What Mexico can teach Joe Biden about gas prices

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Emboldened by his successful boycott of President Joe Biden’s Summit of the Americas, Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador further humiliated Biden at the White House this week.

The leftist populist, known universally as AMLO, savaged Biden with a half-hour lecture on his failed immigration, drug, and energy policies.

To be sure, Lopez Obrador is a far-left, open-borders ideologue who wants amnesty for 10 million illegal immigrants already in the United States. He has previously stated that migrants from around the world have a human right to enter the U.S. as they please. These are all terrible ideas that are not that far off from Biden’s current immigration preferences.

But when it comes to energy policy, Lopez Obrador did make some good points.

On average, gas is over $1 a gallon cheaper in Mexico ($3.12) than it is in the U.S. ($4.60). The gap is even larger between Mexico and Democrat-controlled states such as California ($5.99).

“We have decided that it was necessary for us to allow Americans who live close to the border to go and get their gasoline on the Mexican side at lower prices,” Lopez Obrador told Biden. “And right now, a lot of drivers, a lot of Americans are going to Mexico to get their gasoline.”

Mexico’s oil industry is far from perfect. It was nationalized into one government-run company, Pemex, in 1938. Like any government-run company, it has been riddled with corruption and mismanagement ever since.

But what Mexico understands, and Biden and the Democratic Party do not, is that you have to invest in oil and gas infrastructure if you want to improve refinery capacity and bring down the cost of gasoline.

The U.S. hasn’t built a new refinery since 1976. Mexico, on the other hand, not only just bought a refinery in Houston for $596 million, but it is also building a brand new one in the Mexican state of Tabasco for $8 billion. Another $3 billion is slated to modernize six other Mexican refineries.

Meanwhile, here in the U.S., environmental regulations make it impossible to invest in refinery modernization.

Instead of adding refinery capacity every year, Biden’s America is taking refinery capacity offline. This means that as long as the Democrats are in power, the gap between the cost of gas in Mexico and the U.S. will only grow.

And to be fair to Biden and Democrats, they probably already know that their energy policies are making gas more expensive. That is the whole point — to make fossil fuels like gasoline more expensive so that drivers drive less and also switch to electric cars.

Biden said as much in Tokyo earlier this year. “Here’s the situation,” he said. “When it comes to the gas prices, we’re going through an incredible transition that is taking place that, God willing, when it’s over, we’ll be stronger, and the world will be stronger and less reliant on fossil fuels.”

The reason Biden and the Democrats don’t want to build new refineries or make existing ones more efficient is that they want to push the country away from fossil fuels. The pain at the pump is precisely their whole idea.

So score one for Lopez Obrador. He has every right to poke fun at Biden for the high gas prices he has created.
 
Always interesting when they leave off the source, I'm betting either Breitfart, a Murdoch entity, or the Examiner
 
Appeal to Authority Fallacy.

I'll actually back up Archives here. (Technically I think board rules say if you copy an article you are also supposed to post there source but that's not where I am going with this.) The reality is some sources are more reliable than others. Or if someone posted an article from a satire site like The Onion or The Babylon Bee and didn't source it and tried to pass it off as real news I'd say that's f'd up. Nothing wrong with posting satire but at least source it.

I think we all know the saying 'just because something's on the internet doesn't necessarily make it true'. If the source of an article is someone who is a known liar and/or repeatedly wrong you'd probably want to know they are source of the article you are about to read. (that transcends political partisanship)

Disclosure isn't an appeal to authority rather it's knowledge.
 
I'll actually back up Archives here. (Technically I think board rules say if you copy an article you are also supposed to post there source but that's not where I am going with this.) The reality is some sources are more reliable than others. Or if someone posted an article from a satire site like The Onion or The Babylon Bee and didn't source it and tried to pass it off as real news I'd say that's f'd up. Nothing wrong with posting satire but at least source it.

I think we all know the saying 'just because something's on the internet doesn't necessarily make it true'. If the source of an article is someone who is a known liar and/or repeatedly wrong you'd probably want to know they are source of the article you are about to read. (that transcends political partisanship)

Disclosure isn't an appeal to authority rather it's knowledge.
Actually I agree but you notice he didn't guess CNN or the NYT so it was his attempt to dump on the source. I imagine the lack of a hyper link was just an oversight.
 
Appeal to Authority Fallacy.

Ah, no, if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, it sure as hell ain't an elephant, called common sense

And how can it be an authority fallacy when the poster didn't even include the "authority" he copied and pasted
 
On average, gas is over $1 a gallon cheaper in Mexico ($3.12) than it is in the U.S. ($4.60).

Not true. Average gasoline prices in Mexico are $4.319, and $4.495 in America. That is a 18 cent difference, not over a dollar. The main difference is that Mexico taxes gasoline less, which has the flip side that it has worse roads.

The gasoline shortages in Mexico due to heavy government control should concern you. The bad roads should also concern you. We do not have much to learn from Mexico.

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/Mexico/gasoline_prices/
https://gasprices.aaa.com/
 
Emboldened by his successful boycott of President Joe Biden’s Summit of the Americas, Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador further humiliated Biden at the White House this week.

The leftist populist, known universally as AMLO, savaged Biden with a half-hour lecture on his failed immigration, drug, and energy policies.

To be sure, Lopez Obrador is a far-left, open-borders ideologue who wants amnesty for 10 million illegal immigrants already in the United States. He has previously stated that migrants from around the world have a human right to enter the U.S. as they please. These are all terrible ideas that are not that far off from Biden’s current immigration preferences.

But when it comes to energy policy, Lopez Obrador did make some good points.

On average, gas is over $1 a gallon cheaper in Mexico ($3.12) than it is in the U.S. ($4.60). The gap is even larger between Mexico and Democrat-controlled states such as California ($5.99).

“We have decided that it was necessary for us to allow Americans who live close to the border to go and get their gasoline on the Mexican side at lower prices,” Lopez Obrador told Biden. “And right now, a lot of drivers, a lot of Americans are going to Mexico to get their gasoline.”

Mexico’s oil industry is far from perfect. It was nationalized into one government-run company, Pemex, in 1938. Like any government-run company, it has been riddled with corruption and mismanagement ever since.

But what Mexico understands, and Biden and the Democratic Party do not, is that you have to invest in oil and gas infrastructure if you want to improve refinery capacity and bring down the cost of gasoline.

The U.S. hasn’t built a new refinery since 1976. Mexico, on the other hand, not only just bought a refinery in Houston for $596 million, but it is also building a brand new one in the Mexican state of Tabasco for $8 billion. Another $3 billion is slated to modernize six other Mexican refineries.

Meanwhile, here in the U.S., environmental regulations make it impossible to invest in refinery modernization.

Instead of adding refinery capacity every year, Biden’s America is taking refinery capacity offline. This means that as long as the Democrats are in power, the gap between the cost of gas in Mexico and the U.S. will only grow.

And to be fair to Biden and Democrats, they probably already know that their energy policies are making gas more expensive. That is the whole point — to make fossil fuels like gasoline more expensive so that drivers drive less and also switch to electric cars.

Biden said as much in Tokyo earlier this year. “Here’s the situation,” he said. “When it comes to the gas prices, we’re going through an incredible transition that is taking place that, God willing, when it’s over, we’ll be stronger, and the world will be stronger and less reliant on fossil fuels.”

The reason Biden and the Democrats don’t want to build new refineries or make existing ones more efficient is that they want to push the country away from fossil fuels. The pain at the pump is precisely their whole idea.

So score one for Lopez Obrador. He has every right to poke fun at Biden for the high gas prices he has created.

Actually you haters of the U.S. should consider the following details:

High Gas Prices Are Donald Trump’s Fault who tried in concert with the external enemy and the enemy from within that tried to destroy and hang democracy and anything else of a civilized nature on Earth. Yet the 2020 majority got together to cut down the un-American tRump insurgency of the sewer and of which its fallout of filth, stench and trash are being dealt with to clean up.

Trump demanded that Saudi Arabia cut back production back in 2020. According to Trump, he worked out a deal where OPEC producers would all agree to reduce their output. The reason we now have high oil prices is that they have not returned their production to pre-pandemic levels. Hey, by the media’s standards of what makes a politician responsible for an event in the world, this is practically airtight.

It’s more than a bit bizarre that Donald Trump literally boasted about getting oil producers to cut production, but somehow President Biden is held responsible for high gas prices."
https://cepr.net/high-gas-prices-are-donald-trumps-fault/

Yet after the lawlessly hacked in tRump atrocity ended and things appeared to be corrected a bit, gas prices continue to decline with President Biden:

Gas Prices Continue To Drop—Here’s How Far They May Fall As Oil Prices Crater

Gas prices will likely trickle further down after oil prices fell about 8% on Tuesday on the back of increased recession fears, with benchmark West Texas Intermediate crude trading at under $100 per barrel for the first time since early May (WTI fell further Wednesday, dropping .9% to $98.46 per barrel)."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereks...ay-fall-as-oil-prices-crater/?sh=704b5dc87f0a

Yes, U.S. gas prices are lower than these 8 other places around the world
People in many industrialized countries outside of the U.S. pay more for gasoline due to higher taxes on fuel. European countries tend to have the highest gas taxes.

https://www.verifythis.com/article/...orld/536-f29481e9-eb3b-43df-aa91-a53c9ace5e5c

U.S. has more untapped oil than Saudi Arabia or Russia
Move over, Saudi Arabia and Russia. America now has more untapped oil than any other country on the planet.
That's according to a new report from Rystad Energy that estimates the U.S. is sitting on an incredible 264 billion barrels of oil reserves. It includes oil in existing fields, new projects, recent discoveries as well as projections in undiscovered fields."

https://money.cnn.com/2016/07/05/investing/us-untapped-oil/index.html
 
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Actually you haters of the U.S. should consider the following details:

High Gas Prices Are Donald Trump’s Fault who tried in concert with the external enemy and the enemy from within that tried to destroy and hang democracy and anything else of a civilized nature on Earth. Yet the 2020 majority got together to cut down the un-American tRump insurgency of the sewer and of which its fallout of filth, stench and trash are being dealt with to clean up.

Trump demanded that Saudi Arabia cut back production back in 2020. According to Trump, he worked out a deal where OPEC producers would all agree to reduce their output. The reason we now have high oil prices is that they have not returned their production to pre-pandemic levels. Hey, by the media’s standards of what makes a politician responsible for an event in the world, this is practically airtight.

It’s more than a bit bizarre that Donald Trump literally boasted about getting oil producers to cut production, but somehow President Biden is held responsible for high gas prices."
https://cepr.net/high-gas-prices-are-donald-trumps-fault/

Yet after the lawlessly hacked in tRump atrocity ended and things appeared to be corrected a bit, gas prices continue to decline with President Biden:

Gas Prices Continue To Drop—Here’s How Far They May Fall As Oil Prices Crater

Gas prices will likely trickle further down after oil prices fell about 8% on Tuesday on the back of increased recession fears, with benchmark West Texas Intermediate crude trading at under $100 per barrel for the first time since early May (WTI fell further Wednesday, dropping .9% to $98.46 per barrel)."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereks...ay-fall-as-oil-prices-crater/?sh=704b5dc87f0a

Yes, U.S. gas prices are lower than these 8 other places around the world
People in many industrialized countries outside of the U.S. pay more for gasoline due to higher taxes on fuel. European countries tend to have the highest gas taxes.

https://www.verifythis.com/article/...orld/536-f29481e9-eb3b-43df-aa91-a53c9ace5e5c

U.S. has more untapped oil than Saudi Arabia or Russia
Move over, Saudi Arabia and Russia. America now has more untapped oil than any other country on the planet.
That's according to a new report from Rystad Energy that estimates the U.S. is sitting on an incredible 264 billion barrels of oil reserves. It includes oil in existing fields, new projects, recent discoveries as well as projections in undiscovered fields."

https://money.cnn.com/2016/07/05/investing/us-untapped-oil/index.html

Be quiet you ignorant Democrat. You are beyond ignorant. That is why you vote Democrat.
 
Not true. Average gasoline prices in Mexico are $4.319, and $4.495 in America. That is a 18 cent difference, not over a dollar. The main difference is that Mexico taxes gasoline less, which has the flip side that it has worse roads.

The gasoline shortages in Mexico due to heavy government control should concern you. The bad roads should also concern you. We do not have much to learn from Mexico.

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/Mexico/gasoline_prices/
https://gasprices.aaa.com/

You are a typical stupid Democrat.
 
Emboldened by his successful boycott of President Joe Biden’s Summit of the Americas, Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador further humiliated Biden at the White House this week.

The leftist populist, known universally as AMLO, savaged Biden with a half-hour lecture on his failed immigration, drug, and energy policies.

To be sure, Lopez Obrador is a far-left, open-borders ideologue who wants amnesty for 10 million illegal immigrants already in the United States. He has previously stated that migrants from around the world have a human right to enter the U.S. as they please. These are all terrible ideas that are not that far off from Biden’s current immigration preferences.

But when it comes to energy policy, Lopez Obrador did make some good points.

On average, gas is over $1 a gallon cheaper in Mexico ($3.12) than it is in the U.S. ($4.60). The gap is even larger between Mexico and Democrat-controlled states such as California ($5.99).

“We have decided that it was necessary for us to allow Americans who live close to the border to go and get their gasoline on the Mexican side at lower prices,” Lopez Obrador told Biden. “And right now, a lot of drivers, a lot of Americans are going to Mexico to get their gasoline.”

Mexico’s oil industry is far from perfect. It was nationalized into one government-run company, Pemex, in 1938. Like any government-run company, it has been riddled with corruption and mismanagement ever since.

But what Mexico understands, and Biden and the Democratic Party do not, is that you have to invest in oil and gas infrastructure if you want to improve refinery capacity and bring down the cost of gasoline.

The U.S. hasn’t built a new refinery since 1976. Mexico, on the other hand, not only just bought a refinery in Houston for $596 million, but it is also building a brand new one in the Mexican state of Tabasco for $8 billion. Another $3 billion is slated to modernize six other Mexican refineries.

Meanwhile, here in the U.S., environmental regulations make it impossible to invest in refinery modernization.

Instead of adding refinery capacity every year, Biden’s America is taking refinery capacity offline. This means that as long as the Democrats are in power, the gap between the cost of gas in Mexico and the U.S. will only grow.

And to be fair to Biden and Democrats, they probably already know that their energy policies are making gas more expensive. That is the whole point — to make fossil fuels like gasoline more expensive so that drivers drive less and also switch to electric cars.

Biden said as much in Tokyo earlier this year. “Here’s the situation,” he said. “When it comes to the gas prices, we’re going through an incredible transition that is taking place that, God willing, when it’s over, we’ll be stronger, and the world will be stronger and less reliant on fossil fuels.”

The reason Biden and the Democrats don’t want to build new refineries or make existing ones more efficient is that they want to push the country away from fossil fuels. The pain at the pump is precisely their whole idea.

So score one for Lopez Obrador. He has every right to poke fun at Biden for the high gas prices he has created.

Too many things just totally wrong here to even bother commenting on.

YOU CAN'T JUST SAY THINGS IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO BELIEVE YOU- YOU HAVE TO PRODUCE FACTS!

Anyone can just run their mouth!

Here are a couple of things up front- NO ONE HUMILIATED BIDEN!

Pemex, the only gasoline company in Mexico is owned by the Mexican Government! Should Gasoline companies in America be federally owned? I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD SAY YES!

And, you can stop milking the gasoline high prices problem because gasoline prices are going down every day now.

Yesterday I filled up at Krogers where I got 30 cents off of their regular price of $3.83 cents.
 
Too many things just totally wrong here to even bother commenting on.

YOU CAN'T JUST SAY THINGS IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO BELIEVE YOU- YOU HAVE TO PRODUCE FACTS!

Anyone can just run their mouth!

Here are a couple of things up front- NO ONE HUMILIATED BIDEN!

Pemex, the only gasoline company in Mexico is owned by the Mexican Government! Should Gasoline companies in America be federally owned? I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD SAY YES!

And, you can stop milking the gasoline high prices problem because gasoline prices are going down every day now.

Yesterday I filled up at Krogers where I got 30 cents off of their regular price of $3.83 cents.

Learn how to read.
 
Wow some people are really fucking stupid.

Nothing Joe Biden does will have anything more than a nominal impact on the price at the pump because the price of oil is controlled by a cartel who can, at any time, flood or drain the market of oil, driving down or driving up its cost...all at their whim.

So if you screech that Biden should increase production without nationalizing the industry to "keep the oil here", then you're a fucking idiot because OPEC can simply cut production to maintain the current supply (and current price) OR they could decide to choose violence and increase production so much that it craters the price of oil and bankrupts US oil companies which is exactly what happened in 2015-16.

Anyone who blames the President for gas prices is a fucking idiot who deserves to be kicked in the nuts repeatedly.
 
Wow some people are really fucking stupid.

Nothing Joe Biden does will have anything more than a nominal impact on the price at the pump because the price of oil is controlled by a cartel who can, at any time, flood or drain the market of oil, driving down or driving up its cost...all at their whim.

So if you screech that Biden should increase production without nationalizing the industry to "keep the oil here", then you're a fucking idiot because OPEC can simply cut production to maintain the current supply (and current price) OR they could decide to choose violence and increase production so much that it craters the price of oil and bankrupts US oil companies which is exactly what happened in 2015-16.

Anyone who blames the President for gas prices is a fucking idiot who deserves to be kicked in the nuts repeatedly.

You prove that every time you post.
 
So this source is recommending that Biden nationalize the gas companies like Mexico did?

OK.... I'm sure the GOP is all for that.

Then it suggests that Biden have the government build and run the refineries.


OK.... I'm sure the GOP is all for that.

What? The GOP isn't for government control of all oil wells and refineries? Then what exactly was the purpose of this hit piece?
 
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