Dems stunned by their own poll: People despise their fringe lunatic education agenda

[Thaddeus Martel]

The guy making the comments is a part of the American Federation of Children, a conservative, Devos backed dark money organization with ties to ALEC.

More deception from the right. ALWAYS bet on it when this Thaddeus person posts.

A DEMOCRAT poll commissioned by DEMOCRATS using DEMOCRAT pollsters proved that people hate unions, side with parents, and trust the GOP more, but the whole thing is invalid because any conservative acknowledged in any way that it happened?

That is some next-level desperation, dishonesty, and denial.

 

[Thaddeus Martel]

The thing to note is they've got nothing in the way of rational rebuttal, facts, or evidence. Instead, they run entirely on feelings and emotion.

That's absolutely standard, my whole entire life. Democrats operate on emotional hysteria and conspiracy theories, thinking adults (everyone else) operates on facts, logic, and evidence.

 

[Thaddeus Martel]

Otherwise known as the "attack the source" fallacy: "I don't have to defend my argument or prove my point because I arbitrarily decided to change the subject to who brought up the fact being debated."

100% bullshit invalid logic...every single time...and archives seems to lean on that particular falsehood like a crutch in every debate.

 

[Thaddeus Martel]

They not only deny that truth exists but they also believe that physical reality falls in front of their will, their fantasies ......these are Peter Pan People.

Boy are they in for a shock.

When reality always contradicts your worldview, you are left with two options:

-Grow up and become a conservative like everyone else does with increased life experience

-Cling bitterly to your fantasies and dogma and be the sad elderly guy who never grew out of adolescence

So Democrats are always either young people with no experience in the real world or sad, pathetic crackpots who life passed by a long time ago.

 

[Thaddeus Martel]

You're trying too hard to sound in control of your self made mess.

Yes, you being unable to comprehend that the "catastrophic collapse" was referring to the quality of education is clearly ME being the one who's jacked up.

When all else fails, simply inform your opponent that they are triggered and struggling while they mop the floor with you.

The "bruise their fist with your face" strategy.

The education query was just one question in the poll

Nobody suggested otherwise.

a political poll comprised of more Republicans than Democrats, in which Democrats actually fared slightly better against Republicans on the education question than they did in on other questions.

1) The difference between Republicans and Democrats sampled was within the margin of error (in other words, negligible and meaningless).

What this shows us is that any time Democrats aren't deliberately rigging polls by wildly oversampling Democrats, they get rejected on the issues.

Thanks for the assist, genius.

2) Your logic is that if there is more of one party sampled and the results benefit that side, the poll is invalid. 99% of all polling I have ever seen wildly oversamples Democrats (intentionally).

Thanks for confirming that 99% of all polling is bullshit pseudo-science.

 

[Thaddeus Martel]

Biden is less popular than any modern President.

Of course. He governs on behalf of the lunatic fringe and no one else...and was not elected. You're not going to be popular when you do those things.

 

[Thaddeus Martel]

Are you asking for now or after November.

The logic is also straight up asinine: "It doesn't matter that Democrats just humiliated themselves by proving that the public rejects their agenda, because Democrats have more power at the moment."

And?

I know five-year-olds that can reason better than most Democrats.

 

[Shoresy]

People despise Trump and the GOP.

People despise the DNC which is the party of baby killing and child grooming, every elected Democrat should be rounded up and execute for crimes against humanity.

 

[martin]

Yes, you being unable to comprehend that the "catastrophic collapse" was referring to the quality of education is clearly ME being the one who's jacked up.

When all else fails, simply inform your opponent that they are triggered and struggling while they mop the floor with you.

The "bruise their fist with your face" strategy.



Nobody suggested otherwise.



1) The difference between Republicans and Democrats sampled was within the margin of error (in other words, negligible and meaningless).

What this shows us is that any time Democrats aren't deliberately rigging polls by wildly oversampling Democrats, they get rejected on the issues.

Thanks for the assist, genius.

2) Your logic is that if there is more of one party sampled and the results benefit that side, the poll is invalid. 99% of all polling I have ever seen wildly oversamples Democrats (intentionally).

Thanks for confirming that 99% of all polling is bullshit pseudo-science.

Scrambling won't change the fact that the poll is nothing beyond a predictable sampling of political opinion and bias in evenly divided populations. Your attempt to find a "catastrophic" meaning in it is as foolish as your usual contributions to this forum.

I did get a kick out of your closing (boldfaced) sentence.

 

[midcan5]

I often wonder when I read threads like this, is the thread poster really American? Today FOX OAN and Newsmax often appear like Russian or Chinese media, they present only biased data and opinion. Much like this thread. What happened to critical thinking in America, you should ask. Trump tried to destroy the one thing that guarantees honest government, a succession policy. Trump wanted to be Putin or Xi Jinping. Do Americans want to be more like Russia or China where media and publications are controlled. Some may? For the reader the book below will astound you, especially given Ukraine today.

'The Road to Unfreedom: Russia, Europe, America' Timothy Snyder

https://www.timothysnyder.org/books/the-road-to-unfreedom-tr/the-road-to-unfreedom-hc

And: 'On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century' by Timothy Snyder

 

[Thaddeus Martel]

People despise the DNC which is the party of baby killing and child grooming, every elected Democrat should be rounded up and execute for crimes against humanity.

 

[Thaddeus Martel]

Scrambling won't change the fact...

So just dig the hole deeper.

Everyone can plainly see you went off half cocked without actually comprehending what you were responding to. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself worse at this point.

Your attempt to find a "catastrophic" meaning in it is as foolish as your usual contributions to this forum.

Yes, what a gigantic leap of logic it is to suggest that going from 1st place to 27th in education since Democrats illegally took it over could in any way constitute some "catastrophic collapse in the quality of education?"

 

[moon]

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[Thaddeus Martel]

I often wonder when I read threads like this, is the thread poster really American? Today FOX OAN and Newsmax often appear like Russian or Chinese media

He says as his own sources provide wall-to-wall saturation coverage of a partisan show trial while calling years of violent anarchy and insurrection "peaceful protests" and promoting ministries of truth.

they present only biased data and opinion.

He says while getting his news from the people who told us:

-that repealing Net Neutrality would wreck the Internet,
-that Trump would resign or be removed from office,
-that the stock market would crash if Trump were elected,
-that you could keep your doctor,
-that Trump would never get the nomination,
-that cutting taxes (or as Pelosi called it, "Armageddon") would resurrect the Great Depression and murder 10,000 people per year,
-that Obamacare would make health care more affordable,
-that Republicans would take away Medicare and Social Security benefits,
-that Trump will bring back slavery,
-that Trump had virtually zero chance to ever beat Hillary,
-that Republicans would ban contraceptives and the imaginary women's health care provided by Planned Parenthood,
-that it was impossible to bring manufacturing jobs back,
-that Trump will start WWIII,
-that confirming Betsy DeVos as Education secretary would end public education in America,
-more than 40 different wildly erroneous global warming apocalypse predictions,
-that fighting back against unfair trade deals would destroy the economy.

Much like this thread. What happened to critical thinking in America, you should ask.

Democrats illegally took over the educational system under Carter and spent the next half century or so taking us from 1st place to 27th.

That's what happened.

Trump tried to destroy the one thing that guarantees honest government, a succession policy.

1) Which might make sense if the succession of an unelected, illegitimate usurper were something to allow.

2) It's good to see Democrats finally wanting anything vaguely resembling honesty after four years straight of:

-the "Trump gassed protesters to give a speech" hoax
-the Russia collusion hoax
-the "Trump told people to drink Lysol" hoax
-the Covington Catholic hoax
-the Charlottesville "very fine people" hoax
-the Roy Moore pedophile hoax
-the Kavanaugh rape gang hoax
-the "repealing Net Neutrality will destroy the Internet" hoax
-the Hydroxchloroquine hoax
-the Jussie Smollett hoax
-the "Investigating Biden's corruption is worse than Biden BEING corrupt" hoax
-the Ukraine transcript hoax
-the Duke Lacrosse team hoax
-the Trayvon Martin hoax
-the "uninsured crisis" hoax
-the multitude of college hate crime hoaxes
-the "deceptively edited video" Planned Parenthood hoax
-the "children in cages" hoax
-the Michael Cohen perjury/contacting the Russians hoaxes
-the SPLC "hate group" hoax
-the "Trump mocking people with disabilities" hoax
-the "you can keep your doctor" hoax
-the "immigrants are rapists, criminals, animals" hoax
-the Kavanaugh "white power symbol" hoax
-the "Trump asked Putin to hack the DNC" hoax
-the polar bear dying from climate change hoax
-the "Trump made it easier for the mentally ill to purchase guns" hoax
-the Scaramucci Russian bankers hoax
-the "Muslim ban" hoax
-the global warming "consensus" hoax
-the "Obama's scandal-free presidency" hoax
-the Trump Jr. WikiLeaks hoax
-the Iran nuclear appeasement hoax
-the "polls show Trump will lose" hoax
-the "Obamacare will never fund abortions or illegal immigrants" hoax
-the "Hillary exonerated" hoax
-the "white privilege" hoax
-the voter suppression hoax
-the "hands up don't shoot" hoax
-the "Trump called soldiers losers" hoax
-the "peaceful protesters" hoax
-the "Trump used a Nazi eagle" hoax
-the "Trump ignored Russia putting bounties on U.S. soldiers" hoax
-the coronavirus hoax
-the "Trump used a Nazi red triangle" hoax
-the "Trump admitted to sexual assault" hoax
-the "Trump denying passports to Latinos" hoax
-the "Mission Accomplished" hoax

Trump wanted to be Putin or Xi Jinping.

1) More "make up whatever I feel like" projection from the infantile left.



2) Everything President Trump did made us more free, everything Biden does bankrupts, impoverishes, and enslaves us.

You should really talk to someone about this addiction to projecting your signature flaws onto others. There seems to be no moment in your entire existence when you are not doing it.

Do Americans want to be more like Russia or China where media and publications are controlled.

Say the people who literally changed the outcome of the election by censoring any mention of Hunter's laptop, based on what the NY Times later confirmed was a known outright lie that it was "Russian disinformation."



It's like you're TRYING to be the most massively self-unaware hypocrite in history.

Some may? For the reader the book below will astound you, especially given Ukraine today.

'The Road to Unfreedom: Russia, Europe, America' Timothy Snyder

https://www.timothysnyder.org/books/the-road-to-unfreedom-tr/the-road-to-unfreedom-hc

And: 'On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century' by Timothy Snyder

Books about freedom...being recommended by the people jailing their opponents, staging partisan show trials, and starting ministries of truth?

What's next, you going to recommend that we become less socialist and racist by reading Mein Kampf?

 

[martin]

So just dig the hole deeper.

Everyone can plainly see you went off half cocked without actually comprehending what you were responding to. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself worse at this point.

Yes, what a gigantic leap of logic it is to suggest that going from 1st place to 27th in education since Democrats illegally took it over could in any way constitute some "catastrophic collapse in the quality of education?"

Now you're afraid to quote the post you're trying to refute.

Look, if you're going to participate in a debate forum it is helpful to know what a debate is. Its begins with a premise. Yours is: "Dems stunned by their own poll: People despise their fringe lunatic education agenda".
In support of this premise you stated your argument in which you provided nothing about Democrats being "stunned", no polling that should have stunned them, no evidence that "people" regard Democrats as having a "fringe lunatic education agenda." What you cite is a political poll from states with approximately even numbers of Democrat and Republican voters asking a number of Democrat v. Republican questions including a question of which party is preferred at handling "education" with responses being about evenly split between the parties. This argument may win you "Thanks" from your hapless peers at this forum. It would get you gently excused from any debate team.

 

[Thaddeus Martel]

Now you're afraid to quote the post you're trying to refute.

Am I? Thanks for informing me. Good to know which latest random ad hominem motive you're arbitrarily assigning to me.

Silly me. I thought I was laughing my ass off at your reading comprehension issues and refusal to accept that you embarrassed yourself.

Look, if you're going to participate in a debate forum it is helpful to know what a debate is. Its begins with a premise. Yours is: "Dems stunned by their own poll: People despise their fringe lunatic education agenda".
In support of this premise you stated your argument in which you provided nothing about Democrats being "stunned"

1) Except for the article showing they got completely opposite results from what they expected. Other than showing exactly what the premise of the thread claimed, yeah.

2) If you're going to participate in a debate forum it is helpful to be able to comprehend what is being argued. When someone says going from 1st place to 27th in education since Democrats illegally took it over indicates a "catastrophic collapse in the quality of education," you don't rush in and respond to the point no one has made, insisting that there is no catastrophic collapse in poll numbers.

No one ever argued anything like that, you fucking retard.

3) You being dense and misunderstanding what you read isn't other people being shifty or misleading.

4) I'm ready for you to inform me of what I'm "really" doing again.

As far as I knew, I was still just laughing at your semi-literate tunnel vision stupidity.