We have been played for fools.

Stone said:
Like I said......it all ends the same.
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At the very beginning of this operation I heard some expert on YouTube, I dont remember who, saying that if the West insists upon continuing to use Ukraine as a battering ram against Russia then Russia will slowly grind Ukraine into rubble, Russia will destroy Ukraine and UKrainian society.

So far this has held up.
 
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I got a kick out of the Russians the other day...."What makes you think that the EU will last long enough for Ukraine to join it?"

The Empire is very confident.
 
The latest great idea from the infant Western leaders is to destroy Russia's Black Sea Fleet.

At some point China is going to get to "ENOUGH!"
 
Cypress said:
It's up to them if they are willing to pay the price for their freedom and sovereignty.

Ukrainians are aware of something you are not. It doesn't matter if they concede some territory to Putin now. His word can't be trusted, and he will be back again in the future to take the rest. All of it.

If giving him territory was the solution, then allowing him to annex Crimea in 2014 should have been the end of the story.

Unlike you, Ukrainians are aware they aren't fighting for little slivers of territory. They are fighting for their national identity. They are resisting 400 years of history during which the tsars considered them nothing more than little Russians subject to the rule of Moscow and the Winter Palace.
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It was MY SIDE that delivered the final death blow to the old USSR, not yours. Meanwhile you guys adopted THIS as your anthem as you clutched your pearls and cried out REAGAN THE MADMAN! ....I havent forgotten.




So,...yeah,...whatever..:thinking: ;)
 
Stone said:
It was MY SIDE that delivered the final death blow to the old USSR, not yours. Meanwhile you guys adopted THIS as your anthem as you clutched your pearls and cried out REAGAN THE MADMAN! ....I havent forgotten.




So,...yeah,...whatever..:thinking: ;)
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And how do you think Reagan would react to your "give Putin everything he wants" attitude?
 
Stone said:
Not me of course,....I tried to warn you. In the end Russia is making MASSIVE BANK from oil sales ,...AND...most likely will end up with a large swath of Ukraine. This is how it goes in most wars,...a negotiated peace. That means give and take btw. Meaning,...by the time all the negotiations are complete Russia will be ADDING land,...not losing land.

BIG WINNERS so far? China and Russia. China has been buying up as much Russian oil as they could get their hands on, and AT A DISCOUNT. :| And Russia is Rolling in money.


Dumb fucks,.....what a bunch of dumb fucks. Gee,....maybe thats why all the positive Ukraine threads suddenly seemed to dry up and blow away around here. People are finally waking up. When the smoke clears WE will end up paying for much of the Ukraine rebuild AND our big corporations will make bank in the Rebuild. Hell,....probably even Bidens Brother Jim AGAIN like he did in Iraq. Meanwhile the Ukrainian people were sacrificed,...all the deaths, all the loss of family members,....for FUCKING MONEY . AGAIN! Whole thing was engineered from the beginning. :palm:
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Stone said:
It was MY SIDE that delivered the final death blow to the old USSR, not yours. Meanwhile you guys adopted THIS as your anthem as you clutched your pearls and cried out REAGAN THE MADMAN! ....I havent forgotten.




So,...yeah,...whatever..:thinking: ;)
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Link?
 
China is getting more overt in their support of Russia.....and they seem to have the support of India....this could get very interesting very rapidly.

So far the West has refused to confront China, but our leaders are amazingly reckless and ignorant, we shall see if that holds.
 
Stone said:
Not me of course,....I tried to warn you. In the end Russia is making MASSIVE BANK from oil sales ,...AND...most likely will end up with a large swath of Ukraine. This is how it goes in most wars,...a negotiated peace. That means give and take btw. Meaning,...by the time all the negotiations are complete Russia will be ADDING land,...not losing land.

BIG WINNERS so far? China and Russia. China has been buying up as much Russian oil as they could get their hands on, and AT A DISCOUNT. :| And Russia is Rolling in money.


Dumb fucks,.....what a bunch of dumb fucks. Gee,....maybe thats why all the positive Ukraine threads suddenly seemed to dry up and blow away around here. People are finally waking up. When the smoke clears WE will end up paying for much of the Ukraine rebuild AND our big corporations will make bank in the Rebuild. Hell,....probably even Bidens Brother Jim AGAIN like he did in Iraq. Meanwhile the Ukrainian people were sacrificed,...all the deaths, all the loss of family members,....for FUCKING MONEY . AGAIN! Whole thing was engineered from the beginning. :palm:
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Oh we know. I am glad you woke up.
 
Stone said:
It was MY SIDE that delivered the final death blow to the old USSR, not yours. Meanwhile you guys adopted THIS as your anthem as you clutched your pearls and cried out REAGAN THE MADMAN! ....I havent forgotten.




So,...yeah,...whatever..:thinking: ;)
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We're on the same side, though it is revealing you consider me an enemy.

Reagan had almost nothing to do with the downfall of the USSR, although he did continue the containment strategy of Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy .


Mikhail Gorbachev engineered, unwittingly, the downfall of the USSR.

Reagan boosting defense spending Pentagon spending by 15 percent, or grabbing the island of Grenada would not have been nearly enough to cause Soviets to run up the white flag of surrender. These are the people who ate rats and sawdust rather than surrender to the Nazi hordes at the gates of Saint Petersburg.
 
Russia will take Ukraine.

They will have billions of dollars of American weapons.

Sounds like what Biden did in Afghanistan.
 
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