your uneducated opinion.

What matters is what has happened over the last 50 years, where many of the states controlled by Democrats have diminished in relative population.

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https://centerforpolitics.org/cryst...sentation-has-changed-over-the-past-50-years/
 
LV426 said:
Just curious, in those districts, what is the median income vs. the median income in the red districts?

Have you done that work? Because I have.

From that same Brookings report:
That coincides with a sharp increase in incomes and economic output for the constituencies Democrats represent in Congress. Today, the $61,000 median income of blue districts substantially exceeds the $53,000 median income of red ones, reversing the order from 2008
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While that's a key fact, to compare apples to apples, what is the cost of living between blue districts and red? $61K isn't much if you have to work in Manhattan, but it's a substantial sum in the rural South.

Notice how this list compares to the OP list:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/cost-of-living-index-by-state
Here are the 10 states with the lowest cost of living:

Mississippi - 83.3
Kansas - 86.5
Oklahoma - 87.9
Alabama - 87.9
Georgia - 88.8
Tennessee - 89
Missouri - 89.8
Iowa - 89.9
West Virginia - 90.5
Indiana - 90.6
A closer look at the national costs of living is needed to better understand costs across states. The average household in the United States spends $61,334 a year on expenses. On average, 34.9% of spending, or roughly $1,784 a month, is dedicated to housing and housing-related costs. The median price of a single-family home in the United States is $273,992. Nationwide, the average rent for a two-bedroom apartment runs $1,164 a month.

The average American household dedicates a further 16% of spending to transportation, an average of $9,826 a year. Annual healthcare costs average another $5,177 annually. Food, including groceries and eating out, costs another $7,317 a year or $609.75 a month. The average monthly cost for utilities in the U.S. is $370.16.

Nationwide, the median household income is $67,521 a year, while personal income for individuals is $35,805. The living wage for the United States is $68,808 annually for a family of four.
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Dutch Uncle said:
While that's a key fact, to compare apples to apples, what is the cost of living between blue districts and red?
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Cost of living has to do with opportunity and growth potential, so having a low cost of living isn't a good thing because it means no one wants to live there.

The cost of living in Atlanta in 2013 was about 50% below what the cost of living in Atlanta is in 2022, and that's if you're just looking at home prices.

That's because between 2013 and 2022, Atlanta created opportunity because of the film and TV industry who were lured here with tax credits.
 
This reality had been around a long time, and no matter what factual evidence is presented, the wingers are never going to admit it
 
Flash said:
Those same states were also among the poorest when they voted straight Democratic. The political party in control does not change the rural nature and history.

Although not a state, most lists of the poorest states include the District of Columbia. Why are those Democrats keeping all those black people poor?
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It's like everyone is trying to create a narrative to fit their partisan position (although there's no denying the role political parties and their policies play).

There's a reason places like Las Vegas, Texas, Florida, Nashville etc. are seeing such growth and its because of job opportunities and more affordable cost of living than on the coasts. (although prices in those areas are starting to rise significantly)

Speaking about black people specifically there's the obvious connection to the South but it's also the cost of living and opportunities that are the reason many people are returning.
 
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