An incredibly astute summary of Trumpism.

Mote and bailey fallacy. You have no proof that if the people that managed to break into the US Capitol had found members of congress, that they'd have done anything violent to them.

Remember this nut goober?

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He's probably the poster child for the Capitol riot, wouldn't you agree?

Well, he was regularly involved in protests here in Arizona for well over a year prior to the Capitol riot, many times ones staged by the radical Left. In one he entered the state capitol building, looking much like he does in that picture, and ran into state legislators. He and they chatted a bit then he was escorted by police from the building. The odds are likely his behavior would have been exactly the same had he run into US legislators.

So your attempt to divert the conversation by what amounts to a bait and switch (the mote and bailey fallacy) is irrelevant.

I see. So if a person made a public threat to harm a person and proceed to that person's house and break in, planning to harm him or kill him but nobody's home, he didn't really mean to harm him. Interesting legal theory you got there.
 
I see. So if a person made a public threat to harm a person and proceed to that person's house and break in, planning to harm him or kill him but nobody's home, he didn't really mean to harm him. Interesting legal theory you got there.

He used the insanity defense and still got 41 months on his sentence. IMO, anyone who associates with Qanon should automatically be seen as a nutjob.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/17/politics/jacob-chansley-qanon-shaman-january-6-sentencing/index.html
Jacob Chansley, the so-called "QAnon Shaman," was sentenced to 41 months in prison for his role in the US Capitol riot.

The Justice Department had asked for Chansley to receive a harsh sentence as a way to set an example among the January 6 rioters, and prosecutors have positioned Chansley as emblematic of a barbaric crowd.

Since then, Chansley gained fame as the "QAnon Shaman," a figure known in the fringe online movement and for widely shared photos that captured him wearing face paint and a headdress inside the Senate chamber.

Judge Royce Lamberth has had Chansley held in jail since his arrest, despite his multiple attempts to gain sympathy and his release.

Other judges are likely to look to Lamberth's sentence as a possible benchmark, since Chansley is one of the first felony defendants among more than 660 Capitol riot cases to receive a punishment.

Pictures of Chansley at the Capitol went viral because of his bizarre appearance while leading others through the Capitol, shouting into a bullhorn. As one of the first 30 rioters inside the building, he made his way to the Senate dais that was hastily vacated earlier by then-Vice President Mike Pence, and left a note that read, "It's Only A Matter Of Time. Justice Is Coming!" according to his plea documents...

...After the riot and his arrest, Chansley asked then-President Donald Trump for a pardon. He also went on a hunger strike in an attempt to get organic food while in custody and spoke to "60 Minutes" from jail without permission. In September, Chansley pleaded to a felony charge of obstructing Congress' certification of the 2020 vote.
 
And this guy:

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Yes. And conceded in this beautiful speech, the kind of speech a low-rent slob like trump would never consider making.

Good evening.

Just moments ago, I spoke with George W. Bush and congratulated him on becoming the 43rd President of the United States, and I promised him that I wouldn't call him back this time.

I offered to meet with him as soon as possible so that we can start to heal the divisions of the campaign and the contest through which we just passed.

Almost a century and a half ago, Senator Stephen Douglas told Abraham Lincoln, who had just defeated him for the presidency, "Partisan feeling must yield to patriotism. I'm with you, Mr. President, and God bless you."

Well, in that same spirit, I say to President-elect Bush that what remains of partisan rancor must now be put aside, and may God bless his stewardship of this country.

Neither he nor I anticipated this long and difficult road. Certainly neither of us wanted it to happen. Yet it came, and now it has ended, resolved, as it must be resolved, through the honored institutions of our democracy.

Over the library of one of our great law schools is inscribed the motto, "Not under man but under God and law." That's the ruling principle of American freedom, the source of our democratic liberties. I've tried to make it my guide throughout this contest as it has guided America's deliberations of all the complex issues of the past five weeks."

(Continued)
 
Gore didn't "concede." He was shot down by the Supreme Court overruling his continued fight to keep recounting ballots in Florida until he won. It was just as egregious in its own way as Trump not wanting to concede.

Bull shit. He most certainly did concede.

"Now the U.S. Supreme Court has spoken. Let there be no doubt, while I strongly disagree with the court's decision, I accept it. I accept the finality of this outcome which will be ratified next Monday in the Electoral College. And tonight, for the sake of our unity of the people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession."
 
Gore didn't "concede." He was shot down by the Supreme Court overruling his continued fight to keep recounting ballots in Florida until he won. It was just as egregious in its own way as Trump not wanting to concede.

You know, after he conceded they found more votes for him in FL.

I say Bush threw the election for his bro. That and the California model is what Democrats based the 2020 election cheating on, and multiplied it across 7 states.
 
Bull shit. He most certainly did concede.

"Now the U.S. Supreme Court has spoken. Let there be no doubt, while I strongly disagree with the court's decision, I accept it. I accept the finality of this outcome which will be ratified next Monday in the Electoral College. And tonight, for the sake of our unity of the people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession."

And what was the date of that, hmm? I remember that day, because I was out working and heard about it and didn't care. Late December was it? After the New Year?

Ah! Dec 14th.
 
Yawn…for the hundredth time, yes I still support him. I voted for him twice and I’ll vote for him in ‘24 if he gets the nom. If he doesn’t I’ll vote for the guy who most closely aligns with Trump’s plan. Why do you keep starting this thread? Did you get hit in the head and have the memory of a goldfish as a consequence?

Let me ask you and your fellow biden-blowers now. Do you still support that degenerate imbecile you voted for?

There is definitely something wrong with him, let's see how many subsidiary threads the twat spawns.
 
Mote and bailey fallacy. You have no proof that if the people that managed to break into the US Capitol had found members of congress, that they'd have done anything violent to them.

Remember this nut goober?

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He's probably the poster child for the Capitol riot, wouldn't you agree?

Well, he was regularly involved in protests here in Arizona for well over a year prior to the Capitol riot, many times ones staged by the radical Left. In one he entered the state capitol building, looking much like he does in that picture, and ran into state legislators. He and they chatted a bit then he was escorted by police from the building. The odds are likely his behavior would have been exactly the same had he run into US legislators.

So your attempt to divert the conversation by what amounts to a bait and switch (the mote and bailey fallacy) is irrelevant.

But YOU'RE not trying to "divert the conversation" by pointing out an obviously mentally-ill individual and claiming that he represents all the armed, violent insurrections who injured over 100 LEOs, tried to find and hang the VP, smeared their shit around our Capitol, stole stuff -- including Pelosi's laptop -- and tried to halt the counting of elector votes in order to keep your #MalignantMessiah on the throne. Of course not. And the fact that nearly 1,000 of them have been identified, arrested, charged, and convicted with various crimes -- including sedition -- is all a big legal system conspiracy, right?

If you had lived 150 years ago, you would have bought the traveling snake oil salesman's entire stock. :laugh:
 
I see. So if a person made a public threat to harm a person and proceed to that person's house and break in, planning to harm him or kill him but nobody's home, he didn't really mean to harm him. Interesting legal theory you got there.

Especially given the fact that quite a few of our Reichwingers here have screeched for weeks about the mentally-ill guy who showed up at BeerMe Kavanaugh's intending to kidnap/harm him and his family, but then called 911 on himself and was arrested with no harm to the justice. We need a bigger eyeroll emoji for this one.

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Especially given the fact that quite a few of our Reichwingers here have screeched for weeks about the mentally-ill guy who showed up at BeerMe Kavanaugh's intending to kidnap/harm him and his family, but then called 911 on himself and was arrested with no harm to the justice. We need a bigger eyeroll emoji for this one.

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LOL. That's a very, very excellent the most exellentest point of all. :)
 
So far you are an army of 1.

I'm on a short vacation. And I'm bored, so lets play. I answered your question, answer mine. Do you still support that degenerate imbecile you voted for? Maybe you need a little nudge.

Remember how Trump was gonna get us in a war if he was elected? Well, that didn't happen, but I just heard that putin is threatening to use nukes in Ukraine. Fucking nuclear weapons. And your tater head is jabbering on about proportionate responses.

We went from 4 years of getting a taste of what long term peace and prosperity could look like for America, to this clusterfuck that gets more fucked by the day.
 
I'm on a short vacation. And I'm bored, so lets play. I answered your question, answer mine. Do you still support that degenerate imbecile you voted for? Maybe you need a little nudge.

Remember how Trump was gonna get us in a war if he was elected? Well, that didn't happen, but I just heard that putin is threatening to use nukes in Ukraine. Fucking nuclear weapons. And your tater head is jabbering on about proportionate responses.

We went from 4 years of getting a taste of what long term peace and prosperity could look like for America, to this clusterfuck that gets more fucked by the day.

Depends on what you mean by support and I assume you are talking about Biden, I support him, but not in the way your ilk support Trump. Biden makes mistakes and is not the best person for the job. He could easily lose an election could easily make a huge mistake. I hope a younger more liberal Democrat runs against him for the nomination and if one does Ill support that person. I do not think Biden has committed any impeachable offences, but if he had Id support removing him. I do not believe there is an organized cabal against him and I believe he is being treating fairly.
 
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