Donbas, Kherson and Zaporizhia regions to hold referenda on becoming Russian...

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....seven months too late. LOL

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/20/pro-russian-separatists-in-ukraine-to-hold-annexation-votes
Pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine to hold annexation votes
Separatists in Donbas, Kherson and Zaporizhia regions to hold referendums on joining Russia from September 23 to 27.

Vehicles drive past advertising boards, including panels displaying pro-Russian slogans, in a street in the course of Russia-Ukraine conflict in Luhansk, Ukraine September 20, 2022

Officials in four Russian-controlled regions in eastern and southern Ukraine have said they will hold referendums on becoming part of Russia from September 23 to 27, which could set the stage for Moscow to escalate the war.
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If Putin had rolled into the Separatist areas and then held the vote, Ukraine, and others, would have bitched, but nothing would have been done about it. Putin fucked over himself, his own people and the pro-Russian Ukrainians with his war and seven months of war crimes.

This will never be over until Russia is out of Ukraine and Ukraine has recovered all captured territories.
 
From the link:

...Ukraine dismissed it as a stunt by Russia to try to reclaim the initiative after crushing losses on the battlefield...

Agreed. It's stupid of Putin to think this will work.


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Dutch Uncle said:
From the link:

...Ukraine dismissed it as a stunt by Russia to try to reclaim the initiative after crushing losses on the battlefield...

Agreed. It's stupid of Putin to think this will work.
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A sham referendum will do nothing to stop HIMARs raining down on the heads of the occupiers.
 
Cypress said:
A sham referendum will do nothing to stop HIMARs raining down on the heads of the occupiers.
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The pro-Putin dumbass thinks this is something between Putin and Zelensky ("the Jew" she says under her breath) when it's really between Putin and the Ukrainian people.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The pro-Putin dumbass thinks this is something between Putin and Zelensky ("the Jew" she says under her breath) when it's really between Putin and the Ukrainian people.
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The principle of sovereignty is at stake. We can't live in a world where powerful nations can try to take land from their neighbors by military force.
 
Cypress said:
The principle of sovereignty is at stake. We can't live in a world where powerful nations can try to take land from their neighbors by military force.
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Agreed....and more nations are speaking up about it.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/17/world/modi-putin-russia-ukraine-war-rebuke-intl-hnk/index.html
Indian leader Narendra Modi tells Putin: Now is not the time for war
Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi appears to have directly rebuffed Moscow's invasion of Ukraine, telling Russian President Vladimir Putin that now is not the time for war.

In what was the latest in a series of setbacks for the Russian leader, Modi told him of the need to "move onto a path of peace" and reminded him of the importance of "democracy, diplomacy and dialogue".

The comments from Modi came during a face-to-face meeting on Friday, on the sidelines of a regional summit, and highlighted Russia's increasing isolation on the diplomatic stage. They came just a day after Putin conceded that China, too, had "questions and concerns" over the invasion.

"I know that today's era is not of war and we have talked to you many times over the phone on the subject that democracy and diplomacy and dialogue are all these things that touch the world," Modi told Putin during the Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit in the city of Samarkand in Uzbekistan....
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It appears the only people who want war are Putin and Ms. Moon's people.
 
China voices concern:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/15/asia/xi-putin-meeting-main-bar-intl-hnk/index.html
Putin concedes China has 'questions and concerns' over Russia's faltering invasion of Ukraine
Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday praised China's "balanced position" on the Ukraine war, though he conceded Beijing had "questions and concerns" over the invasion, in what appeared to be a veiled admission of their diverging views over the protracted military assault.

Putin made the comments when meeting Chinese leader Xi Jinping in person for the first time since the invasion at a regional summit in Uzbekistan, days after Russia suffered a series of major military setbacks in Ukraine. Russian troops are retreating en mass, having lost more territory in a week than they captured in five months.

China has so far refused to outright condemn Russia's unprovoked attack on Ukraine while stepping up economic assistance to its neighbor, boosting bilateral trade to record levels in a boon to Russian business amid Western sanctions.

"We highly appreciate the balanced position of our Chinese friends in connection with the Ukrainian crisis. We understand your questions and concerns in this regard," Putin said in an opening speech of the meeting. "During today's meeting, of course, we will explain in detail our position on this issue, although we have spoken about this before."

Xi said China would "work with Russia to extend strong mutual support on issues concerning each other's core interests" and "play a leading role in injecting stability and positive energy into a world of change and disorder," according to a readout from the meeting provided by the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Xi also said he appreciated "Russia's adherence to the one-China principle and stressed that Taiwan is a part of China."
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Dutch Uncle said:
From the link:

...Ukraine dismissed it as a stunt by Russia to try to reclaim the initiative after crushing losses on the battlefield...

Agreed. It's stupid of Putin to think this will work.


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Which closely coincides with major majority, Russian speaking areas. The voting referendum worked in Crimea.

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Bigdog said:
Which closely coincides with major majority, Russian speaking areas. The voting referendum worked in Crimea.

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That's Russian language use, pup....in 2003. By that logic, much of Texas and Florida belongs to Mexico and Cuba.

After 7 months of Russian atrocities against Ukrainians, regardless if they spoke Russian or not, I doubt there's much support for Russia in Ukraine....but you can keep hoping!
 
Dutch Uncle said:
That's Russian language use, pup....in 2003. By that logic, much of Texas and Florida belongs to Mexico and Cuba.

After 7 months of Russian atrocities against Ukrainians, regardless if they spoke Russian or not, I doubt there's much support for Russia in Ukraine....but you can keep hoping!
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Well, I invite you to post the 2022 map.

I wish hot mic Obama had never given the Crimea to Russia. Oh, well.

Tx. and Fla.? ... your logic is flawed.

Then let them have a democratic referendum. It is the only way to know for sure.
 
Bigdog said:
Well, I invite you to post the 2022 map.

I wish hot mic Obama had never given the Crimea to Russia. Oh, well.

Tx. and Fla.? ... your logic is flawed.

Then let them have a democratic referendum. It is the only way to know for sure.
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LOL Dumbass, you're the one trying to pass off a 2003 map as proof they're all going to vote Russian. Now you want me to prove you wrong? No wonder you're a Trumper.

Obama, Obama, Obama. :laugh: :rofl2: :laugh: Jesus fucking Christ; when will you dumbasses get over him?

You used language to determine borders, pup. Think it through.
 
Bigdog said:
Which closely coincides with major majority, Russian speaking areas. The voting referendum worked in Crimea.

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Just because we speak English doesn't mean we want to be annexed by England.

The Russian-speaking cities of Marupiel and Kharkiv were reduced to smouldering piles of ash. That is one hell of a way to "liberate" Russian-speaking Ukranians.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
LOL Dumbass, you're the one trying to pass off a 2003 map as proof they're all going to vote Russian. Now you want me to prove you wrong? No wonder you're a Trumper.

Obama, Obama, Obama. :laugh: :rofl2: :laugh: Jesus fucking Christ; when will you dumbasses get over him?

You used language to determine borders, pup. Think it through.
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No, Putin is using a common language to aid in annexing territories, not me.

You complained about the map. You got a better one?

Obama gave the Crimea to Pootie. Why do you want to give Obama a pass, DU?
 
Cypress said:
Just because we speak English doesn't mean we want to be annexed by England.

The Russian-speaking cities of Marupiel and Kharkiv were reduced to smouldering piles of ash. That is one hell of a way to "liberate" Russian-speaking Ukranians.
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By bigdog's logic, Britain can invade the US and take all English-speaking regions. LOL
 
Cypress said:
Just because we speak English doesn't mean we want to be annexed by England.

The Russian-speaking cities of Marupiel and Kharkiv were reduced to smouldering piles of ash. That is one hell of a way to "liberate" Russian-speaking Ukranians.
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I never said it did. I have no plans to annex Canada. :palm:

Create a crisis, then don't let it go to waste. That is the white lib way. If those people have nothing now, what are they going to do? Will they accept a gov't handout from Pootie like the Crimeans did?
 
What is the Donbas?
The Donbas region of Ukraine refers to the old coal and steel-producing areas in the east.

The regions, Luhansk and Donetsk, run from outside Mariupol in the south all the way to the northern border.

Russia formally recognises these breakaway areas as independent from Ukraine.

Russian forces seized more than a third of the area after Russia annexed Crimea in 2014. Donbas is predominantly Russian-speaking and Putin has repeatedly spoken about "liberating" it completely.

Despite sharing a language, these areas are no longer pro-Russian.

Defence specialist Konrad Muzyka, head of Rochan Consulting, said: "Mariupol was one of the most pro-Russian cities in Ukraine and to level it is beyond my comprehension."

https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...bilisation-zelensky-latest#live-1672143-787op
 
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