Photo of TX government press conference today

Althea said:
Remember when Abbot cited a crackdown on rape as an answer to denying abortions for rape victims?

Any movement on that?

Or funding for 'mental health'?
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Worthless right-wing shitbags like Abbott and the rest of them, can say any bullshit they want no matter how lame, because they know as well as we do how fucking stupid their rwnj supporters are.
 
Althea said:
Correct. Cut funding to mental health, and then blame that strawman when there is a shooting.

After trump ended any limit on people with mental health issues when buying guns.

So...paranoid schizophrenics can buy guns as long as they are medicated? Is there some sort of blood test at the gun store?
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Unfortunately, you are 100% correct.

Trump is a pedophile and a spineless coward. IIRC, all he did was rescind an EO. It's up to Congress to pass laws and it's up to voters to not only elect their Congressional reps, but to keep the pressure on them to do their frickin' jobs.

As for mental health; it's both a matter of degree and also a matter of danger to themselves or others. Most schizos are more of a danger to themselves than others, but there is a higher rate of violence by schizos, mostly those who self-medicate with street drugs. Such determinations should be left up to a review panel of expert psychiatrists/psychologist based upon both degree of illness and response to treatment, but I doubt most schizos should be allowed near a firearm mainly for their own protection.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4905518/
Schizophrenia was associated with an increased risk of violent crime in this longitudinal study. This association was attenuated by adjustment for substance abuse, suggesting a mediating effect. The role of risk assessment, management, and treatment in individuals with comorbidity needs further examination.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6681260/
Suicide is an important public health problem. The most frequent psychiatric illnesses associated with suicide or severe suicide attempt are mood and psychotic disorders. The purpose of this paper is to provide an educational overview of suicidal behavior in individuals with schizophrenia. A lifetime suicide rate in individuals with schizophrenia is approximately 10%. Suicide is the largest contributor to the decreased life expectancy in individuals with schizophrenia. Demographic and psychosocial factors that increase a risk of suicide in individuals with schizophrenia include younger age, being male, being unmarried, living alone, being unemployed, being intelligent, being well-educated, good premorbid adjustment or functioning, having high personal expectations and hopes, having an understanding that life’s expectations and hopes are not likely to be met, having had recent (i.e., within past 3 months) life events, having poor work functioning, and having access to lethal means, such as firearms.
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Althea said:
Sure. Outside. Given the 'freedom!' stench that will be pervasive, I'm curious if that applies to black men with guns inside the event?
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If guns are allowed inside, then those allowed to carry them will be based upon law, not racism.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Unfortunately, you are 100% correct.

Trump is a pedophile and a spineless coward. IIRC, all he did was rescind an EO. It's up to Congress to pass laws and it's up to voters to not only elect their Congressional reps, but to keep the pressure on them to do their frickin' jobs.
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In this instance, Congress did exactly what you proposed. They did their 'jobs' for the corporations that own this country

Both the House and Senate last week passed the new bill, H.J. Res 40, revoking the Obama-era regulation.
Trump signed the bill into law without a photo op or fanfare. The president welcomed cameras into the oval office Tuesday for the signing of other executive orders and bills. News that the president signed the bill was tucked at the bottom of a White House email alerting press to other legislation signed by the president.
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Dutch Uncle said:
As for mental health; it's both a matter of degree and also a matter of danger to themselves or others. Most schizos are more of a danger to themselves than others, but there is a higher rate of violence by schizos, mostly those who self-medicate with street drugs. Such determinations should be left up to a review panel of expert psychiatrists/psychologist based upon both degree of illness and response to treatment, but I doubt most schizos should be allowed near a firearm mainly for their own protection.
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Given Abbot's new lax regulations, nothing stops a schizo from purchasing a gun of any type in Texas. With so many guns on the street, straw sales account for many of the mass shootings. There was a nut who got out of prison in NY several years ago. He did hard time for murdering his grandmother.

He got out, seduced the neighbor's daughter to buy him an AR and a shotgun, and then set his grandmother's house on fire.

When first responders got to the scene, he picked them off like squirrels on a bird feeder.
 
Althea said:
In this instance, Congress did exactly what you proposed. They did their 'jobs' for the corporations that own this country




Given Abbot's new lax regulations, nothing stops a schizo from purchasing a gun of any type in Texas. With so many guns on the street, straw sales account for many of the mass shootings. There was a nut who got out of prison in NY several years ago. He did hard time for murdering his grandmother.

He got out, seduced the neighbor's daughter to buy him an AR and a shotgun, and then set his grandmother's house on fire.

When first responders got to the scene, he picked them off like squirrels on a bird feeder.
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Banning things for Freedom is like fucking for virginity. The problem is mental illness. It's the base problem for suicides, most murders and chronic homelessness.

The most common firearm used for suicides and murders is a handgun. So why the focus on banning ARs and high capacity magazines? Because it's a stepping stone to a general gun ban.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Banning things for Freedom is like fucking for virginity. The problem is mental illness. It's the base problem for suicides, most murders and chronic homelessness.

The most common firearm used for suicides and murders is a handgun. So why the focus on banning ARs and high capacity magazines? Because it's a stepping stone to a general gun ban.
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I'm not going to delve into the specifics with you because although we agree, you come from a different position than I do.

'Slippery slope' is a catchphrase that the deniers always fall back on.

Some argue that the 2nd applies to muskets and black powder pistols. I think the problem with the AR types is the capacity of the magazines. Can someone kill dozens of people with a handgun? Yes. The question is if they could be stopped while they have to reload.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Where was it taken? What is your solution?
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Solution? You think there's a solution to the inherent racism among many police forces? In the nation for that matter?

Everyone deserves the right to vote.

Unless of course you don't vote Republican. Which includes many non whites.

What this 'test' proves is the glaring contradiction in the freedom lovers' argument. Everyone should be armed, unless the 'scare' you.

Thus the SYG laws.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Banning things for Freedom is like fucking for virginity. The problem is mental illness. It's the base problem for suicides, most murders and chronic homelessness.

The most common firearm used for suicides and murders is a handgun. So why the focus on banning ARs and high capacity magazines? Because it's a stepping stone to a general gun ban.
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Maybe the answer is to give everyone a gun, but make ammo a bit harder to acquire?
 
LurchAddams said:
Man. There's even if they unbanned me, or I was successful in sneaking in a sock, there's no way I could go back to DP now. I can't be domesticated again. I've been out in the wild too long, I'm a loose cannon.

You probably don't have a clue what I'm talking about. Don't worry about it.
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I assume DP is a message board?
 
Althea said:
I'm not going to delve into the specifics with you because although we agree, you come from a different position than I do.

'Slippery slope' is a catchphrase that the deniers always fall back on.

Some argue that the 2nd applies to muskets and black powder pistols. I think the problem with the AR types is the capacity of the magazines. Can someone kill dozens of people with a handgun? Yes. The question is if they could be stopped while they have to reload.
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Let's think numbers: How many lives would be saved by banning ARs and high capacity magazines versus banning handguns? How about banning all guns versus better mental health care?

The data indicates better mental health care would save tens of thousands of lives each year by preventing suicides and murder (often murder/suicides).

Consider the person who drives the wrong way on a highway for miles before being killed in a head-on. Accident or elaborate suicide in lieu of pills, a necktie or a single-shot pistol?
 
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