moon
Satire for Sanity
You can be absolutely certain that I get my own point.
That leaves.................................
Haw, haw..............................haw.
facts on the ground, Putin Failed!!!
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You can be absolutely certain that I get my own point.
That leaves.................................
Haw, haw..............................haw.
Noking
Fight authoritarianism support Noking
You got your own point backwards. That happens with ideologues. You seem rational except when the subject is Russia, unusual misdirection to say the least.
You can continue to parrot Kremlin media sources.
I get my Russian news from independent Russian journalists working for Meduza, Moscow Times, TV Rain.
moon
Satire for Sanity
This is the perfect dumbass reply.
Thank you for making it.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Russia Schmusha- I'm an observer, not a pseudo-patriotic chump with a flagpole up my ass.
Like I keep saying - you just don't get it. You're incapable of getting it.
moon
Satire for Sanity
You get dummer by the post. You are simply getting Russianized Western propaganda. What I want to see is THE RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA. Then there will be some balance. Unfortunately, it's banned/censored. That's what you're complaining about yourself, dumbass.
You still don't get it.
Haw, haw.................................haw.
Haw, haw.............................haw.
moon
Satire for Sanity
You're incapable of getting it. I suppose it's to be expected from a dumbass that thinks news from a source called ' Moscow Times ' which is in Holland and doesn't speak Russian could in some way be truthful.
Haw, haw......................................haw.
You never even heard of Moscow Times, Rain TV, or Meduza until 18 hours ago when you saw me write it. Just because you frantically googled it for ten seconds does not qualify you as having expert judgement about it.
The take away message from this thread is your open confession that you actively seek out Kremlin propaganda.
moon
Satire for Sanity
That's a fact- and just reading about one of your ' sources' - the ' Moscow Times ' in Holland that doesn't speak Russian- is enough to know that you're a simple-minded Western propaganda sponge. Good luck- but I don't know how you live with that flagpole up your ass.
Haw, haw.........................haw.
Can it be that the Cypress dumbass has actually managed to GRASP the fact that I want to read the Russian propaganda for balance ? No, probably not. You certainly believe that evaluating non-American propaganda implies Russophilia . That's why you're a marked dumbass.
Haw, haw, haw, haw, haw............................haw, haw.......................haw.
It depends what Putin's goal was.
If it was to conquer Ukraine proper?
He definitely failed.
If, however, the attacks on Kiev were diversionary.
And his true goal was to secure the Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts for the people in them who voted over 80% to leave Ukraine back in 2014?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Donbas_status_referendums
Then I would say he is succeeding...more or less.
He has already secured Luhansk.
And seems to (painfully slowly) be doing the same in Donetsk.
Either way, it is clear that the Russian military is not REMOTELY as powerful as many once feared.
Their performance during this war has been underwhelming to say the LEAST.
For the record.
I am for Russia helping the Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts to breakaway as they OVERWHELMINGLY voted to do 8 years ago.
But I am strongly against Russia trying to conquer any other territories.
If it was to conquer Ukraine proper?
He definitely failed.
If, however, the attacks on Kiev were diversionary.
And his true goal was to secure the Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts for the people in them who voted over 80% to leave Ukraine back in 2014?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Donbas_status_referendums
Then I would say he is succeeding...more or less.
He has already secured Luhansk.
And seems to (painfully slowly) be doing the same in Donetsk.
Either way, it is clear that the Russian military is not REMOTELY as powerful as many once feared.
Their performance during this war has been underwhelming to say the LEAST.
For the record.
I am for Russia helping the Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts to breakaway as they OVERWHELMINGLY voted to do 8 years ago.
But I am strongly against Russia trying to conquer any other territories.
Moscow Times, Editor-in-chief: Svetlana Korshunova
TV Rain, owner and CEO: Natalya Sindeyeva
Meduza, Editor-in-chief: Ivan Kolpakov
The purpose of these news organizations is to give space to independent Russian journalists who refuse to be Kremlin apparatchiks. A free press is suppressed by Putin.
But you would not appreciate or respect that because you openly confess to wanting to seek out Kremlin propaganda.
signalmankenneth
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U.S. Goes in for the Long-Haul With Latest Ukraine War Aid
My question with this is, suppose Trump or a Trumpian like person is president again?!! What would happen to the military aid to Ukraine?!! Ukraine has a lot of American weapons now and will need ammo and spare parts?!!
Russian soldiers patrol a destroyed part of the Illich Iron & Steel Works Metallurgical Plant in Mariupol, in territory under the control of the government of the Donetsk People's Republic, eastern Ukraine, Wednesday, May 18, 2022.
The $3 billion military aid package that President Joe Biden announced for Ukraine Wednesday shows his administration expects the war with Russia to last for many months or years, and signals Washington is in the fight for the duration.
The latest aid package is the largest to date and includes weaponry that won’t appear on the battlefield for a year or more. The promise of ongoing shipments of sophisticated, American-made weaponry well into the future, in contrast to previous tranches designed to help with ongoing battles or imminent counter-offensives, signals to Western allies, Ukraine and Russia that the U.S. intends to stick with the war, regardless of daily gains or losses.
“The United States of America is committed to supporting the people of Ukraine as they continue the fight to defend their sovereignty,” Biden said in a statement, announcing the aid package. “This will allow Ukraine to acquire air defense systems, artillery systems and munitions, counter-unmanned aerial systems, and radars to ensure it can continue to defend itself over the long-term.”
The package, which came on the 31st anniversary of Ukrainian independence from the Soviet Union, will include 245,000 rounds of 155mm artillery ammunition, surface-to-air missile systems and laser-guided rocket systems. While previous weapons were drawn from existing U.S. stockpiles to expedite delivery, many of these items have yet to be manufactured, and it could take as long as two years to reach the battlefield, administration officials say.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-goes-long-haul-latest-215554262.html
My question with this is, suppose Trump or a Trumpian like person is president again?!! What would happen to the military aid to Ukraine?!! Ukraine has a lot of American weapons now and will need ammo and spare parts?!!
Russian soldiers patrol a destroyed part of the Illich Iron & Steel Works Metallurgical Plant in Mariupol, in territory under the control of the government of the Donetsk People's Republic, eastern Ukraine, Wednesday, May 18, 2022.
The $3 billion military aid package that President Joe Biden announced for Ukraine Wednesday shows his administration expects the war with Russia to last for many months or years, and signals Washington is in the fight for the duration.
The latest aid package is the largest to date and includes weaponry that won’t appear on the battlefield for a year or more. The promise of ongoing shipments of sophisticated, American-made weaponry well into the future, in contrast to previous tranches designed to help with ongoing battles or imminent counter-offensives, signals to Western allies, Ukraine and Russia that the U.S. intends to stick with the war, regardless of daily gains or losses.
“The United States of America is committed to supporting the people of Ukraine as they continue the fight to defend their sovereignty,” Biden said in a statement, announcing the aid package. “This will allow Ukraine to acquire air defense systems, artillery systems and munitions, counter-unmanned aerial systems, and radars to ensure it can continue to defend itself over the long-term.”
The package, which came on the 31st anniversary of Ukrainian independence from the Soviet Union, will include 245,000 rounds of 155mm artillery ammunition, surface-to-air missile systems and laser-guided rocket systems. While previous weapons were drawn from existing U.S. stockpiles to expedite delivery, many of these items have yet to be manufactured, and it could take as long as two years to reach the battlefield, administration officials say.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-goes-long-haul-latest-215554262.html
30 seconds ago I had no problem opening the Kremlin controlled RT.com in a browser window
moon
Satire for Sanity
Post a link.
How about you turn up worthy of 25 seconds of time?
So long as we are at the wishing well....
moon
Satire for Sanity
Europe is struggling over fuel, many thousands of Ukrainians and Russians have died, much of Ukraine is rubble. If there is anybody that has benefited from this other than arms manufacturers and the US fuel industry I'd like to know who it is. It will point the way to motive.