Putin 'finished' as Russians record 'astonishing failure'

I said that if the military action turned out badly that Putin would be gone.

I just want to put that out there....and that who leads Russia next might very well be worse for us.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I said that if the military action turned out badly that Putin would be gone.

I just want to put that out there....and that who leads Russia next might very well be worse for us.
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It has already been "put out there". It seems the forces moving against him are mostly moderating forces from the oligarchs, likely a good sign "for us".
 
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Ukraine has pulled off 'one of the greatest counter attacks in modern history': Military expert JUSTIN BRONK says Vladimir Putin has NO good options and Russia's entire invasion force could COLLAPSE in worst defeat since WW2

Vladimir Putin has no good options for how to react after a lightning offensive by Ukraine inflicted Russia's most serious and rapid military defeat on the battlefield since the Second World War, a military expert said today.

JUSTIN BRONK, a research fellow at London's Royal United Services Institute, has analysed the latest situation in an article for MailOnline today as Ukrainian troops continued to pile pressure on retreating Russian forces.

Ukraine is now seeking to hold onto its sudden momentum that has produced major territorial gains, with Russian troops surrendering en masse amid hopes that a turning point in the war has finally been reached.

The counter-offensive left the Kremlin struggling for a response to its largest military defeat in Ukraine since Russia pulled back from areas near Kyiv after a botched attempt to capture the capital early in the invasion.

It comes as Russia's state media war correspondent Alexander Sladkov accidentally revealed the scale of their losses in Ukraine, telling the Kremlin-run Rossiya 1 news channel that a 'huge number of people' have died.

Mr Bronk said Ukraine has 'baited Russia into accepting an attritional battle in a very militarily disadvantageous position', adding that Russia 'will be hard pressed simply to avoid any more disasters before winter'.

The expert, who also gave his analysis to MailOnline in a video, said it had been 'one of the most successful counter-offensives we've seen in modern history in terms of territory gained over a given speed of advance'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/...kraine-says-military-expert-JUSTIN-BRONK.html
 
Primavera said:
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Ukraine has pulled off 'one of the greatest counter attacks in modern history': Military expert JUSTIN BRONK says Vladimir Putin has NO good options and Russia's entire invasion force could COLLAPSE in worst defeat since WW2

Vladimir Putin has no good options for how to react after a lightning offensive by Ukraine inflicted Russia's most serious and rapid military defeat on the battlefield since the Second World War, a military expert said today.

JUSTIN BRONK, a research fellow at London's Royal United Services Institute, has analysed the latest situation in an article for MailOnline today as Ukrainian troops continued to pile pressure on retreating Russian forces.

Ukraine is now seeking to hold onto its sudden momentum that has produced major territorial gains, with Russian troops surrendering en masse amid hopes that a turning point in the war has finally been reached.

The counter-offensive left the Kremlin struggling for a response to its largest military defeat in Ukraine since Russia pulled back from areas near Kyiv after a botched attempt to capture the capital early in the invasion.

It comes as Russia's state media war correspondent Alexander Sladkov accidentally revealed the scale of their losses in Ukraine, telling the Kremlin-run Rossiya 1 news channel that a 'huge number of people' have died.

Mr Bronk said Ukraine has 'baited Russia into accepting an attritional battle in a very militarily disadvantageous position', adding that Russia 'will be hard pressed simply to avoid any more disasters before winter'.

The expert, who also gave his analysis to MailOnline in a video, said it had been 'one of the most successful counter-offensives we've seen in modern history in terms of territory gained over a given speed of advance'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/...kraine-says-military-expert-JUSTIN-BRONK.html
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What courageous fighters the Ukrainians are!

May Dios protect them in their victory over the naked aggression by the filthy and cowardly Russians.
 
Earl said:
What courageous fighters the Ukrainians are!

May Dios protect them in their victory over the naked aggression by the filthy and cowardly Russians.
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They've lost a huge number of men as well, although the daily rate is now in the low hundreds rather than thousands. The Russians are estimated to have over 80,000 killed or wounded, a truly staggering number.
 
Primavera said:
They've lost a huge number of men as well, although the daily rate is now in the low hundreds rather than thousands. The Russians are estimated to have over 80,000 killed or wounded, a truly staggering number.
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Quite a few Russian generals have been killed. Chop off the heads of the snake and the snake dies.

An old friend at the five sided building tells me that there are Americans and fighters from many other countries standing alongside the Ukrainians.

This is a righteous war for the Ukrainian fighters. They are defending the Motherland.

Were I a bit younger...
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I said that if the military action turned out badly that Putin would be gone.

I just want to put that out there....and that who leads Russia next might very well be worse for us.
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You think Putin has been good for us, no, he has been good for Trump. His meddling in the 2016 election was a big help to DJT victory.
 
floridafan said:
You think Putin has been good for us, no, he has been good for Trump. His meddling in the 2016 election was a big help to DJT victory.
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There was no Russian collusion by President Trump.

There was Russian collusion by the Democrats...the Steele Dossier paid for by Hilary’s DNC.
 
Earl said:
There was no Russian collusion by President Trump.

There was Russian collusion by the Democrats...the Steele Dossier paid for by Hilary’s DNC.
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Everything that Trump was accused of regarding Russia was true. Only he had Bill Barr lying for him from the very beginning.
 
floridafan said:
Everything that Trump was accused of regarding Russia was true. Only he had Bill Barr lying for him from the very beginning.
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No.

No Russian collusion except by the Democrats.

No obstruction of justice.

President Trump was exonerated of all charges by the Senate.
 
I'm not going to underestimate Putin. IMO, he had a good idea of the opposition he would face after years of fighting in the Donbas. He may just be trying to draw forces away from the areas he really wants. Or he wants them to show their hand or concentrate troops for easier aerial targeting.

IMO, his goal, in the end, is to gain as much majority Russian speaking territory as possible.

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Hawkeye10 said:
I said that if the military action turned out badly that Putin would be gone.

I just want to put that out there....and that who leads Russia next might very well be worse for us.
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No offense.

But I think almost EVERYONE on the planet knew that if the Russian invasion failed - that Putin would be gone.
 
Primavera said:
Putin 'finished' as Russians record 'astonishing failure' against 'well-prepared' Ukraine

Russia could face a major failure as Ukrainian troops continue to record great achievements in their counter-offensive campaign to retake control over Russian-occupied regions in the southeast.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...-failure-Kharkiv-Ukraine-counter-offensive-vn
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Kremlinology has always been more guesswork than science. It is hard to say what is happening there, but the number of oil officials suddenly dying is a bad sign. It shows Putin is scared.

It is hard to hide losing a war.
 
Walt said:
Kremlinology has always been more guesswork than science. It is hard to say what is happening there, but the number of oil officials suddenly dying is a bad sign. It shows Putin is scared.

It is hard to hide losing a war.
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I give you Almost Never Right Walt.
 
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