What's your most important issue today?

yes.

IM fine with that statement.

You stupid mother-fucker...it was a choice between two opposing things. Which are you fine with.

Jesus H. Christ, you are a moron....and having a discussion with a moron like you is difficult.

tariffs help assure that outcome.

What fucking "outcome." And do you know how tariffs work? (Obviously not.) So you are saying that the American people will be happy to pay $60 for a shirt made in the US that they can now buy for less than $20 if it is made in the third world?

Wake the fuck up.

so I advocate those, rather than voluntary unmandated feeble "where possible" statements indicating a half-hearted effort.

What you do is to state a moronic mantra time after time. You hate "globalists." Butt the "globalists" are American corporations making as much money for their shareholders as possible (often by outsourcing) and Americans who buy stuff from Walmart and other retailers who buy most of their merchandise from third world countries because their costs are so much less.

And tariffs cannot cure that, because we count on being able to sell OUR GOODS to other countries...and if we raise tariffs, THEY WILL RAISE THEM ALSO.
 
I would never say something like "inflation," painful as that is. Those kinds of economic issues work themselves out, and you generally just have to ride them out.

I don't like where America is heading from a governance standpoint. Christian Nationalism, a theocratic SCOTUS, suppression of voting rights - we're watching the dismantling of our beloved republic, in broad daylight. That's not emotionalism - it's what we're confronted with, and it's our biggest challenge.
 
I would never say something like "inflation," painful as that is. Those kinds of economic issues work themselves out, and you generally just have to ride them out.

I don't like where America is heading from a governance standpoint. Christian Nationalism, a theocratic SCOTUS, suppression of voting rights - we're watching the dismantling of our beloved republic, in broad daylight. That's not emotionalism - it's what we're confronted with, and it's our biggest challenge.

Everything is impermanent. Human society is like a living thing; we can't attack one side of it, one way or another, without it affecting the entire organism. Too many people see life in the US as a Zero-Sum Game where there has to be a loser for every winner.

In reality, America has always done better synergistically by working together for a common cause and then going out to kick the ass of anyone who needed it.

The nation is divided. Divide and conquer is an old maxim. Who benefits from We, the People living in a house divided? IMO, follow the money is always a good maxim too. LOL
 
You stupid mother-fucker...it was a choice between two opposing things. Which are you fine with.

Jesus H. Christ, you are a moron....and having a discussion with a moron like you is difficult.



What fucking "outcome." And do you know how tariffs work? (Obviously not.) So you are saying that the American people will be happy to pay $60 for a shirt made in the US that they can now buy for less than $20 if it is made in the third world?

Wake the fuck up.



What you do is to state a moronic mantra time after time. You hate "globalists." Butt the "globalists" are American corporations making as much money for their shareholders as possible (often by outsourcing) and Americans who buy stuff from Walmart and other retailers who buy most of their merchandise from third world countries because their costs are so much less.

And tariffs cannot cure that, because we count on being able to sell OUR GOODS to other countries...and if we raise tariffs, THEY WILL RAISE THEM ALSO.

tariffs can cure all that.

dumb mofo.
 
Everything is impermanent. Human society is like a living thing; we can't attack one side of it, one way or another, without it affecting the entire organism. Too many people see life in the US as a Zero-Sum Game where there has to be a loser for every winner.

In reality, America has always done better synergistically by working together for a common cause and then going out to kick the ass of anyone who needed it.

The nation is divided. Divide and conquer is an old maxim. Who benefits from We, the People living in a house divided? IMO, follow the money is always a good maxim too. LOL

such pretty lies.

globalism can be synergistically good and all that.

right now it's not for most americans.

government has the power to regulate trade and should in some instances, at the margins.

we should go back to not trading at all with totalitarian states that use slavery.

globalism is the pro-slavery position right now.

:truestory:
 
Oh, numbnuts, you do understand that it takes only a small band of experienced Antifa type thugs to turn a legal protest into a powder keg of illegal activity, right?

You've been duped or you're behind it somehow. That makes you either a traitor, or complete dumbass. Which one is it? Anyone?

The latter. :dunno:
 
You are totally full of shit, TA.

Hitler and the Nazis were extreme right...and still are.

I doubt there is a neo-Nazi in America right now who agrees with the progressive agenda...and damn near EVERY neo-Nazi would favor a conservative agenda.

But...you do have your fantasies to feed...so, go feed.

Dude, "Socialist" was in their party name. You cannot be ignorant of that.

"National Socialist German Workers' Party" Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei.

"Workers' party" is all kinds of Marxish.

National Socialism is what Democrats want.

"
Nazi Party, byname of National Socialist German Workers’ Party, German Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP), political party of the mass movement known as National Socialism. "

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Robert-Ley

Every Dem shill here is always advocating for more socialism in America. :rolleyes:
 
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Dude, "Socialist" was in their party name. You cannot be ignorant of that.

"National Socialist German Workers' Party" Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei.

"Workers' party" is all kinds of Marxish.

Like the pedo Neo-Nazis? They're all RW.

 
You are totally full of shit, TA.

Hitler and the Nazis were extreme right...and still are.

I doubt there is a neo-Nazi in America right now who agrees with the progressive agenda...and damn near EVERY neo-Nazi would favor a conservative agenda.

But...you do have your fantasies to feed...so, go feed.

Let's start with defining terms:

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/r...y,right is more commonly called the far right.

Read that. I'm not going to post a lengthy quote from it.

These are some of the Nazi's actual actions and platform. Does any of this sound like the radical Right?

Instituted first smoking ban in history and worked to abolish use of tobacco.
Legalized abortion and promoted it for eugenics reasons in particular
Were very pro public transit and use of trains. Conducted large-scale public projects to build more of both.
Were pro-gun control
Were in favor of organic farming and small scale farms
Worked to eliminate all alternatives to public education and institute standardized national curricula.
Worked to eliminate all religion from government.
Instituted a generous social-welfare state to include universal public health care
Started large scale public infrastructure projects like the autobahn or Prora a government run vacation resort for workers
Took political control of unions and workers

I could list far more, but everything is in lockstep with the radical Left, not the radical Right. Even their racism is Leftist and in line with things like Critical Race Theory, Intersectionality, and Disparate Impact Theory. The Nazis had versions of all that.

In fact, I'd postulate that if the Nazis of 1930's - 40's Germany gained control of the US one of the first things they'd do is imprison or shoot every modern neo-Nazi they could find.

What makes them on the radical Right other than your ill-informed, worthless opinion?
 
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Dude, "Socialist" was in their party name.

It really was not. It was in the word of their name, but was drawn upon the Latin word for teamwork.

In German, if they had been National Sozialist, they would have been socialists who were nationalists. They were Nationalsocialistische, so were nationalists working together as a team.

"Workers' party" is all kinds of Marxish.

Maybe, but they did not believe the workers should own the means of production, so were not Marxist.

National Socialism is what Democrats want.

No, it is not. It would mean putting nationalism above all. It is more the trump plan.
 
Instituted first smoking ban in history and worked to abolish use of tobacco.

Sultan Murad IV banned smoking in Ottoman Empire in 1623, which is over 300 years before the Nazis.

Legalized abortion

Nazis made abortions of healthy Germans illegal, and made it illegal for doctors to even tell women about abortion. It was completely illegal to give the woman the right to chose.

Were very pro public transit and use of trains.

They also loved cars; first highways. They were pro-trains, but not as pro-public transit.

Were pro-gun control

Nazis were pro-gun rights, saying that intergenerational use of guns would strengthen the German people.

Worked to eliminate all religion from government.

All German Protestants were required to join the government church.

Instituted a generous social-welfare state to include universal public health care

Predated the Nazis by 50 years.
 
Sultan Murad IV banned smoking in Ottoman Empire in 1623, which is over 300 years before the Nazis.

Hitler’s Anti-Smoking Campaign
The first anti-smoking campaign in the world

https://historyofyesterday.com/hitlers-anti-smoking-campaign-2e8321916933

The anti-tobacco campaign of the Nazis: a little known aspect of public health in Germany, 1933-45
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8973234/

The Nazis were the first in modern history and the first to make a concerted effort to end tobacco use.

Nazis made abortions of healthy Germans illegal, and made it illegal for doctors to even tell women about abortion. It was completely illegal to give the woman the right to chose.

Abortion and Eugenics in Nazi Germany
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1972501

They also loved cars; first highways. They were pro-trains, but not as pro-public transit.

Wrong! Most Germans couldn't afford a car. Getting a driver's license, then and even now, is an expensive proposition in Germany. The Nazis were very pro public transit. The autobahn was built mostly for military needs, not civilian. Prora and other massive public works were done to glorify the state and aid in indoctrinating the public at large.
Things like Organization Todt were formed (the equivalent of FDR's CCC or PWA) to force the unemployed into laboring for a minimum wage on public projects.

Nazis were pro-gun rights, saying that intergenerational use of guns would strengthen the German people.

The Nazi's required gun registration and licensing of owners. Anyone the government deemed unsuitable to own a firearm (Jews, minorities, political opposition, etc.) were denied both and had any firearms in their possession confiscated. In fact, any flimsy excuse could be used in the name of "public safety" (think red flag laws) to confiscate someone's firearms, and having to register all firearms made confiscation easy.

All German Protestants were required to join the government church.

The Nazis outright banned many religions from practicing in Germany at all. The Catholic Church was stripped of all political influence and power within Germany. The Nazi leadership wanted to pretty much abolish religion and substitute the state and Nazi party as the way to make Germans live in a "Germanic" fashion. Abolition of all religion in Germany was an eventual goal of the Nazi party under Kirchenkampf or "Church struggle." More accurately in English this would be taken as "War against religion."

As for welfare...

The Nazis instituted animal rights.

The NSV (Nationalsozialistische Volkswohlfahrt) or Nazi People's Welfare system instituted in 1933 right after Hitler took power, increasingly made welfare contingent on political and racial correctness as has been done in many other radical Leftist run countries. While on paper it was supposedly a non-governmental organization, it used government to enforce its edicts and manage the organization. Almost every charity in Germany was rolled into the NSV eventually.

Things the NSV gave out to those they deemed worthy included:
Rent subsidies (they also controlled rent in many cities)
Unemployment benefits
Disability benefits
Food packages and food subsidies.

That's all very Leftist.
 
Dude, "Socialist" was in their party name. You cannot be ignorant of that.

"National Socialist German Workers' Party" Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei.

"Workers' party" is all kinds of Marxish.

National Socialism is what Democrats want.

"
Nazi Party, byname of National Socialist German Workers’ Party, German Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP), political party of the mass movement known as National Socialism. "

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Robert-Ley

Every Dem shill here is always advocating for more socialism in America. :rolleyes:

Oh, no. Not that childish canard. Not here!

So you are saying that "socialism" was in the party name...and there is no way Hitler would ever lie about that.

Interesting.

You must be a Nazi, too.

Most people with a functioning brain realized that the Nazis had incorporated the word "Socialist" into their party name...and most people with a brain realized the absurdity of that move. The Nazis hated socialism and communism...and were constantly at odds with that structure.

For the record here are some comments on that ludicrous claim:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...-falsely-claiming-that-nazis-were-socialists/

https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists

https://fullfact.org/online/nazis-socialists/

You poor suckers really have gone completely 1984...haven't you.

Far right is actually far left.
The Trump rioting was actually the left rioting.
Trump was a patriot...not an insurrectionist.
 
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