Do you believe Trump can 'declassify' classified docs by just 'thinking about them'?

Port Tack said:
It doesn't make any difference who packed them and I haven't heard anyone from the left claim he packed the boxes. If that is your next defense for why he is innocent it won't work either.
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ROFL.......innocent of what.......he hasn't even been charged with a crime yet.....as I believe YOU were busy pointing out just yesterday, this is a civil hearing, not a criminal proceeding......
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Just by thinking you asked a question and then thinking I answered the question it made your question be answered. It was a perfect answer. The best answer ever. It all was a result of the greatest thinking ever in the world.
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so you agree you didn't actually answer the question, you just wanted me to think you did..........didn't work, you still look like you're avoiding the only possible answer........
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Can you give a citation for the USSC case you claim exists that gives the President power to declassify with just thinking?
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the "just thinking" is irrelevant........there are no restrictions at all on the president's power to declassify documents.......
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/484/518/#tab-opinion-1957333
The President, after all, is the "Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States." U.S.Const., Art. II, § 2. His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant. See Cafeteria Workers v. McElroy, 367 U. S. 886, 367 U. S. 890 (1961). This Court has recognized the Government's "compelling interest" in withholding national security information from unauthorized persons in the course of executive business. Snepp v. United States, 444 U. S. 507, 444 U. S. 509, n. 3 (1980). See also United States v. Robel, 389 U. S. 258, 389 U. S. 267 (1967); United States v. Reynolds, 345 U. S. 1, 345 U. S. 10 (1953); Totten v. United States, 92 U. S. 105, 92 U. S. 106 (1876). The authority to protect such information falls on the President as head of the Executive Branch and as Commander in Chief.
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(Declassify...... Declassify..... Declassify....)

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Joe Capitalist said:
Here's Trump's latest bullshit. He can 'declassify' documents by just thinking about them. Do you believe him?



Trump’s claim of declassifying documents ‘by thinking about it’ is mocked by legal experts

Former President Trump says he could declassify documents just “by thinking about it” — an outlandish claim that drew howls of outrage from legal experts.

Speaking to Fox News’s Sean Hannity, Trump asserted there is no need for the president to formally declassify documents or even notify anyone that he has done so.

“If you’re the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying, ‘It’s declassified,’ even by thinking about it,” Trump said.
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“There can be a process, but there doesn’t have to be,” he added. “You’re the president. You make that decision.”

Trump is scrambling to find a legally viable defense to the investigation into mishandling top secret documents that led to the Aug. 8 search of his Mar-a-Lago Florida resort.

He apparently believes one defense could be that the documents were no longer classified because he says so.

But experts vigorously dispute that, noting that he has never provided any evidence that he declassified them before leaving the White House.

“I tried not to burst out laughing,” said Bradley P. Moss, a national security lawyer.

A three-judge federal appeals court panel, including two Trump-appointed justices, trashed Trump’s claim Wednesday night, saying documents that are marked as classified are considered classified unless there is evidence they have been declassified.
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PostmodernProphet said:
well fine....since the goal was to name a case against Trump you admit you couldn't........you should have just admitted it......
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Where was that the goal? I was merely pointing out your lie about the case when you claimed it was only about Weisselberg's personal tax returns. So rather than admit you were in error you have simply moved the goalposts.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
so you agree you didn't actually answer the question, you just wanted me to think you did..........didn't work, you still look like you're avoiding the only possible answer........
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You only think I didn't answer the question because you can't think something and have it became reality just by thinking. You don't have the best thinking. Your thinking can't begin to match the best thinking.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Where was that the goal? I was merely pointing out your lie about the case when you claimed it was only about Weisselberg's personal tax returns. So rather than admit you were in error you have simply moved the goalposts.
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ROFL......in the conversation I was having with Florifan, which you decided to stick your nose into........so then asking about Weissenberg's personal tax returns was the goalpost moving....the issue is Trump.....by the way aren't you forgetting to respond to the link I provided to the SC case you requested?......did I raise the goal posts too high for you to kick over them?........
 
PostmodernProphet said:
the "just thinking" is irrelevant........there are no restrictions at all on the president's power to declassify documents.......
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/484/518/#tab-opinion-1957333
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So you are saying the President isn't bound by the laws and regulations the President put in place?

By the way, the ruling doesn't say the President has no restriction on the power to declassify documents. That is your interpretation of his power to classify. But you fail to address the process put in place to classify documents and the process to declassify documents. Can the President classify something by just thinking about it? How is anyone to know it is classified if there isn't a process to identify and protect those documents? If the President just thinks something is classified can anyone that has that information then be prosecuted for having classified information even if the President has told no one that the information was classified? That would seem to be your argument.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
ROFL......in the conversation I was having with Florifan, which you decided to stick your nose into........so then asking about Weissenberg's personal tax returns was the goalpost moving....the issue is Trump.....by the way aren't you forgetting to respond to the link I provided to the SC case you requested?......did I raise the goal posts too high for you to kick over them?........
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It's so nice that Trump has nothing to do with the Trump Corporation. He isn't an executive there. He didn't sign any documents. I wonder why it even has his name since he has nothing to do with the crimes committed by the corporation and its executives.
 
Port Tack said:
Why aren't his lawyers claiming they were declassified?

The only ones Trump is telling that the documents were declassified are the ignorant shitheads like you that will believe it. Why doesn't he claim in court that everything was declassified?
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Not a problem, President Biden took care of it...

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Yakuda said:
No and he doesnt either but he says this shit and you morons turn in to retards looking g for a corner in a round room. It's hilarious how easily he can make you people dance to his tune. Now you're going to tell me how he going to jail right?
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Why are MAGA folks so dumb? Is it their schooling failed?

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