Multiple people shot at grocery store in upstate New York, police say one suspect tak

Taichiliberal said:
I believe the armed security guard at the supermarket was killed by the perpetrator.
Legislating against crazy is virtually impossible. The best we can do is bring back the 1994 AWB and pass a universal gun registration data bank that ALL states and gun sales must abide by. This would put a crimp in "iron pipelines" and multiple purchases by the friends of criminals.
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Soooo.....just ban things and not give a shit about the 25,000+ suicides each year that don't involve "gun violence"? I disagree.

Better mental health screening and treatment is the best solution, not turning America into a prison society...for the good of the children.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Soooo.....just ban things and not give a shit about the 25,000+ suicides each year that don't involve "gun violence"? I disagree.

Better mental health screening and treatment is the best solution, not turning America into a prison society...for the good of the children.
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You're putting words in my mouth, especially since I ALSO advocated national gun registry across the board. Just because I didn't say, "let's put more $$ and improvement in our mental health institutions" means that I'm against it or dismiss it.

Remember when the guy who shot up the Virginia Tech school? He already was on the docket for previous mental health issues, yet the lag time from the hospital or doctor's office to the background check done by the gun seller fell through the cracks. And of course, you know how the gunners and the gunner lobby just hate a universal background check linked to a mental health data base (privacy issues - like they give a damn when it comes to abortion - but I digress).

I say all three suggestions are the best way to curtail this tragic syndrome in our nation. I don't think you'll disagree on that.
 
volsrock said:
And a socialist from Biden country
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He stated he was a socialists? Proof please or is this another bit of mental flatulence from our resident David Duke wanna be?

Also, are Trump voters from Blue states not to your liking?

The reading audience awaits your response.
 
ExpressLane said:
Someone should have shot back at him. I sure would have. Always be prepared.
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When everyday citizens feel they need to be armed going to the grocery store this will be one unhappy society, and on the brink of anarchy when there will stop being grocery stores.
 
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How about a national ' Domestic Terrorism Day ' instead of spreading all these gun-related massacres over the year ?
 
Taichiliberal said:
You're putting words in my mouth, especially since I ALSO advocated national gun registry across the board. Just because I didn't say, "let's put more $$ and improvement in our mental health institutions" means that I'm against it or dismiss it.

Remember when the guy who shot up the Virginia Tech school? He already was on the docket for previous mental health issues, yet the lag time from the hospital or doctor's office to the background check done by the gun seller fell through the cracks. And of course, you know how the gunners and the gunner lobby just hate a universal background check linked to a mental health data base (privacy issues - like they give a damn when it comes to abortion - but I digress).

I say all three suggestions are the best way to curtail this tragic syndrome in our nation. I don't think you'll disagree on that.
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Disagreed; you were quoting the standard Democrat mantra on gun-control and I was reiterating the standard result of the Democratic agenda.

All of the mass shooters of note were known to be wackadoodles: Jared Loughner, James Holmes, Adam Lanzo, Nikolas Cruz and James Hodgkinson to name a few. Now add Payton Gendron to that list.

IIRC, a "mass shooting" is three or more people shot with a BB gun or larger so gang-bangers are included in the numbers, but it's shootings like this that cause a public outcry and which the Democrats use to push their gun control agenda. Why is banning guns their FIRST plan and not better mental health care?

Why are nutjobs like those listed above allowed to have firearms? Why were they not treated before they committed mass murder and ruined their own lives?
 
martin said:
When everyday citizens feel they need to be armed going to the grocery store this will be one unhappy society, and on the brink of anarchy when there will stop being grocery stores.
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Agreed about unhappy society. Disagreed about "brink of anarchy".

A major part of the problem is how media and social media is fomenting unbridled hatred. Tucker Carlson blabbing about Replacement Theory several nights a week and forums where people discuss tactics for killing minorities and supporting those who do so are part of the problem.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc...n-s-biggest-racist-conspiracy-theory-n1295212
Tucker Carlson is the No. 1 champion of this leading far-right conspiracy
How Tucker Carlson revived and supercharged the white supremacist “great replacement” conspiracy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ublicans-agree-with-great-replacement-theory/
Nearly half of Republicans agree with ‘great replacement theory’
It was about a year ago when Fox News’s Tucker Carlson first eagerly ripped off the mask.

“I know that the left and all the little gatekeepers on Twitter become literally hysterical if you use the term ‘replacement,’ if you suggest for the Democratic Party is trying to replace the current electorate, the voters now casting ballots, with new people, more obedient voters from the Third World,” he said in April 2021. “But they become hysterical because that’s what’s happening, actually.”

This was an explicit evocation of a line of argument, once confined to the right-wing, white nationalist fringe, called “great replacement theory.” The idea, as Carlson makes clear, is not simply that immigration to the United States could reshape American politics but that some cadre of elites is intentionally encouraging that to happen. That there was a sinister plan to literally “replace” native-born Americans with immigrants.

Despite Carlson’s characteristic insistence about his own honesty, this is not what is happening. But the idea soon spread on the political right, first from one member of Congress — Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.), one of Donald Trump’s allies in his bid to overturn the 2020 election — and then to Republicans more broadly. The idea that there was a plan to swap out native-born Americans with immigrants became increasingly taken for granted on the right.
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Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed about unhappy society. Disagreed about "brink of anarchy".

A major part of the problem is how media and social media is fomenting unbridled hatred. Tucker Carlson blabbing about Replacement Theory several nights a week and forums where people discuss tactics for killing minorities and supporting those who do so are part of the problem.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc...n-s-biggest-racist-conspiracy-theory-n1295212
Tucker Carlson is the No. 1 champion of this leading far-right conspiracy
How Tucker Carlson revived and supercharged the white supremacist “great replacement” conspiracy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ublicans-agree-with-great-replacement-theory/
Nearly half of Republicans agree with ‘great replacement theory’
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you're fomenting the hatred, fucko lie-bag.

tucker doesn't talk about replacement theory. ive never heard of replacement theory except from retarded liars like you.
 
AssHatZombie said:
you're fomenting the hatred, fucko lie-bag.

tucker doesn't talk about replacement theory. ive never heard of replacement theory except from retarded liars like you.
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Enjoy your FBI interview, Fredo. I'll be happy to entertain them any time. :thup:

The links prove you wrong. Here's more:
OCTOBER 7, 2021
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/tucker-carlson-fox-racism/
Tucker Carlson’s Nightly Toxicity Is Poisoning His Brain
His latest racist rant about the “Great Replacement theory” was particularly unhinged.

Oct 22, 2021
https://www.insider.com/tucker-carlson-replacement-theory-david-duke-kkk-trump-2021-10
A former leader of the KKK celebrated Tucker Carlson 'finally' sharing the white-supremacist 'great replacement' conspiracy theory

11/11/21
https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-r...the-latest-catchphrase-in-the-racist-lexicon/
‘Legacy American’ is the latest catchphrase in the racist lexicon
Now Tucker Carlson has added a new term to the coded racism lexicon: “Legacy Americans.” In a September broadcast, Carlson accused President Biden of encouraging immigration of non-Europeans to dilute the voting power of Euro-Americans.

“In political terms,” he asserted, “this policy is called ‘the great replacement,’ the replacement of legacy Americans with more obedient people from far-away countries.” “The Great Replacement,” is a white supremacist conspiracy theory that dark-skinned, non-European people are replacing those of European descent. Neo-Nazis expressed a version of this theory when they chanted “Jews will not replace us” during their tiki torch parade at the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Va. The man who murdered 51 Muslims in Christ Church, New Zealand and the one, who killed 21 in an El Paso, Texas Walmart also subscribed to replacement theory.

While replacement theory is decades old, “legacy Americans” is a relatively new term. Carlson did not define it, but his meaning seems clear from the context. He is referring to white Americans whose ancestors have lived in the country for a long time, the people he and his followers consider “real Americans.”
 
archives said:
Yep, just what we need is more guns out there, this is what happens when any dimwit or idiot with a beef has easy access to the gun of his choice

As I noted earlier, getting so that any interaction with anybody anywhere is dangerous given there is a good chance the other individual is packing
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You don’t get to decide whether we need more or less guns out there, Anchovies.

The Second Amendment has already decided that issue and “DC vs, Heller” codified it.

The far left Democrats own violence in America with their riots, looting, burning, assaults and murders.

Poor Anchovies.
 
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Dutch Uncle said:
Enjoy your FBI interview, Fredo. I'll be happy to entertain them any time. :thup:

The links prove you wrong. Here's more:
OCTOBER 7, 2021
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/tucker-carlson-fox-racism/
Tucker Carlson’s Nightly Toxicity Is Poisoning His Brain
His latest racist rant about the “Great Replacement theory” was particularly unhinged.

Oct 22, 2021
https://www.insider.com/tucker-carlson-replacement-theory-david-duke-kkk-trump-2021-10
A former leader of the KKK celebrated Tucker Carlson 'finally' sharing the white-supremacist 'great replacement' conspiracy theory

11/11/21
https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-r...the-latest-catchphrase-in-the-racist-lexicon/
‘Legacy American’ is the latest catchphrase in the racist lexicon
Now Tucker Carlson has added a new term to the coded racism lexicon: “Legacy Americans.” In a September broadcast, Carlson accused President Biden of encouraging immigration of non-Europeans to dilute the voting power of Euro-Americans.

“In political terms,” he asserted, “this policy is called ‘the great replacement,’ the replacement of legacy Americans with more obedient people from far-away countries.” “The Great Replacement,” is a white supremacist conspiracy theory that dark-skinned, non-European people are replacing those of European descent. Neo-Nazis expressed a version of this theory when they chanted “Jews will not replace us” during their tiki torch parade at the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Va. The man who murdered 51 Muslims in Christ Church, New Zealand and the one, who killed 21 in an El Paso, Texas Walmart also subscribed to replacement theory.

While replacement theory is decades old, “legacy Americans” is a relatively new term. Carlson did not define it, but his meaning seems clear from the context. He is referring to white Americans whose ancestors have lived in the country for a long time, the people he and his followers consider “real Americans.”
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this is all propaganda.

rampant immigration harms americans of all backgrounds.

but of course, you can't stop lying. and you just ate a million cocks for breakfast.
 
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martin said:
When everyday citizens feel they need to be armed going to the grocery store this will be one unhappy society, and on the brink of anarchy when there will stop being grocery stores.
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It’s one unhappy society now, Marty.

In Biden’s America, where crime is out of control in large American cities controlled by Democrats, one best be armed.
 
Earl said:
It’s one unhappy society now, Marty.

In Biden’s America, where crime is out of control in large American cities controlled by Democrats, one best be armed.
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Just like in Trump's America? Obama's America? Bush the Lesser's America? Agreed best to be armed. One never knows when they'll have cap a WSE in the head or in the nuts. LOL

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