Bodega store employee defending his own life kills his attacker and then is charged

[AProudLefty]

Sighs. I gave you proof but you are too stupid to use Google.

No you haven't. All you have provided were a The Federalist article and a GoFundMe page that had nothing to do with the bail and legal defense.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

A corporatist fascist state under "public private partnership" is not a free market so go goosestep off a fucking cliff faggot.

Yup; fat fuck on a keyboard. Talks big, never does a fucking thing. You're 50ish? Early 60ish? I bet your entire life is one long string of fuck ups and examples of Loserhood. Sad.

Sad since you have the power to change it and you are too weak to do anything except whine like a mewling child. Man up, dumbass. Try to spend your last 20 years being a good person, not a loser.

 

[Sawyerloggingon]

Agreed.

Everyone has the unalienable right of self-defense. You can thank the fucking lawyers, but "threat is neutralized" is how they look at it, not "eliminated".

Your right to self-defense ends when you are no longer threatened. If you advance and kill a downed man, that's not self-defense, it's murder. Heat of passion, yes, but still murder.

Neutralized would be the proper legal term and that's a judgment call for the person under attack to make to preserve their own life. If you have rendered your assailant unconscious or completely incapacitated and put a bullet behind their ear you've crossed a line but if there's any possibility your assailant could resume his attack you have the right and indeed the obligation to continue your defensive counter attack.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

violence committed at protests is violent tho.

...and, therefore, criminal. Arrest the criminals, don't fuck with honest citizens. What's the problem here?

 

[Monad Portal]

...and, therefore, criminal. Arrest the criminals, don't fuck with honest citizens. What's the problem here?

the problem is you never truly advocate this principle.

for 1/6 you advocate arresting everyone there.

for blm you're against arresting even the violent and destructive.

and then you have your simp graphics. lol.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Neutralized would be the proper legal term and that's a judgment call for the person under attack to make to preserve their own life. If you have rendered your assailant unconscious or completely incapacitated and put a bullet behind their ear you've crossed a line but if there's any possibility your assailant could resume his attack you have the right and indeed the obligation to continue your defensive counter attack.

Agreed because that's eliminating someone without just cause is murder.

We always have our right of self-defense. That never changes or stops. The point being is that others have that right too. Look at the cop shooting convictions; when did they change for lawful police officer or defender to becoming a murderer? It's the line we are discussing and a line several members on this thread are claiming doesn't exist for black people. That's why they saw a difference between George Floyd and Kyle Rittenhouse.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

the problem is you never truly advocate this principle.

for 1/6 you advocate arresting everyone there.

for blm you're against arresting even the violent and destructive.

and then you have your simp graphics. lol.

Translation: Awww, Dutch. How can I believe you truly advocate this principle if you never go nuts, stomp your feet and threaten murdering others?

I only advocate arresting violent protestors. I'd ask you to post proof I've ever posted anything different but both you and I know you're both a liar and chickenshit, Fredo.

 

[Sawyerloggingon]

Agreed because that's eliminating someone without just cause is murder.

We always have our right of self-defense. That never changes or stops. The point being is that others have that right too. Look at the cop shooting convictions; when did they change for lawful police officer or defender to becoming a murderer? It's the line we are discussing and a line several members on this thread are claiming doesn't exist for black people. That's why they saw a difference between George Floyd and Kyle Rittenhouse.

I'm not seeing any evidence this clerk crossed that line.

 

[Monad Portal]

Translation: Awww, Dutch. How can I believe you truly advocate this principle if you never go nuts, stomp your feet and threaten murdering others?

I only advocate arresting violent protestors. I'd ask you to post proof I've ever posted anything different but both you and I know you're both a liar and chickenshit, Fredo.

you're always calling people here terrorists who need to be dealt with in some violent capacity.

stop lying.

know yourself and know god.

 

[Into the Night]

Two good reasons not to living in fucking New York City.

New York City is not in Louisiana, dumbass.

 

[Into the Night]

Not if the person is down. If you broke into my home wearing a ski mask I can shoot you multiple times but once you are down, I have to stop. I certainly couldn't walk up and give you a coup de grâce.....even though "dead men tell no lies".

You just can't keep track of context, can you?

 

[Into the Night]

Yup; fat fuck on a keyboard. Talks big, never does a fucking thing. You're 50ish? Early 60ish? I bet your entire life is one long string of fuck ups and examples of Loserhood. Sad.

Sad since you have the power to change it and you are too weak to do anything except whine like a mewling child. Man up, dumbass. Try to spend your last 20 years being a good person, not a loser.

You are describing yourself again, Dutch.

 

[Into the Night]

Agreed because that's eliminating someone without just cause is murder.

We always have our right of self-defense. That never changes or stops. The point being is that others have that right too. Look at the cop shooting convictions; when did they change for lawful police officer or defender to becoming a murderer? It's the line we are discussing and a line several members on this thread are claiming doesn't exist for black people. That's why they saw a difference between George Floyd and Kyle Rittenhouse.

George Floyd wasn't murdered. Neither was Kyle Rittenhouse.

 

[Into the Night]

Translation: Awww, Dutch. How can I believe you truly advocate this principle if you never go nuts, stomp your feet and threaten murdering others?

I only advocate arresting violent protestors. I'd ask you to post proof I've ever posted anything different but both you and I know you're both a liar and chickenshit, Fredo.

Lie.

You defend Antifa.
You defend BLM.
You defend the KKK.
You defend the DEMOCRATS.

 

[Monad Portal]

It's the line we are discussing and a line several members on this thread are claiming doesn't exist for black people.

stop lying.

why are you addicted to lying?

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Bodega store employee defending his own life kills his attacker and then is charged
with murder.

Surveillance video captures the moment a Manhattan bodega worker allegedly stabbed a customer to death after the enraged man came around the counter and attacked him over a bag of chips.

The worker is first seen on the shocking video tending to customers from behind the counter at the Hamilton Heights Grocery store on Broadway — when he is suddenly confronted by a younger man.

The customer appears to yell at the store clerk, before shoving him into a shelf, the clip shows.

After several moments, the worker reaches to the right, toward shelves displaying

candy.

He pulls out a large knife and plunges it into the younger man’s neck and chest — which quickly becomes covered in blood, the footage shows.
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So a 61 year old man defends himself from a violent attack from a 35 year old guy with a long criminal record and the Liberal New York DA charges him with murder and throws him in Rikers with $250,000 bail. What happened to self defense? What happened to no bail. The attacker came around the counter and attacked the old man over a bag of chips that his girlfriend had no money on her government issued food stamp card. Perhaps her boyfriend should have just paid for the chips instead of blowing his money on a $300 T shirt he was wearing. Now his expensive T shirt has holes in it and blood stains.

There is no death penalty for stealing a bag of chips!

Nor is any store owner a judge or jury!

Do you honestly believe YOU have the right to fatally stab someone to death because they stole a bag of chips from you?

Damn, boy- YOU ARE STUPID!

 

[ExpressLane]

There is no death penalty for stealing a bag of chips!

Nor is any store owner a judge or jury!

Do you honestly believe YOU have the right to fatally stab someone to death because they stole a bag of chips from you?

Damn, boy- YOU ARE STUPID!

The store employee didn't pull a knife until the Felon came behind the counter then started to beat him. The law doesn't say you have to take a beating before defending your life. Moron. Why don't you Raise the IQ of California and Texas both by moving to California permanently. .

 

[Dutch Uncle]

you're always calling people here terrorists who need to be dealt with in some violent capacity.

stop lying.

know yourself and know god.

New York City is not in Louisiana, dumbass.

You just can't keep track of context, can you?

You are describing yourself again, Dutch.

George Floyd wasn't murdered. Neither was Kyle Rittenhouse.

Lie.

You defend Antifa.
You defend BLM.
You defend the KKK.
You defend the DEMOCRATS.

stop lying.

why are you addicted to lying?

You two make a good team. You should put on red rubber noses, big floppy shoes and take your act on the road.

I disagree with your White Nationalist agenda. Go bother someone else, clowns.

 

[Monad Portal]

You two make a good team. You should put on a red rubber nose, some big floppy shoes and take your act on the road.

I disagree with your White Nationalist agenda. Go bother someone else, clowns.

run away, little girl.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I'm not seeing any evidence this clerk crossed that line.

Me neither. I'm good with self-defense but confess I haven't seen the entire event. No doubt a grand jury or a court will see all of it.