The future climate - the planet is giving us a glimpse

[Poor Richard Saunders]

You are an idiot posting your delusions on the internet, not a thinking person who uses logic.

Since I guess you have devolved to the level of a third grader.

I know you are but what am I???

 

[gfm7175]

Since I guess you have devolved to the level of a third grader.

I know you are but what am I???

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO I just got you to insult YOUR OWN BEHAVIOR

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO I just got you to insult YOUR OWN BEHAVIOR

I see it went right over your head. Not surprising.

A third grader repeats what another person said.

 

[Monad Portal]

bidenites cant argue out of a wet paper sack.

 

[gfm7175]

The greenhouse effect

There is no such thing as "greenhouse effect".

does not violate the laws of physics.

The proposed mechanism for it violates the laws of physics, as already described to you.

We know this, because of greenhouses.

What about them?

They exist,

Correct.

so therefore they cannot break the laws of the universe.

Greenhouses are not "greenhouse effect".

 

[gfm7175]

I see it went right over your head. Not surprising.

LMFAOOOOOOOOOO you don't even understand how you insulted yourself

A third grader repeats what another person said.

I didn't repeat what you said. I mimicked your behavior.

You insulted my mimicked behavior of you, thus insulting yourself in the process. Too funny.

 

[Into the Night]

Ahh, our resident sheet wearer trying to think under that pointy hood.

Here stupid, for your education:

Climate Change Indicators: Weather and Climate

https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicat...perature is,with human-induced climate change.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. The EPA can't do it either.
Apparently you are unaware that summer temperatures tend to be warmer than the winter.

 

[Into the Night]

The greenhouse effect does not violate the laws of physics. We know this, because of greenhouses. They exist, so therefore they cannot break the laws of the universe.

Greenhouses work because they reduce heat. That doesn't exist in an open atmosphere. No, you are making a false equivalence. They cool off just like everything else at night. An open atmosphere has convective heating. A greenhouse blocks convective heating. Radiant heating is NOT blocked by a greenhouse.

No gas or vapor has the capability to create energy. You cannot heat a warmer surface using a colder gas. You cannot reduce entropy. You are also ignoring radiant heating. You are ignoring the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law.

 

[Into the Night]

You are an idiot posting your delusions on the internet, not a government agency that uses facts.

Learn what 'fact' means. It is not a Holy Word. It does not confer any kind of blessing.

 

[Into the Night]

Since I guess you have devolved to the level of a third grader.

I know you are but what am I???

Childish LIF. Grow up.

 

[Taichiliberal]

The EPA is a government agency, NOT science.

Here stupid, for your education:

https://www.epa.gov/history/origins-epa

https://www.epa.gov/research/role-s...g with,equitable water supplies and resources.

 

[evince]

I understand as Americans we can only vote in our country. But climate change is a global thing. What are we going to do with India and China?

Oh now you admit it’s real?

 

[Into the Night]

Here stupid, for your education:

https://www.epa.gov/history/origins-epa

https://www.epa.gov/research/role-s...g with,equitable water supplies and resources.

The EPA denies and discards science. Like everyone else in the Church of Global Warming, they discard the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law. Government agencies are not science. Science has no politics. It is not any government organization, department, or bureaucracy. It is not any academy, university, society, or any other group of people. It is not even people at all.

Science is a set of falsifiable theories. Theories that YOU and EPA ignore and discard.

Holy Links do not change what you are doing. False authority fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Oh now you admit it’s real?

Holy Words will not help you.

 

[Walt]

There is no such thing as "greenhouse effect".

If you argued that in more complex systems, the Greenhouse Effect might not apply, you would have an interesting point. Instead, you argued that an easily provable effect does not exist. Clearly, it is possible to create a greenhouse, where light goes through the windows, changes into heat, which is prevented from going back through the windows. Insulation is a real thing, that slows down the release of heat. None of this violates any of the laws of physics.

Humans have known about insulation since before there was even civilization. There are absolutely no laws of physics possible that will disprove its existence.

This is all like debating what policy we should follow in dealing with Ukraine if you did not believe Ukraine existed. It becomes pointless even communicating with you.

 

[Walt]

As you said, CO2 is a great conductor of heat.

Carbon dioxide, and gases in general, are terrible conductors of heat. Here is a simple experiment. Put your hand against an iron or steel object. It will feel cold, because metal is a good conductor of heat. Now raise your hand an inch above the object, and the metal is no longer conducting heat from your hand, and you feel it.

What about wind? Wind (moving gas) will make your hand feel colder, not because it conducts heat away, but because it literally physically moves the hotter gas away. With double glazed windows, we solve this problem by trapping the gas between two pains of glass. The excellent insulating properties of gas is kept, and the moving properties of gas is prevented.

If gas freely moved in and out of the Planet Earth, then you would start having a point. It does not, and we should all move on from your ignorance.

 

[Walt]

Greenhouses work because they reduce heat.

Actually, they increase retention of heat.

An open atmosphere has convective heating. A greenhouse blocks convective heating.

Convection of heat works within a greenhouse, and within an atmosphere. There is no convection of heat outside of the atmosphere. The atmosphere is kept around the Earth with gravity. It is actually a better block than any man made greenhouse.

No gas or vapor has the capability to create energy.

It is an insulation, not a creator of heat. You wear a heavy jacket not to create heat, but to insulate heat. This is physics that was understood by people 100,000 years ago. I literally have a dog who understands the basics of it.

I cannot dumb this down any more for you. You are not literally dumber than a dog, but you are actively trying not to understand.

You cannot reduce entropy. You are also ignoring radiant heating. You are ignoring the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law.

Either you have easily discovered something that millions of scientists missed, or you are actively trying not to understand. These scientists have invested their entire lives into studying not just this, but far more complex issues. Also, any person who attempts to use insulation would have to be wrong. And then there are the creatures who use insulation...

Insulation really does exist, and does reduce entropy.

 

[gfm7175]

Here stupid, for your education:

https://www.epa.gov/history/origins-epa

https://www.epa.gov/research/role-s...g with,equitable water supplies and resources.

The EPA is not science, numb nuts.

Try quoting some science for a change...

 

[Monad Portal]

Actually, they increase retention of heat.



Convection of heat works within a greenhouse, and within an atmosphere. There is no convection of heat outside of the atmosphere. The atmosphere is kept around the Earth with gravity. It is actually a better block than any man made greenhouse.



It is an insulation, not a creator of heat. You wear a heavy jacket not to create heat, but to insulate heat. This is physics that was understood by people 100,000 years ago. I literally have a dog who understands the basics of it.

I cannot dumb this down any more for you. You are not literally dumber than a dog, but you are actively trying not to understand.



Either you have easily discovered something that millions of scientists missed, or you are actively trying not to understand. These scientists have invested their entire lives into studying not just this, but far more complex issues. Also, any person who attempts to use insulation would have to be wrong. And then there are the creatures who use insulation...

Insulation really does exist, and does reduce entropy.

science is wholly corrupted by oligarchs who want to kill everyone by withholding fuel for made up reasons.

 

[gfm7175]

If you argued that in more complex systems, the Greenhouse Effect might not apply, you would have an interesting point. Instead, you argued that an easily provable effect does not exist.

There is no such thing as "greenhouse effect". There is no valid mechanism for it (it denies science).

Clearly, it is possible to create a greenhouse, where light goes through the windows, changes into heat, which is prevented from going back through the windows. Insulation is a real thing, that slows down the release of heat. None of this violates any of the laws of physics.

Greenhouses are not "greenhouse effect". Greenhouses work by reducing heat (due to the clear windows/walls of the greenhouse). No laws of physics are broken.

"Greenhouse effect", on the other hand, attempts to support the religious faith of "Earth's increasing temperature" via creating energy out of nothing (violating the 1st LoT), decreasing entropy (violating the 2nd LoT), and decreasing radiation (via "trapped heat") while simultaneously increasing temperature (violating the Stefan Boltzmann Law). Laws broken galore!

Humans have known about insulation since before there was even civilization. There are absolutely no laws of physics possible that will disprove its existence.

Insulation is not "greenhouse effect".

This is all like debating what policy we should follow in dealing with Ukraine if you did not believe Ukraine existed. It becomes pointless even communicating with you.

No, this is like debating what mammal is the tallest and you go on a tangent about ostriches.