Women Having To Flee States With Insane Restrictions on Abortions

ThatOwlWoman said:
Thank you for giving the sad forced-birther some much-needed attention. You're very kind. I will make another donation to PP in her name. Her pompous self-righteous scolding about abortion has gained them quite a bit of money over the 12 years it's been my misfortune to be followed by that dumb bimbo.
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Im actually pro choice up to 3 months or so.

but if i have to choose between no abortion and full term baby murder, I choose no abortion.

you people could have gotten a reasonable time window made into a federal law, but you held out for infanticide.

wrong choice.
 
The Dobbs v. Jackson Decision can now be called "Settled Law."

The left supported "Settled Law" until it wasn't.

Stare decisis...forever.
 
AssHatZombie said:
Im actually pro choice up to 3 months or so.

but if i have to choose between no abortion and full term baby murder, I choose no abortion.

you people could have gotten a reasonable time window made into a federal law, but you held out for infanticide.

wrong choice.
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It's a good thing that there IS no choice between abortion and full term baby murder, which is illegal in all 50 states.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Not if they are defunded like the (R)s want to do. It is a sad day for America when a citizen cannot receive needed medical care because we've let religious zealots, busybodies, and freedom-haters control what we can and cannot do with our own bodies.
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It is amazing that there are people willing to vote for the people who are "...religious zealots, busybodies, and freedom-haters control what we can and cannot do with our own bodies."

What a sad bunch they are.
 
AssHatZombie said:
late term abortions are very legal in many states.

that's what i meant and you know it.
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You ought really to write what you mean...so that there are no misunderstandings.


You wrote:

Im actually pro choice up to 3 months or so.

but if i have to choose between no abortion and full term baby murder, I choose no abortion.
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Okay, that makes sense. And others would say, "if it means no abortions allowed at all or abortions allowed right up until birth"...I would choose the latter.

That is the dilemma.

Where to draw the line IS the problem. And if your side is going to continue with the "it is a person from the moment of conception"...it would be insane for our side to start anywhere except "at the moment of birth."

Actually, just about nobody from our side wants anywhere near that point as our starting point...but your side's bullheadedness is forcing us there.
 
Walt said:
https://www.economist.com/united-st...ful-maternal-mortality-rate-looks-set-to-rise

We will already have the worst maternal mortality rate in the industrial world. Where a typical country has three mortality out of 100,000 live births, while the USA has a mortality rate of 17 (more than five times higher). States like Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi and Tennessee, are becoming illegal, already had mortality rates above 30. They will get much worse.

There are about 3.6 million births per year in the USA. If the mortality rate goes up by 10, there will be 3,600 more women that die. If you think abortion is murder, that might not be a lot of deaths. There might be about 600,000 abortions per year, and anti-abortion laws in some states might reduce the number of abortions by 10%. That would be 60,000 fetuses (or "unborn babies" as the Republicans call them). Maybe 3,600 women dying is worth saving 60,000...

But we should not lie. This is going to kill women.
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Leave it to the twumptard religious right to take us back to the days when people still thought the world was flat. Actually, I think twumptards STILL DO think the Earth is flat.
 
AssHatZombie said:
late term abortions are very legal in many states.

that's what i meant and you know it.
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They are legal ONLY in very narrow circumstances, which I've already delineated in a prior post. Are you in favor of forcing a woman to deliver a dead child or one that will die soon after birth? BTW, delivering a premature infant due to the mother's health is NOT an abortion.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
I said relatively inexpensive not cheap like you claim I said. But
I found bus fare from N. O. To Kansas city for about $129.00. To fill many cars from empty can cost 110 bucks. So bus fare isn't that expensive. Also there are many ways the poor could make the trip. Would you like some cheese with your whine?
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Congratulations, You got to KC, now you only have to pay $129 to get back again. And then you have the 26 hour bus ride there and the 26 hour bus ride back.

You said:
bus fare is relatively inexpensive. In fact less than $50 in most cases.
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In fact, I can't find a single bus from Texas to Kansas that costs less than $50 round trip.
I can't find a single bus from Mississippi to Kansas that costs less than $50 round trip.
The facts are that your "fact" is nothing but bullshit.
 
Frank Apisa said:
It is amazing that there are people willing to vote for the people who are "...religious zealots, busybodies, and freedom-haters control what we can and cannot do with our own bodies."

What a sad bunch they are.
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They are the reason we can't have nice things.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Congratulations, You got to KC, now you only have to pay $129 to get back again. And then you have the 26 hour bus ride there and the 26 hour bus ride back.

You said:


In fact, I can't find a single bus from Texas to Kansas that costs less than $50 round trip.
I can't find a single bus from Mississippi to Kansas that costs less than $50 round trip.
The facts are that your "fact" is nothing but bullshit.
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Good for you. You proved you can research fares.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
And I guess we proved you could care less about actual facts and prefer to make shit up so you can feel good about your position.
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Sorry but unlike you my points were general and not specific. You took a worse case scenario and tried to apply it across the board, that sport is dishonesty but I wouldn't expect a liberal twerp like you to be honest.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
They are legal ONLY in very narrow circumstances, which I've already delineated in a prior post. Are you in favor of forcing a woman to deliver a dead child or one that will die soon after birth? BTW, delivering a premature infant due to the mother's health is NOT an abortion.
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It is. It may be medically necessary however.

Is word games all you have?
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Sorry but unlike you my points were general and not specific. You took a worse case scenario and tried to apply it across the board, that sport is dishonesty but I wouldn't expect a liberal twerp like you to be honest.
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If they were honest they couldn't be the trash humans they love being.
 
Hello Poor Richard Saunders,

Poor Richard Saunders said:
Kansas City, Kansas. There are 3 clinics listed in that area. Since Kansas just voted I would assume those will stay open.
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Good clarification.

Did you like the article I linked?

Too bad it's too late to put Right To Abortion on the November ballot. But it could be interesting if it went on the 2024 ballot.
 
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