Wrong. They are trying to unconstitutionally usurp States rights which they cannot do. This will never pass muster in the Supreme Court and never get bi-partisan support.
Congress eyes strongest response yet to Jan. 6 attack
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Wrong. They are trying to unconstitutionally usurp States rights which they cannot do. This will never pass muster in the Supreme Court and never get bi-partisan support.
No. They are claiming it is unclear. Its not. It is written in the vernacular of the day.
It seems that 2020 was not the first time there have been issues regarding the validity on electoral ballots (ergo this bill). Team Donkey didnt like that all it took was one senator objecting to throw a spanner into the works so they mean to remove this protection meant to insure the will of the people is heard.
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The bills are only to clarify. Sorry, your Trump fascism will be defeated.
Federal elections are already federalized, dumbass.
Now claim the election was stolen but never do anything about it.
For those who never read the link: Pence refused to do so, but it was clear afterward that there was no real legal framework, or recourse, to respond under the 1887 law if the vice president had tried to block the count. The House and Senate bills would better define the vice president’s ministerial role and make clear that he or she has no say in the final outcome.
That was pretty funny, makes you wonder if he even knows what the word Federal means
you boys are the ones eliminating personal rights in favor of political strong arming.
and everyone sees it...
BidenPresident
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That has nothing to do with topic of thread.
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The House bill reaffirms that the vice president's role in Congress' certification of the newly elected president is ceremonial and that he or she has no power to suspend or overturn the certification.
Trump and his allies in Congress had urged then-Vice President Mike Pence to stop the process and challenged various states' results as they falsely claimed Biden's victory was the result of voter fraud. Pence declined.
The legislation would toughen the standards for members of Congress to raise objections to any state's certification. At present, only one member from the House and one from the Senate are required. Under the bill, that would change to one-third of the 435-member House and 100-member Senate.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/jan-6-attack-prompts-us-house-launch-makeover-1887-law-2022-09-19/
Trump and his allies in Congress had urged then-Vice President Mike Pence to stop the process and challenged various states' results as they falsely claimed Biden's victory was the result of voter fraud. Pence declined.
The legislation would toughen the standards for members of Congress to raise objections to any state's certification. At present, only one member from the House and one from the Senate are required. Under the bill, that would change to one-third of the 435-member House and 100-member Senate.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/jan-6-attack-prompts-us-house-launch-makeover-1887-law-2022-09-19/
I disagree. It has everything to do with the topic of this thread.
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Thread is about Electoral College. Not eliminating it.
Can't eliminate the EC; not enough states to put it up to a vote much less ratify it.
its about eliminating oversight of the process of operating it and maintaining legitimacy.
Disagreed. It's a bipartisan move to tighten oversight and maintain legitimacy. Did you even read the link?
The only people against this are the Trumpian cocksuckers.
Congress does not have authority to change the Constitution.
Fascism is a form of socialism (Democrats). Trump is a conservative. Buzzword fallacy.
Yes it does.
It's sad when their minds go. I hope to dodge that issue if foreseen.
Too late for you, dude...and there is no treatment for your condition. Your hallucinations are getting worse as well.
Congress has no authority to change the Constitution. You cannot wish the evidence away. There was no election.
You want to eliminate it. You also want to simply declare an election 'certified' when no election took place.