Here are the 11 Republican senators who voted against the $40 billion Ukraine aid pac

[dukkha]

No arguing with that knowledge. This is a fire. Fighting it early is cheaper than fighting it late.

fighting Russia in Ukraine has no bearing on Russia and and Chinese combined
military in air and sea

China can build up Russian tanks/armor if needed -but the real use of Russia to China is hypersonics and SAM arrays, and short range & ballistic missiles. Russian missiles are best in the world

Russian land military was never going to be much help to Russia except for a contested land wear in Asia-
which aint happening after Afghanistan.
Russian armor cant possible touch any NATO state before or after the invasion


You react like McConnell; without applying any weapons systems thought other then sloganeering

 

[Walt]

fighting Russia in Ukraine has no bearing on Russia and and Chinese combined military in air and sea

The Chinese see the Russian invasion of Ukraine as a testing ground for their planned invasion of Taiwan, and it is not going as planned. Russia does not have control over the Ukrainian air, and does not have control over Ukrainian waters. For China to invade Taiwan, they would need absolute control over air and sea.

China can build up Russian tanks/armor if needed

Why would they want to? Why would they need to? Could they really? Chinese tanks are not particularly great, and Russia's bigger problem is losing tank crews. The whole purpose of Chinese tanks has been to compete with Russian tanks. If they have better tanks than we know, they would not want to give them to their most obvious tank opponent.

Russian missiles are best in the world

No, they really do not. Their guidance systems are third rate at best.

You react like McConnell; without applying any weapons systems thought other then sloganeering

All your claimed "expertise" does not change the fact Russia is not winning.

 

[dukkha]

The Chinese see the Russian invasion of Ukraine as a testing ground for their planned invasion of Taiwan, and it is not going as planned. Russia does not have control over the Ukrainian air, and does not have control over Ukrainian waters. For China to invade Taiwan, they would need absolute control over air and sea.
No, they really do not. Their guidance systems are third rate at best.

All your claimed "expertise" does not change the fact Russia is not winning.

what type of guidance for what missile? Their hypersonic in Ukraine is unmatched by any NATO weapon
It's accurate and evades ABM system .

Also we can only launch hypersonics by an aircraft lift platform
Russian hypersonics can be launched by ship, submarine, aircraft, and land-based mobile launchers.
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the USA will maybe catch up, and this is in development -but Russian missiles including SAM
are the best in the world.
That'sthe real military advantage given to China by their "enduring friendship"
The exception is the USA's Wireless TOW (Javelin)

I dont claim any expertise but i know how to and do the research. link this FYI
https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/americ...lead-in-hypersonic-cruise-missile-technology/
The first successful test was of a Northrop Grumman design that took place last Fall, while the second, more recent test leveraged a Lockheed Martin scramjet. This is an important point, as it seems to suggest that the United States now has at least two functional scramjet designs for weapons applications. Although the US is regularly seen as behind in the modern hypersonic arms race, this announcement may suggest that the US now leads the way in the race to field scramjet-powered hypersonic cruise missiles.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=scramjet+engine
scramjet (supersonic-combustion ramjet) is a ramjet engine in which the airflow through the engine remains supersonic, or greater than the speed of sound. Scramjet powered vehicles are envisioned to operate at speeds up to at least Mach 15.Se

 

[gemini104104]

Here are the 11 Republican senators who voted against the $40 billion Ukraine aid package

One idiot senator from Tennessee, is more worried about formula shortage here in the US than genocide, rape and pillage of Ukraine by Russia?!!

I'm just glad Trump is not in office now, Ukraine would have conquered back in February?!!

• The Senate passed $40 billion in aid to Ukraine for military equipment and humanitarian assistance.
• But 11 GOP senators — including Josh Hawley, Rand Paul, and Marsha Blackburn — voted against it.
• They say it's too much money, isn't paid for, and doesn't reflect a "nationalist" foreign policy.

[FONT=&]The US Senate passed a bill on Thursday providing $40 billion in military aid and economic support to Ukraine, sending it to President Joe Biden's desk after the House approved the package last week.
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[FONT=&]The bill includes tens of billions of dollars in funding for lethal aid to the Ukrainian military, billions to the State Department to provide economic-development aid to the war-torn country, and roughly $4 billion for tackling global food shortages caused by the war.
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[FONT=&]"Today, the Senate will approve more lethal assistance for Ukraine," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said in a floor speech on Thursday. "And it's going to be a bipartisan landslide."
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[FONT=&]But passage of the bill had been stalled for a week by McConnell's fellow Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, who insisted that an inspector general be appointed to oversee the aid spending.
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[FONT=&]While the aid package passed the chamber with unanimous Democratic support and the backing of most Republicans, 11 GOP senators bucked their party, citing reasons including the cost of the spending and a lack of oversight into where that money might be spent, as well as broader concerns about US national interest.
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[FONT=&]"Cost," Sen. Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming said when Insider asked her why she planned to vote against the measure. "I do support Ukraine's efforts to protect their people and their country, and it's just so tragic what's happening. But inflation is running amok. We are not protecting our own borders."
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[FONT=&]"Ukrainians are amazing. We were slow to help them out of the gate," Sen. Mike Braun of Indiana told Insider. "But I'm going to always ask a question: How are we paying for it? And when I found out we're borrowing every penny of it, and we're not offsetting anything, that turned it into a no vote for me."
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[FONT=&]Republican Sen. Josh Hawley of Missouri said that the money spent defending Ukraine from Russia's invasion would be better spent at home, telling Fox News that the bill was an extension of the "unfocused globalism that unfortunately many in my party have embraced in the last couple of decades."

He

https://twitter.com/x/status/1526323885515448321

that his opposition to the aid package was "not isolationism" but "nationalism."[/FONT]

https://www.businessinsider.com/11-republican-senators-vote-against-40-billion-aid-ukraine-2022-5

All 11 of them should be officially declared enemies of the State at being friends of foreign enemies, and on the taxpayer dime.

 

[dukkha]

 

[Walt]

Their hypersonic in Ukraine is unmatched by any NATO weapon

Hypersonic missiles are still experimental. Maybe one day, they will be something. What makes you think they are doing great right now? Have they led to any great victories for the Russians?

Meanwhile, the Ukrainians have knocked out several Russian capital ships, using anti-ship missiles, and denied Ukrainian air space to Russian planes using anti-aircraft missiles. Using drones and missiles, they have devastated Russian tanks. I can point to actual successes, not just feeling good about Russian missiles.

The simple fact is that Russia is not impressing anyone right now.

 

[dukkha]

Hypersonic missiles are still experimental. Maybe one day, they will be something. What makes you think they are doing great right now? Have they led to any great victories for the Russians?

Meanwhile, the Ukrainians have knocked out several Russian capital ships, using anti-ship missiles, and denied Ukrainian air space to Russian planes using anti-aircraft missiles. Using drones and missiles, they have devastated Russian tanks. I can point to actual successes, not just feeling good about Russian missiles.

The simple fact is that Russia is not impressing anyone right now.

It's not just hypersonics, but they are being used longrange like to hit Lviv and Odesa and munitions
Russian missiles are their most effective airstrikes because their jets can get taken down by American SAM

https://www.wionews.com/photos/mult...kalibr-cruise-missiles-against-ukraine-467122

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...-live-updates-missiles-strike-odesa-rcna28057

 

[PostmodernProphet]

just think.....if Biden hadn't left $80B in military supplies in Afghanistan he could have just shipped it to Ukraine........

 

[Walt]

just think.....if Biden hadn't left $80B in military supplies in Afghanistan he could have just shipped it to Ukraine........

A lot of that were buildings, run ways, and other things that cannot be moved to Ukraine. It would be like trying to move Fort Bliss to Ukraine. Others of it was given to the Afghans by the previous president, so would require a lot of fighting to try to take back. It may have cost more to get it back than it was worth.