As much as I hate to say it, gun control will never happen in America

You know. Historically, you would be correct. But now, we've got a right-wing, weaponized SCOTUS that just took us back 30 years and school shooting after school shooting.

Remember in '20 when we thought all was lost, then we took both Senate seats in GA? Could happen on a larger scale now. The Republican thugs have finally "caught the car".

news flash. school shootings were happening before trump nominated conservatives to SCOTUS
 
do we even know where he got the guns>
reminds me of Biden last night "jumping the gun" to use a twisted phrase.

Most guns used in crimes are illegally obtained -gun control doesnt do a damn thing

What difference does it make? Are you that gullible to think that anyone who wants a gun can’t get a gun? We got more guns than people out there, and easy access even legally to way to many guns
 
there is no meaningful regulation that will help.

meaningful regulation of lunatics would help a great deal.

but even here its not a matter of regulation but enforcement.

when was the last time a mental health professional was prosecuted for failure to report a patient for being a threat to himself or others as is required by law ?

I'll spare you the trouble, never.

Go back to Columbine and look at all mass shootings and without fail SOMEONE with the training to know let the killer ooze through the cracks with the result of people dying.
 
Ah, the majority of those developed nations he is referring to rank higher by all indicators in measurable freedom categories than are own country

as evidenced by china and australias round up of citizens....or the warrantless entry and searches of homes in boston after a bombing, or the systematic confiscation of firearms after katrina.......

your formula for freedom is as corrupt as your patriotism
 
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so what's the point of gun control?
we need more red flag follow up. I hate that concept but the kid was acting out?

There is no 1 answer fits all. harden targets, try to intervene.
Prosecute gun crimes too is about all we can do

No, there are common sense ways to regulate guns, but as we all know, as I said in the topic post, that ain’t happening, that minority and gutless politicians, both under the control of the gun manufacturers, won’t let it happen, probably ever, no matter how many little kids get slaughtered sitting in a classroom
 
What difference does it make? Are you that gullible to think that anyone who wants a gun can’t get a gun? We got more guns than people out there, and easy access even legally to way to many guns
slow down. get off the soapbox. Your OP is about gun control.

Best thing to do is prosecute for guns -and that means like stop and frisk ,and no more Soros typed DA's
that dont prosecute for holdups, brandishing etc. Make possessing an illegal gun a prosecutable crime if yu want to talk about reducing the amount of guns in crimes
 
Another one who doesn’t get it, you could put a police precinct in every school, encircle the perimeter with claymores, and it won’t matter, the next shooter will just find another target, any location two or more people meet, you can’t predict the shooter nor protect all targets, the only variable you can control is the gun

So, I extrapolate that any new gun laws passed will be ineffective. I agree.
As far as hardening the schools go, talk to an Israeli. It works and works well. Side benefit, it costs less than the $$$ we just sent to Ukraine.
If you are concerned about running into a situation like this while at Target (no pun intended) learn to defend yourself. The police that the lefties hate so much will be there in a few minutes, maybe.
 
No, there are common sense ways to regulate guns, but as we all know, as I said in the topic post, that ain’t happening, that minority and gutless politicians, both under the control of the gun manufacturers, won’t let it happen, probably ever, no matter how many little kids get slaughtered sitting in a classroom
like what common sense?
A gun is an inanimate object. You have to prosecute for behaviors

But blaming gun manufactures for slaughter is like blaming war weapons makers for wars
 
as evidenced by china and australias round up of citizens....or the warrantless entry and searches of homes in boston after a bombing, or the systematic confiscation of firearms after katrina.......

your formula for freedom is as corrupt as your patriotism

As I said, you will never get it, when you have to resort to “Nazism” and “China” it just shows you are floundering, and you probably never will get it, as I said in the topic post, the obstinate minority who swallows all the masquerades propaganda peddled by the gun manufacturers
 
You know. Historically, you would be correct. But now, we've got a right-wing, weaponized SCOTUS that just took us back 30 years and school shooting after school shooting.

Remember in '20 when we thought all was lost, then we took both Senate seats in GA? Could happen on a larger scale now. The Republican thugs have finally "caught the car".

I don't know anything about Georgia, "we" or who took what.

As for SCOTUS and a school shooting, that's not how most people vote in the mid-terms IMO. They vote locally...and usually out of fear from all the fear-mongers.
 
As I said, you will never get it, when you have to resort to “Nazism” and “China” it just shows you are floundering, and you probably never will get it, as I said in the topic post, the obstinate minority who swallows all the masquerades propaganda peddled by the gun manufacturers

clearly you don't know what you're talking about. wishful thinking never got anyone anywhere
 
here's how your logic fails. the US might have 400 million guns, but if we're not carrying them in public, they don't do public any good. a fact that you either willfully ignore or are unable to comprehend

It's sort of the opposite. The guns are less harmful if they're locked away at home than if people are carrying them around. Life is full of frustrations. Some drunken jerk insults you in a bar, someone cuts you off in traffic, someone propositions your wife when you're walking down the street, etc. If you briefly lose your shit over such things, but no gun's at hand, chances are you'll come to your senses before that frustration leaves a body count. But if we're carrying those guns around with us, all it takes is a single second when a person passes that threshold of anger where he's just not thinking. One single second of insanity is enough to end someone's life when death is a one-inch trigger-pull away.

That's why we see that international murder rates track more closely with the looseness of gun laws and the prevalence of hand guns, rather than just guns-per-capita numbers. If you've got a situation like Switzerland, where a lot of people have guns but they're locked up at home (or at a gun range) nearly all the time, that tends to mean fewer murders than if you have people walking around with concealed handguns day and night, easily at hand if they're emotionally triggered into a moment of violent rage (or violent depression, in the case of suicide, or just stupid carelessness, in the case of accidental shootings).
 
What difference does it make? Are you that gullible to think that anyone who wants a gun can’t get a gun? We got more guns than people out there, and easy access even legally to way to many guns
you are ranting. we've always had "too many guns" IMHO- but short of confiscation ...is that what you wanrt?
 
like what common sense?
A gun is an inanimate object. You have to prosecute for behaviors

But blaming gun manufactures for slaughter is like blaming war weapons makers for wars

No, not for wars, but the total destruction cited by wars, although that is irrelevant

As I explained before, there are three elements in every mass shooting, the shooter, the target, and the weapon. No one can predict who the next shooter will be, and we can not protect all the potential targets out there, but we do have some control over what makes it all possible, the gun, as I said, common sense, this is the avenue you purse if you are really interested in stopping the next mass shooting
 
No, not for wars, but the total destruction cited by wars, although that is irrelevant

As I explained before, there are three elements in every mass shooting, the shooter, the target, and the weapon. No one can predict who the next shooter will be, and we can not protect all the potential targets out there, but we do have some control over what makes it all possible, the gun, as I said, common sense, this is the avenue you purse if you are really interested in stopping the next mass shooting
"the gun" is not a policy. "gun control" -what do you mean.
you are not being specific other then you want less guns
I hate them too - aint happening. so come up with specific ideas, and we'll debate it
 
I don't know anything about Georgia, "we" or who took what.

As for SCOTUS and a school shooting, that's not how most people vote in the mid-terms IMO. They vote locally...and usually out of fear from all the fear-mongers.

The Dems are the only party that are going to save you, friend. As much as it pains you, you're going to have to jump on our train, if there's any hope. Who else you got? I'll listen.
 
you are ranting. we've always had "too many guns" IMHO- but short of confiscation ...is that what you wanrt?

No we did not, guns never out numbered people, nor was gun deaths more numerous than car fatalities, and you don’t have to have confiscation, but going forward, stricter gun regulations

And it is not ranting, rather exchanging real content on guns in America, not the usual “rights, freedoms, and Constitutional” bullshit the right always wants to deflect to
 
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