Greg Abbott Silent as Electric Power Grid Operator Urges Texans To Turn Off Appliance

Althea said:
Lie.
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The Big Brown Power Plant was the largest coal (lignite) fired power plant in Texas . They have permanently closed it.


The Big Brown Power Plant and Mine in Fairfield has closed permanently and 168 people are without jobs. Luminant owns the plant. They told KBTX they closed the coal fired power plant due to market forces, the plant's age, and economic factors. It's expected to have an economic impact in Freestone County.
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Primavera said:
If you want to make your electricity grid unstable and subject to outages then introduce large quantities of wind and solar. Ask the Germans they'll tell you.
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I doubt it, they still seem to be saying "Success is just around the corner!".

The Germans ain't what they used to be!
 
evince said:
Only Texas has these problems guys
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California has problems with it's grid moron.

California Faces Summer Blackouts from Climate Extremeshttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/california-faces-summer-blackouts-from-climate-extremes/

Available electricity supplies might not be able to keep up with demand if heat waves hit, droughts make hydropower less available or wildfires reduce electricity transmission, staff of the California Energy Commission (CEC) and California Public Utilities Commission advised agency leaders.
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ExpressLane said:
The solution is to build more nuclear generation.
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That will take years. Double rates now and people will cut back now. Lots of ways to reduce consumption. I live in a region with fairly cold winters (jan high 42 low 16) but some winters i never turn on the heat at all. When you live in an apartment complex, it's not a big deal. The heat is all electric but my electric bills are the same year round and i have no AC.
 
ExpressLane said:
California has problems with it's grid moron.

California Faces Summer Blackouts from Climate Extremeshttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/california-faces-summer-blackouts-from-climate-extremes/
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Primavera said:
If you want to make your electricity grid unstable and subject to outages then introduce large quantities of wind and solar. Ask the Germans they'll tell you.
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States that produce more of their electricity from wind than Texas does...

SD - 57% from wind - $0.1135 https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=SD
ND - 42% from wind - $0.1003 (The cheapest power of any state.)
OK - 41% from wind - $0.1121 https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=OK
NM - 30% from wind, - $0.1344

CO - 27% from wind - 5% from solar - $0.1361 https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=CO
KS - 43% from wind
MN -21%
ME - 24%
NE - 23%

I don't recall any of those states having an unstable grid subject to outages.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
Remove the 10 million illegals in the state and there'd be plenty of electricity.
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Not quite the way I would put it, but Texas IS facing an immigrant wave of 2 types: the typical illegal alien invasion at the border, and the massive exodus from the blue shitholes. Hell, the people's socialist republic of california is HEMMORAGING population and their grid is still fucked up.
 
Callinectes said:
Not quite the way I would put it, but Texas IS facing an immigrant wave of 2 types: the typical illegal alien invasion at the border, and the massive exodus from the blue shitholes. Hell, the people's socialist republic of california is HEMMORAGING population and their grid is still fucked up.
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Text Drivers are Killers said:
That will take years. Double rates now and people will cut back now. Lots of ways to reduce consumption. I live in a region with fairly cold winters (jan high 42 low 16) but some winters i never turn on the heat at all. When you live in an apartment complex, it's not a big deal. The heat is all electric but my electric bills are the same year round and i have no AC.
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So you want to punish poor people.
 
evince said:
CLIMATEWIRE | For the next five summers, extreme heat and other climate change impacts will threaten the reliability of California’s electrical grid, state officials said Friday.




Global warming caused



Glad you know accept GW
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The electrical supply problems in the SDTC are not caused by 'global warming' (whatever THAT is!), or 'climate change' (whatever THAT is!). It is caused by not building sufficient power generating capacity and tearing down existing generating capacity.

Soon it will lose the power it imports from Hoover dam entirely. It's already lost a of it.


No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth, dude. You cannot create energy out of nothing.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
States that produce more of their electricity from wind than Texas does...

SD - 57% from wind - $0.1135 https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=SD
ND - 42% from wind - $0.1003 (The cheapest power of any state.)
OK - 41% from wind - $0.1121 https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=OK
NM - 30% from wind, - $0.1344

CO - 27% from wind - 5% from solar - $0.1361 https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=CO
KS - 43% from wind
MN -21%
ME - 24%
NE - 23%

I don't recall any of those states having an unstable grid subject to outages.
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Wind is piddle power. You cannot produce electricity from it unless the wind is flowing within a limited range of speeds and temperatures are within tolerance ranges. You cannot use wind generators in freezing conditions or when wind speed is outside of the acceptable range (common in the Dakotas, for example). The reason power is so cheap in ND is because of all the coal plants the place has.
 
Into the Night said:
Wind is piddle power. You cannot produce electricity from it unless the wind is flowing within a limited range of speeds and temperatures are within tolerance ranges. You cannot use wind generators in freezing conditions or when wind speed is outside of the acceptable range (common in the Dakotas, for example). The reason power is so cheap in ND is because of all the coal plants the place has.
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I think the biggest problem is that we dont have the battery tech we would need to use massive amounts of intermittent generation, and likely wont for at least a decade, probably two, optimistically.
 
The current Big Idea is that batteries are the wrong idea, the right idea is to make hydrogen with intermittent energy and they use that to power things, which if true means that the current mandate from our masters that we must electrify everything is a massive super expensive blunder.
 
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