As much as I hate to say it, gun control will never happen in America

zymurgy said:
you will never change the laws that allow citizens to defend themselves. it is a central tenet of limited government in the republic,

the problem seems to be growing.- why? I suspect as authoritarians shit holes continue to believe they can force their views on everyone and turn away from freedom and liberty, it will get worse and worse
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Once again the masqueraded propaganda, got to love the “defend themselves” bullshit, like Attila and the Huns are going to knock on the door anytime now

And the implied “freedom” crap is laughable, only gun huggers can turn an abstract concept into a bumper sticker cliche
 
evince said:
More guns did not work like you promised

Banning a type of gun is not banning you having a gun
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You and I both know it's a stepping stone process to a total gun ban...except for the rich.

It's the same process the Republicans used to ban abortion; they erode a right until there's no more right remaining to erode. It's wrong but most people on this forum support such authoritarian domination of Americans.

The problem isn't semi-automatic rifles; it's crazy people and criminals with firearms. Usually handguns. Handguns are responsible 59% of the 13,620 US gun murders whereas "assault weapons" are only responsible for 3% of gun murders. Suicides, about 60% of all "gun violence" usually take one shot, often a pistol.

So tell me again how "assault weapons" are the primary problem in our nation?

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/02/03/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/
The 24,292 gun suicides that took place in 2020 were the most in any year except 2018, when there were 24,432....

...In 2020, handguns were involved in 59% of the 13,620 U.S. gun murders and non-negligent manslaughters for which data is available, according to the FBI. Rifles – the category that includes guns sometimes referred to as “assault weapons” – were involved in 3% of firearm murders. Shotguns were involved in 1%. The remainder of gun homicides and non-negligent manslaughters (36%) involved other kinds of firearms or those classified as “type not stated.”
 
archives said:
Once again the masqueraded propaganda, got to love the “defend themselves” bullshit, like Attila and the Huns are going to knock on the door anytime now

And the implied “freedom” crap is laughable, only gun huggers can turn an abstract concept into a bumper sticker cliche
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it's cognitive dissonance - you are the problem, not the solution

you see it on this forum and in national politics all the time. the life of a deplorables is of less value.
 
archives said:
Been hearing the same deflection bullshit from the right for decades, it’s all cause there are mentally ill people out there, notice how those mentally I’ll are still there and mass shootings still present, in fact, it was the NRA who challenged efforts to restrict individuals thought ill from access to guns, can’t take away their “rights”
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Correct, for decades. How many times have you contacted your congresspeople or local officials and demanded that they harden the schools or are you one of those that screech that the police must be removed from schools and their funds cut off?
 
Fox can not be allowed to sell information that caused deaths instead of informing people



That needs to be illegal




No society can survive while an entity is allowed to sell lies as facts without consequence
 
SmarterthanYou said:
we protect property, money, valuables, and politicians with guns, but your kids aren't worthy of protecting...........answer that, dipshit
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You just don’t get it, blinded by that gun manufacturers propaganda, you could station the 101st Airborne in every school in America, erect electrified fences on the perimeter, and it won’t help, the shooter will just find another target, any location where two or more people gather, you can’t control the shooter, not predict the target, the only variable you can have some control over is that which makes it all happen, the gun
 
archives said:
Means nothing, “the constitution is the constitution,” tell that to the parents of the 19 little kids who were slaughtered, “sorry, but the constitution is the constitution”
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And it’s just their interpretations of that constitution


So it’s a meaningless argument



Democracy was not planned as a suicide pact
 
archives said:
You just don’t get it, blinded by that gun manufacturers propaganda, you could station the 101st Airborne in every school in America, erect electrified fences on the perimeter, and it won’t help, the shooter will just find another target, any location where two or more people gather, you can’t control the shooter, not predict the target, the only variable you can have some control over is that which makes it all happen, the gun
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They want American children conditioned to having armed guards in every aspect of their lives



It’s grooming kids for fascism
 
archives said:
And there it is, as I noted, swallowing the “masqueraded propaganda,” like the Founding Fathers thought it was better to make sure some one had the “right” to easily slaughter kids
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There is no right to slaughter kids, easily or otherwise, but there IS a right to keep and bear arms. Those are two different things, dude.

archives said:
than to do what was necessary to protect kids
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Demonkkkrats wish to MURDER kids, dude... They are currently trying to pass off child murder for convenience as "healthcare".

And "protect kids"?? hahahaha ...

I don't consider grooming children to be protecting them.
I don't consider mutilating their genitals to be protecting them.
I don't consider masking them up (and others around them) to the point where they have developmental issues (speech or otherwise) to be protecting them.
I don't consider instilling racism and fear into them to be protecting them.
I don't consider instilling confusion and lies about their anatomy to be protecting them.
I don't consider the condoning of child pornography to be protecting them.
I don't consider the condoning of joint bathrooms (based on the buzzword "gender identification") to be protecting them.
I don't consider the "everyone is a winner" mentality to be protecting them.

These are all things that liberals tend to condone doing to children AFTER they are born, IF those children even manage to make it out of their mother's womb before some Demonkkkrat murders them for convenience, and the list could go on and on...
 
archives said:
Means nothing, “the constitution is the constitution,” tell that to the parents of the 19 little kids who were slaughtered, “sorry, but the constitution is the constitution”
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the founders created a limited government to protect and safeguard our rights. those RIGHTS should allow us to protect our little kids in schools, but cowards like you aren't capable, nor do you believe your fellow humans are, so you assign that duty to government agents who have no obligation, responsibility, or liability to do so...........tell THAT to the parents
 
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