Should the Federal Gov't change its standard for FORCED STATE INSTITUIONALIZATION?

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Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
"Isolating people with disabilities in big state institutions when there is no medical reason for their confinement is a form of discrimination that violates Federal disabilities law, the Supreme Court ruled today.

The 6-to-3 decision, in a case brought against the State of Georgia by two women with mental impairment, was a substantial victory for a disabilities rights movement that has looked to the Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990 as a tool for breaking down institutional walls that separate people with serious mental and physical problems from the larger community. ... "

https://www.nytimes.com/1999/06/23/us/states-limited-on-institutionalization.html
 
"The Supreme Court's decision six months ago to hear Georgia's appeal in this case alarmed advocates for people with disabilities, who feared that the Court might steer the law in the opposite direction and reverse the nationwide trend toward deinstitutionalization."
 
Curious that the liberal judges rendered this decision to empty the State Asylums just 2 months after the Columbine tragedy.
 
At this point, the white libs must be really confused by the actual facts.
 
This is all started with JFK, not Reagan

"Out of the Asylum, Into The Cell

By Sally Satel
Nov. 1, 2003


A new report by Human Rights Watch has found that American prisons and jails contain three times more mentally ill people than do our psychiatric hospitals. The study confirmed what mental health and corrections experts have long known: incarceration has become the nation's default mental health treatment. And while the report offers good suggestions on how to help those who are incarcerated, a bigger question is what we can do to keep them from ending up behind bars at all.

The Los Angeles County jail, with 3,400 mentally ill prisoners, functions as the largest psychiatric inpatient institution in the United States. New York's Rikers Island, with 3,000 mentally ill inmates, is second. According to the Justice Department, roughly 16 percent of American inmates have serious psychiatric illnesses like schizophrenia, manic-depressive illness and disabling depression.

Life on the inside is a special nightmare for these inmates. They are targets of cruel manipulation and of physical and sexual abuse. Bizarre behavior, like responding to imaginary voices or self-mutilation, can get them punished -- and the usual penalty, solitary confinement, only worsens hallucinations and delusions.

How did we get here? Actually, with the best of intentions.

Forty years ago yesterday, President John F. Kennedy signed the Community Mental Health Centers Act, under which large state hospitals for the mentally ill would give way to small community clinics. He said of the law that the ''reliance on the cold mercy of custodial isolation will be supplanted by the open warmth of community concern and capability.''

Kennedy was acting in response to a genuine shift in attitudes toward the mentally ill during the postwar years. The public and lawmakers had become aware of the dreadful conditions in the state hospitals, largely though exposés like Albert Deutsch's book ''The Shame of the States'' and popular entertainment like the movie ''The Snake Pit,'' both of which appeared in 1948. In addition, Thorazine, an anti-psychotic medication, became available in the mid-50's and rendered many patients calm enough for discharge.

Between Kennedy's signing of the mental health law in 1963 and its expiration in 1980, the number of patients in state mental hospitals dropped by about 70 percent. But asylum reform had a series of unintended consequences. The nation's 700 or so community mental health centers could not handle the huge numbers of fragile patients who had been released after spending months or years in the large institutions.

There were not enough psychiatrists and health workers willing to roll up their sleeves and take on these tough cases. Closely supervised treatment, community-supported housing and rehabilitation were given short shrift. In addition, civil liberties law gained momentum in the 70's and made it unreasonably hard for judges to commit patients who relapsed but refused care. Those discharged from state hospitals were often caught in a revolving door, quickly failing in the community and going back to the institution. And they were the lucky ones -- many others ended up living in flop-houses, on the streets or, as Human Rights Watch has reminded us, in prison.

Reforms like segregating mentally ill prisoners in treatment units would help. Of course, the ultimate solution is keeping psychotic people whose criminal infractions are a product of their sickness out of jails in the first place. This requires a two-part approach. The first entails repairing a terribly fragmented mental health care system. The most important change would be liberating states from the straitjacket of federal regulations surrounding the use of money from Medicaid and Medicare -- programs that account for two-thirds of every public dollar spent on the mentally ill.

These regulations force many states to make rigid rules dictating what services will and won't be reimbursed, which forces practitioners and administrators to perform bureaucratic gymnastics to circumvent them. ... "

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/01/opinion/out-of-the-asylum-into-the-cell.html
 
The Aurora shooter, the Va Tech shooter, the Parkland shooter, etc. might have been prevented if not for this scotus ruling tying the hands of the individual States.
 
The Democrats are more for providing for the mentally challenged through America's American Care Act.

The Republicans are trying to vote to keep the mentally challenged in Congress and back into the White House again!

Now that is a huge contrast in ideology right there!
 
I am just going to say this- Donald Trump should be locked up- NOT BECAUSE HE IS CRAZY- BUT BECAUSE HE IS A CRIMINAL!

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You want the Federal Government to institutionalize people who have not committed crimes?

Are they a threat to themselves or others ? Yes ? You bet your ass I do.

Crazy people do not distinguish right and wrong and cannot be loosed on society any more than criminals can.
 
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