Properties of fascism

[Into the Night]

donations matter. big donors often get special treatement.

if you cannot acknowledge this, you're just a fucking obvious liar.

Sure donations matter. So does every political opinion expressed on JPP (including your own), no matter how fucked up it is.

 

[Shoresy]

a sense of overwhelming crisis beyond the reach of any traditional solutions;

Corana as justification for implementing draconian lockdowns in blue cities and states and the holding of overtly unconstitutional elections.

the primacy of the group, toward which one has duties superior to every right, whether individual or universal, and the subordination of the individual

Identity politics 101.

the belief that one’s group is a victim, a sentiment that justifies any action, without legal or moral limits, against its enemies, both internal and external;

Identity politics and perpetual victimhood of the lefts intersectional movement.

dread of the group’s decline under the corrosive effects of individualistic liberalism, class conflict, and alien influences;

Intersectionality is all about collectivism and abhors individualistic liberalism.

the need for closer integration of a purer community, by consent if possible, or by exclusionary violence if necessary;

Is that straight from the BLM manifesto?

the need for authority by natural leaders (always male), culminating in a national chief who alone is capable of incarnating the group’s destiny;

Obama.

the superiority of the leader’s instincts over abstract and universal reason;

the beauty of violence and the efficacy of will, when they are devoted to the group’s success;

BLM/Antifa fully endorsed by the DNC.

the right of the chosen people to dominate others without restraint from any kind of human or divine law, right being decided by the sole criterion of the group’s prowess within a Darwinian struggle.

WEF and Klaus "we create the futire" Schwab.

You forgot a corporatist economic system IE "private-public partnership".

 

[Into the Night]

i wish you fucking libertarians would go be romney ite fascists and quit pretending you give a fuck.

you hilarious libertarian FEDS who "hate the state".

stop lying to everyone.

Redefinition fallacies (Romney<->Libertarian, capitalism<->socialism, Libertarian<->Federalist, fascism<->corporation).

I don't support Romney and never have. The man's a RINO and a chameleon. He's a liar. He has long since left the teachings of Jesus Christ and the LDS church.
I am not a Federalist nor a Loyalist nor a Democrat (all the same bunch...just different names). Stop gaslighting. That in and of itself is lying.
I am not a Libertarian either. I am a conservative. My only aim is to restore the Constitution and a republic form of government. It is the best way to serve the needs and desires of people. It is the best way to enhance capitalism.

Well...not quite my ONLY aim, I have personal goals as well, including keeping my corporation profitable. My business makes instrumentation for industrial, aerospace, medical, and entertainment market uses. I sell my instruments worldwide, making my corporation international. My instruments help make paper, treat city sewage, help out your local concrete batch plant, run equipment in canneries and bottling companies, help make plywood, steel, and aluminum, help jet aircraft handle their fuel more efficiently while in flight, allow a couple of satellites to function more reliably, help make surgery less intrusive (and painful!), provide equipment for more accurate diagnosis in hospitals, and even help some video game consoles be easier to use.

Yet YOU call me 'evil'. YOU call me 'fascist'. YOU call me of all things a Democrat AND you call me a Libertarian!!! YOU think I'm part of the government. YOU think my posting political opinions or donating to a campaign of my choice is 'evil'.

No, you are fucked up. You have NO IDEA what a corporation is, what it does, or what the Constitution is, or what it does. You have no idea what any form of economy is, including communism, fascism, or capitalism. You have NO IDEA what I have to go through to satisfy some fucked up government bureaucrat and his regulations. I have to deal with the FAA, the FCC, NASA, the FDA, the AMA, and the EPA and all of their intrusive regulations every day. Yet YOU seem to think I own them somehow!



No, you are fucked up.

 

[Phyllis Diller]

Redefinition fallacies (Romney<->Libertarian, capitalism<->socialism, Libertarian<->Federalist, fascism<->corporation).

I don't support Romney and never have. The man's a RINO and a chameleon. He's a liar. He has long since left the teachings of Jesus Christ and the LDS church.
I am not a Federalist nor a Loyalist nor a Democrat (all the same bunch...just different names). Stop gaslighting. That in and of itself is lying.
I am not a Libertarian either. I am a conservative. My only aim is to restore the Constitution and a republic form of government. It is the best way to serve the needs and desires of people. It is the best way to enhance capitalism.

Well...not quite my ONLY aim, I have personal goals as well, including keeping my corporation profitable. My business makes instrumentation for industrial, aerospace, medical, and entertainment market uses. I sell my instruments worldwide, making my corporation international. My instruments help make paper, treat city sewage, help out your local concrete batch plant, run equipment in canneries and bottling companies, help make plywood, steel, and aluminum, help jet aircraft handle their fuel more efficiently while in flight, allow a couple of satellites to function more reliably, help make surgery less intrusive (and painful!), provide equipment for more accurate diagnosis in hospitals, and even help some video game consoles be easier to use.

Yet YOU call me 'evil'. YOU call me 'fascist'. YOU call me of all things a Democrat AND you call me a Libertarian!!! YOU think I'm part of the government. YOU think my posting political opinions or donating to a campaign of my choice is 'evil'.

No, you are fucked up. You have NO IDEA what a corporation is, what it does, or what the Constitution is, or what it does. You have no idea what any form of economy is, including communism, fascism, or capitalism. You have NO IDEA what I have to go through to satisfy some fucked up government bureaucrat and his regulations. I have to deal with the FAA, the FCC, NASA, the FDA, the AMA, and the EPA and all of their intrusive regulations every day. Yet YOU seem to think I own them somehow!



No, you are fucked up.

what's your glitch with fascism?

 

[Into the Night]

For example, there are plenty of State owned oil industries that still exist as corporations.

Not in the States of America.

Remind me again of your definition of communism, please.

Government ownership of markets. Despite attempts by Democrats, the government does not own the oil market. It does manipulate it though. That is fascism, not communism.
The government does not own any oil company or corporation.

 

[Phyllis Diller]

Sure donations matter. So does every political opinion expressed on JPP (including your own), no matter how fucked up it is.

and money is not speech. you're a slick bastard aren't you.

why deny the influence then, of massive corporate donations?

 

[Phyllis Diller]

Yes it is. Government should be subservient to people (and corporations), not the other way around. This is the whole point of a republic as a form of government. Government by law is inherently limited.

We are not a democracy and never were. The United States was organized as a federated republic. It has a constitution, and so do each of the States. Even every county or parish and every city has a constitution (often called a 'charter), operating under the authority of the State constitution.

Redefinition fallacy (conservative<->fascist, corporation<->fascism). Sorry dude, you don't get to redefine any word.

Redefinition fallacy (conservative<->libertarian, corporation<->void). Corporations are made up of people, dude. Every corporation was created by at least two people, who are the principle investors, and any they hire to help conduct their business. A corporation is simply a way to organize a business. A business, any business, is not fascism. It doesn't matter if it happens to be organized as a corporation, LLC, partnership, or sole proprietor.

So you want to discard the 1st amendment. No, you don't get to do that. Too many people in this country still uphold and honor the Constitution of the United States, even though the Democrats don't.

corporations are not people tho.

fascist again.

you're an addicted mind-addled fascist.

 

[Phyllis Diller]

Illiteracy: Failure to capitalize the beginning of sentences.

Logic errors: Bigotry. Redefinition fallacy (evil<->large corporation).

A corporation can certainly conduct itself in an evil or unlawful way, but that is not all corporations, or if it occurs, not all the time. To assume such is called 'bigotry'. Even then, they are not government.

You seem to have a problem with the Libertarian party. Fine. That is your right. It IS a logical fallacy to assume that anyone that disagrees with you is a member of the Libertarian party however. That's called 'bigotry'.

In the case of so-called 'big tech':
Twitter and Facebook, being websites claim protections under FRN Title 45, $230. This law protects websites from civil lawsuits over libel resulting from opinions by their users. Any forum website (such as JPP!) is also protected by this same law. JPP cannot be sued for any libel made by you. YOU are responsible, not JPP. Being a blind forum, JPP will not release personal information until directed to by the court, and only as specifically directed by the court. This is the other side of Section 230, and conforms with the 5th amendment.

Lately, both Twitter and Facebook have been censoring their users for political reasons, imposing their OWN view upon their sites. Many forum websites have done the same. JPP has not. ANY website that does so has LOST Section 230 protection, and is open to libel suits. Some people are already suing them.

The land of technology is an ever changing one. People have gotten pretty disgusted with the behavior of Twitter, for example. An open source version has been available for some time, called Gab. Many have moved there. I you like this type of service, I suggest you move there. Facebook itself is being replaced by other competing websites as well, some of them running as open source.

Forums that do this have competition from forums that choose not to be so abusive. JPP is a good example. Other political websites censor for political purposes. JPP doesn't. The rules here are simple and straightforward. NONE of them are politically based or used to censor for political reasons. There are other forums that are also good sites for open discussion, particularly in certain specific areas, such as global warming.

IBM used to be 'Big Tech'. They are almost a nothing now. Microsoft and later the open source community and the personal computer saw to that! Microsoft itself did not learn from that. They've been driven out of the automotive software market, cell phone market, web server market, portable media market, and they are now losing the desktop market. All to open source.

What is open source? It is capitalism. It is simply people writing their own software for others to use, and making their source code available. There are thousands of packages, including forum software and webserver software. There is even software to build yourself a web marketing site (similar to what Amazon does) entirely out of open source tools. The advantage of open source is that you have the source code. If you find a bug or want a new feature, just fix it or write it.

If you write stuff for the Cloud, there are three competitors providing these services: AWS (Amazon Web Services) is the most extensive (they invented the Cloud), Microsoft Azure (a rather distant 2nd place in the market), and Google Cloud Services (almost useless). NOTHING prevents you from forming another Cloud services company (or even a corporation!). There are numerous examples already available. Don't like AWS? Use Microsoft or fight with Google's problems, or you can always just write and provide your own services yourself (the old way of doing it!).

I don't think you realize just how much revenue Amazon lost because of their political censorship of one client on AWS. People saw that and Amazon lost a LOT of revenue for that one! They've learned their lesson on that one, for now.

On summary, AWS, Google, and Microsoft Azure can ONLY exist because they provide something that people want to buy. This is capitalism. None of these corporations own government. Have they screwed up? Yes. They paid for it too! A corporation is made up of people, and people screw up. They aren't perfect!

In the end, censorship doesn't work. Sooner or later, word gets out. Those who try to censor only remove themselves from the conversation. Want an example? Look at how ineffective ignore lists are on JPP.

You can't stop the signal, Mel. -- Serenity

of course "not all".

you're using idiotic debate club tactics now.

spare us all, fascist.

 

[Phyllis Diller]

Not only has ITN admitted to state capture, he believes it's how it should be.

 

[Into the Night]

youre going back and forth about corporate personhood....

Gaslighting. You don't get to change what I post.

our constitution has the force of law and laws do protect rights, in a real sense..

But it does not provide any right. Rights do not come from a piece of paper.

it's good they're written down and esconced in "law". It's what civilized people use, war-tard.

Redefinition fallacies (civilization<->constitution, law<->constitution, war<->peace, rights<->law).

Rights do not come from the Constitution or any other law. Rights do not come from a piece of paper. Again, you show your ignorance of what a constitution is for or what it does.

A constitution defines and declares a government, and gives it certain limited powers and authorities. It has NO OTHER other than that specifically given by that constitution. The owners of the constitution (those that created it, and those are the only ones that can modify it or even destroy it) is NOT the agent created by that constitution. A constitution is a contract. It is also the law for that government.

 

[Phyllis Diller]

What do you think of klaus schwab, motherfucker?!

 

[Phyllis Diller]

Gaslighting. You don't get to change what I post.

But it does not provide any right. Rights do not come from a piece of paper.

Redefinition fallacies (civilization<->constitution, law<->constitution, war<->peace, rights<->law).

Rights do not come from the Constitution or any other law. Rights do not come from a piece of paper. Again, you show your ignorance of what a constitution is for or what it does.

A constitution defines and declares a government, and gives it certain limited powers and authorities. It has NO OTHER other than that specifically given by that constitution. The owners of the constitution (those that created it, and those are the only ones that can modify it or even destroy it) is NOT the agent created by that constitution. A constitution is a contract. It is also the law for that government.

yes... so.... and..... you pretend there's no value or meaning in it.

you and your bitch-ass games.

 

[Phyllis Diller]

Gaslighting. You don't get to change what I post.

But it does not provide any right. Rights do not come from a piece of paper.

Redefinition fallacies (civilization<->constitution, law<->constitution, war<->peace, rights<->law).

Rights do not come from the Constitution or any other law. Rights do not come from a piece of paper. Again, you show your ignorance of what a constitution is for or what it does.

A constitution defines and declares a government, and gives it certain limited powers and authorities. It has NO OTHER other than that specifically given by that constitution. The owners of the constitution (those that created it, and those are the only ones that can modify it or even destroy it) is NOT the agent created by that constitution. A constitution is a contract. It is also the law for that government.

I didn't.

you're going back and forth about corporate personhood.

 

[Phyllis Diller]

"rights can't come from piece of paper"

however......

its establishes the government and the laws for the government, a contract if you wish to call it that.

it fucking matters.

dumbass.


you're just in love with empty slogans.

 

[Into the Night]

don't act like corporations do not gain massive advantage through outsized government influence.

you're just lying right to our faces. you're like a dem.

get off the corporate cock, braindead libertarian fascist mouthbreather.

Illiteracy: Failure to capitalize sentences.
Logic errors: Insult fallacies. Redefinition fallacies (corporation<->evil, conservative<->Democrat, conservatism<->socialism, conservative<->libertarian, fascism<->conservatism, donation<->election). Argument of the Stone fallacy.

Discard of the Constitution of the United States. Discard of most State constitutions. Bigotry.

 

[Into the Night]

just stop.

you're embarrassing yourself.

Omniscience fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Where are you on the Klaus Schwab and the WEF? are they good people with laudable goals?

let's see who you really are.

RQAA.

 

[Phyllis Diller]

boy you got me hot right now.

motherfuck.

 

[Phyllis Diller]

RQAA.

oh yes, you're meaningless slogan boy.

 

[Into the Night]

what's your glitch with fascism?

RQAA