I keep my stolen top-secret documents organized isn't the defense Trump thinks it is.

[evince]

It’s ok for republicans to steal


Just ask them

 

[gfm7175]

Title is borrowed from a Twitter comment this morning. Seems an apt reply to Trump complaining the FBI pic of classified documents on his floor makes him "look like a slob". Trump wants you to know he's a very neat
thief.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-fbi-photo-like-a-slob_n_6310ceefe4b065bfc4b5f31c

[1] If these are "top secret" ohhhh sooooo special classified and sensitive documents and whatever, then why did the FBI spread them all over the floor, photograph them, and distribute said photographs around?

[2] Isn't what the FBI did regarding the documents and the raid illegal (on numerous fronts)?

 

[martin]

According to the Presidential Records act- THE DOCUMENTS ARE NOT HIS FOR THE TAKING TO BEGIN WITH!

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. ß2201-2209, governs the official records of Presidents and Vice Presidents that were created or received after January 20, 1981 (i.e., beginning with the Reagan Administration). The PRA changed the legal ownership of the official records of the President from private to public, and established a new statutory structure under which Presidents, and subsequently NARA, must manage the records of their Administrations. The PRA was amended in 2014, which established several new provisions.

Specifically, the PRA:

Establishes public ownership of all Presidential records and defines the term Presidential records.

Requires that Vice-Presidential records be treated in the same way as Presidential records.

Places the responsibility for the custody and management of incumbent Presidential records with the President.

Requires that the President and his staff take all practical steps to file personal records separately from Presidential records.

Allows the incumbent President to dispose of records that no longer have administrative, historical, informational, or evidentiary value, once the views of the Archivist of the United States on the proposed disposal have been obtained in writing

Establishes in law that any incumbent Presidential records (whether textual or electronic) held on courtesy storage by the Archivist remain in the exclusive legal custody of the President and that any request or order for access to such records must be made to the President, not NARA.

Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.

Establishes a process by which the President may restrict and the public may obtain access to these records after the President leaves office; specifically, the PRA allows for public access to Presidential records through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) beginning five years after the end of the Administration, but allows the President to invoke as many as six specific restrictions to public access for up to twelve years.

Codifies the process by which former and incumbent Presidents conduct reviews for executive privilege prior to public release of records by NARA (which had formerly been governed by Executive order 13489).

Establishes procedures for Congress, courts, and subsequent Administrations to obtain “special access” to records from NARA that remain closed to the public, following a privilege review period by the former and incumbent Presidents; the procedures governing such special access requests continue to be governed by the relevant provisions of E.O. 13489.

Establishes preservation requirements for official business conducted using non-official electronic messaging accounts: any individual creating Presidential records must not use non-official electronic messaging accounts unless that individual copies an official account as the message is created or forwards a complete copy of the record to an official messaging account. (A similar provision in the Federal Records Act applies to federal agencies.)

Prevents an individual who has been convicted of a crime related to the review, retention, removal, or destruction of records from being given access to any original records.

Even without that act they are not and could not be his property. Government documents are government property by definition. In order for any of it to be converted to personal property there would need to be a statute to that specific effect and there obviously isn't one. Trump's grand idea of "the Presidency" is much like the idea of a monarchy, the reverse of what the Founders invented.

 

[evince]

[1] If these are "top secret" ohhhh sooooo special classified and sensitive documents and whatever, then why did the FBI spread them all over the floor, photograph them, and distribute said photographs around?

[2] Isn't what the FBI did regarding the documents and the raid illegal (on numerous fronts)?

Because they knew you were very very stupid as well as dishonest

 

[McRocket]

I don't think the public knows yet, including myself, BUT I AM ALREADY SUSPECTING THE FBI AND THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAS PROOF THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS ALREADY SHARED, traded, OR SOLD SOME OF OUR TOP NUCLEAR SECRETS WITH OUR ADVERSARIES, in exchange for his personal financial and political gain, while exposing sources and methods while harming US National Security!

So...on the one hand...you admit you are not privy to any information.

And then you turn around and speculate on what you admit you do not know about...anyway?

Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.


I don't suppose you Bidenbots assuming Trump is innocent until proven guilty is an option?
No, I guess not.



Once again, I despise both parties.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Even without that act they are not and could not be his property. Government documents are government property by definition. In order for any of it to be converted to personal property there would need to be a statute to that specific effect and there obviously isn't one. Trump's grand idea of "the Presidency" is much like the idea of a monarchy, the reverse of what the Founders invented.

Donald Trump has lived his entire life being dishonest, trying to see what he can get away with, where rules, apologies, reading, education, traditions, truth, reality, manners, laws, taxes, ethics, serving in the military, and responsibility only apply to everyone else, but him.

BUT THAT IS WHAT THE REPUBLICANS WANTED- BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL JUST LIKE DONNIE IN REALITY- perhaps some did, at least, serve in the Military! But, Donnie-tard refers to them as "SUCKERS"!

They are all scumbags now just trying to cover each other's asses.

REPUBLICANS are now the SCUMBAG party!

 

[martin]

Because they knew you were very very stupid as well as dishonest

Without stupid voters there would never have been a President Trump. How is it not obvious that the photograph in question indicates the documents had top secret and secret classifications but does not show anything in the documents beyond cover sheets and blocked out pages?

 

[evince]

So...on the one hand...you admit you are not privy to any information.

And then you turn around and speculate on what you admit you do not know about...anyway?

Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.


I don't suppose you Bidenbots assuming Trump is innocent until proven guilty is an option?
No, I guess not.



Once again, I despise both parties.

He’s quilty as fuck


And that’s just from the evidence in the public



The FBI has mountains more


You Russians suck

 

[Noking]

I heard Trump sold the codes to Hunter Biden along with some pee stained bedsheets from a hotel in Russia.

I wouldn't put anything past Trump, and if there's anything slimy, then Trump is involved.