Only way left to get gun reform in America is by going after the manufactures;

[archives]

Something to consider as the Revolution considers fuel price controls ala the Soviet Union.

The "Revolution," it can mean anything to anybody

 

[archives]

Hello archives,



Most Democrats support stricter gun laws.

True, but their politicians, other than rhetoric, do little about it

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello archives,

True, but their politicians, other than rhetoric, do little about it

Democrats already voted for stricter background checks. Passed in the House. Stalled in the Senate. Republicans are blocking it.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Rather extreme example, no, if there is a buck to be made, someone will still make the weapons for military, police, etc, but those that mass produce and promote such for general consumption regardless of consequences should be held accountable

Should automobile producers be held responsible for drunk drivers who kill people with their cars?

 

[Grokmaster]

BIZARRE HOW THE LEFT'S "SOLUTION" IS TO "GO AFTER" EVERYTHING BUT THE CRIMINALS AT FAULT.

 

[Into the Night]

I had no idea. I thought the republicans had shielded all the gun manufacturers from any liability or loss due to lawsuit's.

Considering it's the equivalent of suing a cattle rancher because you burned your steak, it makes sense to shield gun manufacturers from the liability or loss due to one twit that decides to go out and murder people.

 

[Into the Night]

The courts can order reparations ?

Unconstitutional.

 

[Into the Night]

Federal Judge’s decision isn’t restricted to State lines, you missed have missed the lesson on Federalism in school

Federal judges have no authority to change the Constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

Ah, no it wasn’t, and as we all know, automobile makers can be sued over their product,

Not for using their model automobile to run people over with. Only for defects.

just as the Sandy Hook case showed the same can be done for gun manufacturers,

Not for using their gun to murder people with, only for defects.

especially they way they market it,

Irrelevant.

and you are thinking small, shocking, the first entities would be those that sell the gun, be it a private or public sale

Unconstitutional.

 

[Into the Night]

It is but the gun manufacturers own the GOP so sensible gun reform is never going to happen legislatively, you been living under a rock

You are discarding the Constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

Again, just not getting it, autos are made for transportation, guns are made for killing, especially semiautomatic guns, that is their reason for being, the two aren’t comparable, and as much as you bloviate, the Sandy Hook parents prove you wrong

First you compare them, then you say they are not comparable. You now locked in paradox. You are being irrational.

A considerable percentage of those big city homicides you love to stereotype would decrease if the public or private gun dealer who sold straw purchases suddenly was held accountable financially

You cannot blame millions of people for the actions of a few. You cannot blame the gun manufacturers because they sold guns to millions of people that did not shoot up a school.

 

[Into the Night]

Guns are made to kill, simple fact,

Guns are made for many reasons. Killing is one of them. The right of self defense is inherent. The right to shoot a bad guy with a gun to protect the innocent is inherent.

did you really think semiautomatic weapons were created for the military for squirrel hunting?

The type of action on a weapon does not matter. Even the type of weapon does not matter. The right of self defense is inherent. You are discarding the Constitution.

You don’t bring much to this topic, generalizations and radio rhetoric, if you can’t offer something better, move on

I offer the Constitution of the United States and the constitutions of the several States. It is very clear. The government cannot ban or limit any type of gun in any way, or any weapon at all for that matter.

 

[Into the Night]

Ah, no, not with the filibuster intact, you know that, and the laws existing now are ineffective, go to “Armslist” on Google, agree to one generalized page stating legalities and you can get the weapon of your choice, and that is one of many on the regular internet, dark web has more

So?

 

[Into the Night]

Agree. America is violent.

Actually, as nations go, America enjoys a rather low homicide rate, despite the recent school shootings.

 

[Into the Night]

BIZARRE HOW THE LEFT'S "SOLUTION" IS TO "GO AFTER" EVERYTHING BUT THE CRIMINALS AT FAULT.

Because they are the criminals. They are protecting their own. Remember, they fund and support Antifa, BLM, the KKK, and other violent criminal factions.

For all we know, the recent shooting in Texas was staged by the Democrats for the purpose of banning guns. The police and the school involved have a lot of 'splainin' to do.

 

[Into the Night]

Frankly, the Democrats had better do some serious naval gazing before they start a war trying to take away guns from millions of people that are not going to give them up[\i].

 

[LurchAddams]

Considering it's the equivalent of suing a cattle rancher because you burned your steak, it makes sense to shield gun manufacturers from the liability or loss due to one twit that decides to go out and murder people.

Right. So lets so away with all torts. If a gun misfires and kills it's owner.. too bad.. the guy shouldn't have burned his steak.

What I'm trying to say I you're not making sense.

 

[LurchAddams]

Frankly, the Democrats had better do some serious naval gazing before they start a war trying to take away guns from millions of people that are not going to give them up[\i].

We don't want a war. You guys want the war. Like you attacked us on 1/6 and the Civil War before that. White supremacist thinking, the genesis of both the Civil War and 1/6 proves who are the terrorists.. and it's NOT us.

So it's the guns. You love your guns. We just want the ones who prevent cops from saving kids.

You can keep the rest.

 

[LurchAddams]

Because they are the criminals. They are protecting their own. Remember, they fund and support Antifa, BLM, the KKK, and other violent criminal factions.

For all we know, the recent shooting in Texas was staged by the Democrats for the purpose of banning guns. The police and the school involved have a lot of 'splainin' to do.

Oh, my God.

 

[LurchAddams]

Actually, as nations go, America enjoys a rather low homicide rate, despite the recent school shootings.

You're right. Out of the entire world, the US is 4th in homicides after El Salvador, Venezuela and Hondurus! USA!!! LOL

What surprised me is Belize being #7. What's up with that?

Top 10 Countries with the Highest Murder Rates (per 100k people) in 2017:*
El Salvador (61.7)
Honduras (41.0)
Venezuela (49.9)
United States Virgin Islands (49.3 [2012 data])
Jamaica (56.4)
Lesotho (43.6 [[2016 data]] per 100k people)
Belize (37.8)
Saint Vincent And The Grenadines (36.5 [2016 data])
Saint Kitts And Nevis (36.1 [2012 data])
South Africa (35.7)